Increasing arm speed

What kind of training is best for increasing arm speed? When watching Wang Liqin and Timo Boll, it's amazing how fast their arms can move in a forehand loop. What kind of training is best for this?

Muscle training, doing many reps of light weights?
Maybe doing lots of loop strokes with a heavy racket, or a weight?

Armspeed is a combination of maximum arm strength training and natural ability. This means that you can only increase your armspeed to a certain genetically predetermined maximum. It's the same with boxing and 100m dash. Joe average can train as much as he likes to but he'll never run the 100m below 10 seconds or ever have a KO punch like Mike Tyson.

The best way to train your armspeed in TT is by simply playing TT and going for maximum arm speed. One of the best ways to do this is playing against good defenders with a very heavy chop or relooping topspin rallies. Much of this is technique though. It's not only the arm, it's waist and legs in the first place.

I'm struggling with this problem also. In my understanding the power is generated from arm, forearm (there is dispute on this between chineese coaches and other country coaches), waist and how fast you hit. I do loop, but I can effectively use the whole system only one out of 4 strokes - I have seen those loops have tremendous power. Practice, Practice and Practice. Don't take too much weight, play more and train your muscles.

varghesep wrote: I'm struggling with this problem also. In my understanding the power is generated from arm, forearm (there is dispute on this between chineese coaches and other country coaches), waist and how fast you hit. I do loop, but I can effectively use the whole system only one out of 4 strokes - I have seen those loops have tremendous power. Practice, Practice and Practice. Don't take too much weight, play more and train your muscles.

Yeah I've noticed that Wang Liqin's loop stroke seems to not use any forearm motion; it's pretty much purely the whole arm (shoulder pivot) and torso.

Watching the "BIGPOINTS2006 (part1)" video in this thread, I see that:
- Wang Liqin uses no forearm swing at all
- Timo Boll uses a little bit of forearm, starting with an open angle of 100-degrees, and ending at about 80-degrees
- Gao Ning and Oh Sang Eun use more forearm, starting with an open angle of about 160-degrees, and ending at about 90-degrees

To clarify, a straight arm has an open angle of 180-degrees, and a right-angle (forearm is perpendicular to bicep/tricep) is 90-degrees.

In the last point of that video (Wang Liqin vs. Wang Hao), you'll see how blisteringly fast Wang Liqin's arm moves. That's the clip that really got me thinking. And if he decided to incorporate even 60-degrees of forearm swing, I figure he could add even more noticeable power, unless my understanding of the mechanics is incorrect.

The reason Wang Liqin doesn't need a forearm snap is because he swings into the ball so that his bodyweight is behind it, much more reliable way of getting power. Wang Hao and all the new generation of Chinese players do it as well.

it depends mostly on ur balance and how well u r watching the ball.if u can balance urselve from the start till the end of a shot u will see ur arm speed is much better and the rithm will be good also.look at kong for both.wang tao also very good.also u can watch inside out shots of a jpen player to see the balance through out the shot

get yourself a weighted training blade. they are around $30 .they are around 500 grams .I use one just practice your natural swing in front of a mirror for 30 minutes a day.

All of you are correct.
Quick arm snap is one style.

The whole idea is to transfer the whole body power into the ball at the right timing. It is similar to a golf swing or a tennis swing with a minor difference.

need to find the perfect timing. it is not easy task.

All the people with short arm uses alot of underarm, and wrist(at least Timo Boll). But not people like Zoran Primorac.