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Ray
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The question was: "Does anyone know if the MXP 52.5 is out yet?".
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kindof99
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Do you need to boost it?
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Hans Regenkurt
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It depends on your level but after 3 sheets (plus a friend's) I believe it is not necessary.
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Hans Regenkurt
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I am using my third sheet and it is still very good. Still, I was curious to see how the 50-53 degree rubbers of some of the other brands work out. A teammate of mine has a Joola Rhyzer Pro 50, I have bought a Gewo Nexxus EL Pro Hard 53 and I also have a Gewo Nexxus XT 48 Hard. The Gewos are on a Gewo Robles blade. These new hard sponged rubbers have given me back faith that it is not necessary to use ALC / carbon blades. Up until now I was never quite satisfied with rubbers at 45-48 degrees on the ESN scale because I always felt they lacked the edge that Tenergy has. Not anymore. These rubbers can be played on a 5 ply wooden blade and they still have a lot of power. I wish they had marketed them years ago. So we did some testing on the above mentioned rubbers. I intend this review for those who are thinking about getting something other than MXP Hard. So compared to MXP Hard, here is my subjective ranking. 1. speed: Joola RP50>MXP Hard>Gewo XT Hard 48> Gewo Nexxus 53 2. clearance over the net(highest to lowest): Gewo Nexxus 53>Gewo XT Hard 48>Joola RP50 and MXPH are about the same but 3. stability at high speed loops: JRP50>Gewo XT Hard 48>MXPH>Gewo Nexxus Hard 53 At high impact the Joola wins out and I was pleasantly surprised at it. In comparison, the MXP Hard does not pick up every ball with the same consistency. I give Joola credit for the Rhyzer series, the 48 is good too. These rubbers are clearly different and it is good to have this kind of diversity after all these years. I would recommend all four of these to any all-out attacker.
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tom
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Hans, the XT 48 Hard you compared above - is it the same as the Nexxus XT Pro 48?
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tom
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Edited by tom - 07/28/2019 at 1:59pm |
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nv42
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Yep, these hard rubbers actually pair well with 5 ply woods, especially ones that have some decent flex. The nexxus 53 hard felt a bit blade dependent to me, it was really tough to control it easily during quick loop loop rallies on stiffer plies while it felt super easy on a flexy 5 ply (pg2 in my case). Also, the nexxus 48 series play/feel a bit softer than the givenhardness rating, they're quite dwelly too.
Also, how would you compare a t05H to all those?
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Hans Regenkurt
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Sorry, I got it mixed up. I have the plain XT 48, the so called "Hard" only comes in 50 deg. I am planning to try that one out to in the autumn.
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Hans Regenkurt
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I only had few hits with the T05H because a friend got him one dirt cheap. He no longer uses it so my memories are vague but generally speaking I do not see the T05H as being superior to the rubbers mentioned above.
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nv42
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The t05H is a bit better if you play closer to the table and mostly play the ball early or at the peak. The new esn rubbers are much easier to use than t05H at loop-loop rallies from mid-distance or far off, they have quite a lot of power from far basically. Also, the harder topsheet on the t05H does help a bit with serves and softer brushy strokes. And yeah, the t05H did take me a bit longer to get used to compared to the esn tensors, definitely more unforgiving, I guess I may change back to esn soon.
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Thot
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Which one has the most grip and with which one his the easiest to open against backspin?
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nv42
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The t05H and mxp50 topsheets should be the grippiest, but the new gen esn tensors are a bit easier to play against backspin Imo. They have less spin sensitive topsheets and have easier to engage sponges.
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1.dhs pg2 fl
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guni4you
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Hey Hans,
So you consider Joola Rhyzer Pro 50 a faster,spinner version of mxp50.I am currently using mxp50 and i am happy with it.Do you think if I change to joola will it be a even better option?
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Hans Regenkurt
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Hi guni4you, I think it is a bit faster but the throw is lower. If you are happy with the 50 degree MXP there is no point in changing as there will not be much of a difference in your matchplay efficiency.
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jackwong23
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After 2 weeks of play, I have found the Mxp 50 much less spinny than the normal MXP. Is that true ?
Seems like the mxp 50 losses its spin capability very quickly.
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guni4you
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Hi Hans,
Thanks for your reply. I boosted my brand new mxp50 with one layer of falco. It has been almost 3 weeks of using the rubber. The topsheet looks very old already but the rubber still grips the ball well. So rhyzer 50 has lower throw than mxp50?
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Hans Regenkurt
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It could be but it is because of the booster has degraded. As I mentioned earlier, I tried 3 sheets of MXP Hard, the first one was good, the second one was utterly bad right from the start and the third one was good and lasted longer than the first one (around 2 months if I recall correctly. Then I boosted it up and it as good for a month) Similarly for the plain version, the quality seems to change from sheet to sheet to some extent with some sheets becoming useless in 1-2 weeks. Not even boosting helps these in my experience. Edited by Hans Regenkurt - 10/13/2019 at 4:11am |
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Hans Regenkurt
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Yes, it is easier to hit the white of the net with the Rhyzer. If you boost an MXP its lifespan will be about 3 months so you are practically at 1/3 time.
Edited by Hans Regenkurt - 10/13/2019 at 4:15am |
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guni4you
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What about Gewo Nexxus el pro 53? Is it worth a try or is mxp 50 way better?
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Hans Regenkurt
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The big difference between the Gewo EL 53 (or 50) and MXP50 is that the Gewos do not have the same power from further than 1.5 meters off the table. I do not see a big difference between the EL 50 and EL 53 apart from the hardness. And most importantly, they will not offer you more than the MXP50. They are a bit easier to handle from close to the table. |
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guni4you
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Thanks a lot for your explanation Hans👍
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tom
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Edited by tom - 10/13/2019 at 12:56pm |
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guni4you
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Hi,
Is the durability of Joola Rhyzer Pro 50 better than mxp50?My topsheet of mxp50 is not at all grippy after just 3 weeks.
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Saitama
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How does rhyzer 50 compare to tenergy 05 hard?
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AMonteiro
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Spin T05H>RHY50 Speed RHY50>T05H Harndness T05H>RHY50 Throw angle T05H>RHY50
Control - on attack T05H>RHY50 - on blocks RHY50>T05H, because is less spin sensitive and lower throw. |
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guni4you
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If we lightly boost any of the brand new hard esn rubbers like Nexxus EL Pro 53,joola Rhyzer Pro 50 And mxp50 are there any benefits?
Or is there no use and we are rather deteriorating the characteristics of the rubber?Please advice.
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