double spin service?

Hi guys

Just a small query here. Is there such a think as a double spin serve? I once played with a senior coach and he was able to curl his service such that if I faced it with an open bat, it would both go out and wide.

according to him, not only must you drag the bat sideways for the sidespin, you also have to pull the blade upwards at the end of the stroke to add topspin to the ball.

so is it possible to add to different spinning directions to one single ball? it would be cool if there was such a thing

is it good 2 use? i never see (or notice) world class players using such services

I never knew that. i always thought the pros never ever did topspin service because it is the easiest to smash, no matter how fast it is it can always be returned even more quickly. does the sidespin help nullify the problem? and does this service mean the ball is spinning diagonally?

i usually flip whatever service i get whether low chop or fast topspin

so a top sidespin service forces a lose ball cos the opponent doeznt know whether his return is going to fly up or down or to the side?

sidespin makes a ball more predicatable to where it is going to be returned to. If you put right sidespin, it will most likely be returned to the right. Also sidespin keeps the ball low. 

How else do you think 3rd ball attacks happen?

Side top disguised will result in a pop up. 

forehandloop wrote: how is it possible to disguise backspin and topspin? one involves brushing the top, the other is sliding through the bottom. is there such a thing is a side-backspin serve too?

There is a such thing as side/backspin service. I use it backhand when playing a rare doubles game. I'd say it is one of my more deceptive serves. I vary the amounts of spin put on either the side or bottom, all while using the same motion and normally get atleast two points from the opponent hitting wide right or into the net.

I have yet to master the top side spin to look similar in motion. 

i think most people's serves no matter top or back spin, all have tiny amount of side spin, if you want to do side top and side back intentionally with disguise, the beginning motion should be side back, then at the end have a follow through motion using flick of wrist with pulling up motion.  the motion should be the same for both top or back spins, what actually determines the spin is the moment when you decide to contact the ball during the motion.

man if you can flick most of their serves, you haven't really experienced heavy backspin serves.

yes, of cos they are forehand serve... you can try them on your sister and forehandsmash, This type of serve very hard fo forehandsmash to attack you...

There is a backhand version also. I like to make mine curve the same direction as my forehand tomahawk. I toss the ball up, bring my blade up near my left shoulder(right handed), brush the right side of the ball and follow through as if I put only backspin on it.

The backhand tomahawk version is possible, but is an extremely awkward swing. I gave up after a couple days of trying, cause I could not get any consistency what so ever.

forehandloop, I notice you make 300 posting and still a Super user, I made 100 posting also Super user. I think I dont want to post anymore, I post another 200 posting also still Super user.