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brytaku25
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Posted: 01/05/2009 at 7:50am |
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I already know how to do these strokes properly:
I usually drive or smash the ball if it's hittable , I push the ball when I can't drive or smash it, I block my opponents power shots. I can already combine these strokes both FH & BH but usually FH with my footwork. Everything seems fine. So I'm probably a Hitter. Now the problem is what do I do now? Also Sriver seems to be more faster than Mark V but less spinier. Driving with Sriver was excellent. Mark V was slower but seem to produce spinny shots. So I'm guessing that Sriver is for driving and Mark V is for looping. I don't really like spinny shots but there's an exception on pushes and serving. What now? Schedule: Mondays to Thursday 2 Hours
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I think I play a similar style to you. First thing you should do is getting rid of the Primorac Off-. I was actually using a similar combo a couple of years back. Primorac with Srivers both sides and I played my worst season ever. You should get something a little stiffer something like grubba carbon all+, waldner senso carbon, persson powerplay v2 or any medium stiff allwood or soft carbon blade. For Rubber I would recommend something hard with a (very) grippy topsheet. Boost TP 2.0-1.8, Tenergy 25 1.7-1.9, or Sriver G3 1.7-1.9 are excellent examples. Keep on mind these combo's are much faster and more direct than your current setup. You will notice your hitting and blocking will improve immediately, but the control might be a little sacrisfied. Actually Hammond is the best inverted rubber for flat hitting and blocking, but it's uniquely non-spinny. So serves and pushes are not as spinny as with the above mentioned. But why need spinny serves if you like to smash.
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brytaku25
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I have one question that is something out of topic. What are tensors? Do they have VOCs? I'll figure what equipment I'll use when I got the money. In the mean time I'll stick with Sriver twiddling.
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Skyline
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the main thing you should do is getting rid of that Primorac blade, it's a pure loopers blade. For Butterfly I would look into the Schlager Precision it,s similar to primorac but the feel is quite a bit harder and it's much more stable.
Tensors are built in speed glue effect rubber from the German ESN factory.
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brytaku25
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Are tensors like Butterfly's High Tune?
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johnny89atc
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Bty High tune is illegal, tensors are not (at least so far). |
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Leshxa
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I am a little confused because you're asking what to do next, but everyone suggests a different blade.... Hmm, I don't think you wanted equipment review, so I'll skip this charade.
I think once you know how to smash and counterdrive ( I presume it is not a looping drive, but more of a blocking straight drive ), I would try to learn to spin the ball. I know you really don't like it, but if you want to advance, you'll need to learn this stroke. My coach says this all the time. If you avoid learning and only learn what you like, you'll have to come back to it anyways, but you will loose lots of time learning the hard way that you should have acquired that skill years earlier. Stubbornness is counterproductive. I am not implying on changing your style if it works for you, but you should know how to deal with different opponents once they give you spin shots. Can't just drive everything right back. I don't know what is your rating, but I would suggest to focus on these 3 things if you believe that you've mastered those strokes: 1. Serves - 2. 3rd ball attack ( or in your case 3rd ball kill or flush :) ) 3. Service return These will advance you farther. Learn how to serve and get your opponent to give you something that you can kill or drive. In addition, I would continue working on blocking shots. Work with somebody who can give you a great loop, so you can learn to block stronger spin. As far as equipment change, keep one thing in mind. If you go to a faster blade to hit faster, then you'll loose touch on your pushes and blocks!!! So make sure its a compromise you are willing to make. |
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If you don't like executing spinny shots and prefer hitting maybe consider short pips? I don't know but you could always whack a piece on a see how you play with it ;)
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Short Pimples.... wait are the long pimples evil or the short pimples?
Also I don't avoid anything. I can learn as long as I want to learn. Can someone explain Tensors further? |
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Everyone missed this?!
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coach plays sp on fh, every time he blocks, the ball comes back as a knuck ball with a little backspin, its hard to keep consistent and hit those back against blocked sp.
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One question. Does short pimps break?
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theman
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they break like any other pimples, my coach recently was whacking the ball extremely hard and the pips broke within days of his purchase
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my friend play with it(short pimples). superb deffensive player..
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brytaku25
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Okay I switched back to Sriver. I figured I need to try something first
before I say something. But when I improve, what do you think of Timo
Boll Spirit with Srivers?
Off-Topic: I'm too lazy to post another thread but... Is it safe to glue (not speed glue) rubbers to blades in a non ventilated area? What are some rooms in the house that are ventilated? I heard every rubber has VOC on them and must be properly aired for at least 48 hours? Please correct me if I'm wrong. |
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If its non-voc-glue your fine, rubbers prety much just smell bad. The most ventilated room where I live is the balcony, lol.
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What about the rubbers, do they have VOC that needs to be removed by air?
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What does that mean?
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dont think ahead too much, be solid with your game first. if you think too much of sriver this, schlager that, you wont be thinking about your own techniques and goals, but be more distracted wih equipment, a big no no in my eyes.
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Pay no attention to him what he is doing is called spam, i'm going to ask this guy to coach me, problem is he works for OC transpo (Ottawa transit) and the F***ers are stricking right now and leaving the city in chaos |
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Spam? I remember this guy who posted something. I think he deleted it.
" I'm a TT beast" or something like that. |
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I'm thinking of replacing my BH with Sriver EL. The reason is that Sriver is a little bit hard for me. My BH shots lack control. Is it recommended? So my current setup when the rubber arrives is
FH: Sriver 2.1 mm BH: Sriver EL 1.9 mm Blade: Primorac |
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If your BH lacks control using Primorac and Sriver it is purely because of your technique.
Keep the gear (Sriver EL 1.9 BH is fine) Focus on the technique |
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brytaku25
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I'm sure my technique isn't the one because I trained my BH for a whole week. When I saw Sriver EL, I think it was calling me to be in my backhand. Same for Sriver. I don't know why but it just happens.
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My coach says that I play like Kong Linghui. After both of us watching a few videos, I agreed LOL
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