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Is remote coaching legal ? |
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cole_ely
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Posted: 09/02/2020 at 6:46pm |
I wasn't the orignal poster of this question. I was the first to respond though, and then eventually the OP was deleted. So I'll try to rephrase the OP as well as I can remember. The OP was in a tournament where his opponent asked permission to video the match (we've all been there right?) But to the OP's dismay, his opponent was streaming the match to a coach somewhere and receiving coaching during the match, presumably by bluetooth headset. The OP took offense and asked the opponent to quit streaming, but his opponent said it was too late, he had already given permission and really didn't need it anyway. He said the tournament director didn't know how to handle the situation and declined to intervene. And this was my response: Well I mean obviously coaching is legal but if by earpiece you don't know if he's getting advice during the point. That's a really good question the more I think of it
Edited by cole_ely - 09/03/2020 at 4:16pm |
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cole_ely
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perhaps it might be appropriate to ask your opponent to only use the headset between games
Or actually to rephrase that it's probably something better addressed by the tournament director Edited by cole_ely - 09/02/2020 at 6:47pm |
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Only one coach is allowed and the coach must be identified before the match. It is now legal for the coach to yell out advice to the player when the ball is not in play as long as the coach and player are not slowing down the progress of the game. (I have also heard such advice/instructions must be in a language that both players can understand; although I have not able to verify this).
Since the coach is not at the game, I would say such "coaching" is not legal. The rules should be amended to ban players from wearing earpieces and headphones.
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tuco
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interesting.... i think the OP just deleted his posts
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Maybe a mod identified the OP as a person not welcome here after multiple bans. I thought the question was interesting though but if it is who I think it is, they never lack intelligence for sure.
When any given poster's posts get all deleted at once with the push of a "ban" button, the answers stay behind which is less that ideal, I'll ask the mods about the opportunity of a process to identify 1st all threads the banned person started (there is a search check box for that). In those situations there are not many enough to be much work. More to come.
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cole_ely
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somebody at a pc should repeat the question
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Thd question is clear enough. Let the thread continue.
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cole_ely
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im on a phone at church :(
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well...when they say "think less of yourself and more about other people", think of us here at mytt and just do it . I am happy I could once support and encourage your spirituality.
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I would say no: 3.5.1 Advice 3.5.1.1 In a team event, players may receive advice from anyone authorised to be at the playing area. 3.5.1.2 In an individual event, a player or pair may receive advice only from one person, designated beforehand to the umpire, except that where the players of a doubles pair are from different Associations each may designate an adviser,but with regard to 3.5.1 and 3.5.2 these two advisors shall be treated as a unit; if an unauthorised person gives advice the umpire shall hold up a red card and send him or her away from the playing area. Issues: Can't verify who is on the headset. Can't verify it's only one person (presuming a singles match and not teams).
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