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viva
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Posted: 07/05/2022 at 11:38pm |
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Interested to know how many layers of glue to the blade and how many to rubbers when you glue a new rubber?
Saw a revolution no 3 video and he did 3 layers to rubber and 2 to the blade. Is that the standard amount of glue everyone is using?
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At least 1 on blade and 2 on rubber. Additional layers depend on the glue. More for runny glue, less for viscous glue. Butterfly ran an experiment several years ago and concluded more glue could be detrimental to bounce.
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I only ever put a single layer on both the rubber and the blade, perhaps my layers are thicker than yours.
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vanjr
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Single layer on both with water based glues and with rubber cement for a new set up. Rarely if I am regluing a previously glued rubber to a new paddle I may just do one layer on the new paddle is the rubber is tacky to touch-or do a very light refresher if not.
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with light water based glue, 2 for rubber, 1 for blade. for my own, 3 layers of booster (for my fh, 1 layer for my bh), with 2 layers of glue on rubber, and 2 layers of glue on blade.
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viva
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Does the whole layer come off in 1 go from the sponge?
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Ever do more than those amounts likr rev no 3 gluing video? Just wondering benefits if any
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Does rubber cement negatively affect the rubber any? How easy is it to remove?
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More than 1 layer for booster? Do you find more than 1 layer makes it easier to remove? Does the extra glue help with more elasticity? |
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For thinner glue, two on the rubber, one on the blade. Thin layers as well. The sponge will absorb a bit of the first layer and you won't have full coverage, hence two layers.
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Yes, yes, yes
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kakapo
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I use 1 layer of revolution 3 on the rubber, then, after drying, i layer of finezip on the rubber and 1 (big) on the blade.
If it is a boosted rubber, 3 layers on the rubber
Edited by kakapo - 07/07/2022 at 7:50am |
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A mild boosting effect, especially for the first session or two. Much easier to remove and do anything with over water based glue. Technically illegal-but after a week or two it essentially plays the same as water based glues. Much cheaper and easy to find.
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Only downsides I have found is that it clumps a little more and doesn't spread as easily (still it's not hard to apply an even layer). Also wouldn't recommend using it without edge tape, the rubber can get loose when hitting the table as it doesn't stick as well as wbg. Both things might just be because of the brand I used though.
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viva
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Any particular advantage to using 2 different glues?
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Finezip is better but more expensive and the 1st layer is not the most important. As I glue many blades an very often, also for other players and testers, I can save a few hundreds dollars a year
Edited by kakapo - 07/08/2022 at 3:22am |
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I do this .... and I also tried Rev 3 in two different viscosities.. The thinnest one I do 3-4 layers on the rubber and 2 on the blade. For a medium one I do 2-3 layers on the rubber and 2 on the blade. p.s. I am a former Finezip fan but find Revolution 3 to be a good replacement and easier to deal with and remove.
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+1 to this. I am using the thicker medium viscocity Revolution no 3 right now and I have noticed that 3 layers on the sponge and 2 on the blade works the best in terms of the overall feeling of the rubber and also ensuring that the rubbers are glued to the blades well.
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viva
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Does doing so make the glue come off the rubber and blade in one or two big chunks?
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Yes. You need at least 3-4 evenly applied layers of glue on the sponge for it to be easy to come out in one or few chunks. I end up using about a quarter sized drop of glue for each layer on a fresh rubber. I have lately been building up 3-4 layers on the sponge and 2 on the blade and the glue is coming off like a charm.
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That sounds promising I will try this next time I order revolution 3 glue. Thank you.
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