playing against seemiller grip

Hookshot wrote: Hi Fatt,      You are just a real nice guy!

A guy playing with the Seemiller grip in my club (2000/2100) has anti on one side and twiddles really fast. He can really mess with people rythm. He can serve, hit, block with both sides and even does fake funny loops gestures with the anti. He's such a pain but he makes me think a lot and when I beat him (once out of 5 matches I'd say) it means that I have been patient, did not rush to finish points.

As somebody pointed out above my best results is when I can enter a fast all round kind of rally so he plays only with his regular smooth spiny and so is much more predictable.

seemiller grip works well for a blocking and hitting game, the chops and pushes tend to be quite weak.  try the push and set up for a finishing shot.  it's a bit tricky to finish a return from an antispin. 

i think a dead ball serve would be perfect. A very short serve is very hard to return and all he could do is push. Then you can attack off of the third ball push and put him on the defensive.


Why don't you post a video of your serve so we can help you out with it.

hi fatt

sandro wrote: What the hell is a seemiller grip?

Oohh.. i know that kind of grip.. there is a player with a similar grip over here. I dunno bout your player, but the one we have here really struggles against good lobber that can varies their lob with side/top.
So how good is your lob beeray1? 

Lobs?   Lobs?  Somebody say Lobs??  Yum, Yum!!!

Hookshot wrote: Lobs?   Lobs?  Somebody say Lobs??  Yum, Yum!!!

Deep lob with heavy side spin. The ball will nastily bend after bounce. It works here, dunno if it works there..

so you think a good seemiller grip player is blind and would not see the backspin on the deep lob or what, unless this is a particular weakness to the player involved. this is not general, you have to out play him period.

BR, everyone has said some decent tips to help, but you will have to discover for yourself what allows you to setup your offense, and what keeps him from putting you off balance. Putting the ball short and to the middle gives him the maximum amount of angle, and putting it short to one side really opens up the wide angle on the return. You do these if the opponent won't react in time, which it sounds like he does and would be way over 1400. You will eventually discover what it takes to get a predictable ball back that you can attack if you are an all out attacker. If you are the type who wants to be the one in control, you will have to find what it takes to get the chance at a higher percentage chance to finish the point. Learning to serve good half long and disguised short serves will still help you a lot, although it takes a lot of asking/learning/practice, it helps your game out against anyone. 

well thanks again everyone.. great advice. I'll just explore some more, and do what i can using some of these tips.

come on, that kind of talk is unnecessary. No need to argue with eachother, lets all just be cool about things here . Think about it, this mini-qualm is over a misunderstanding----- a stupid reason to make the mods want to involve themselves. am i right? You both offer great advice, and this should just stop before it becomes yet another fight.