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hmm good to know! i also heard that if the server stomp its too loud the reciever can complain, is that true?
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It's bit of physics here but I may be wrong. Stomping stops the arm from swinging further and accelerates the blade swing thereby creating a higher blade speed for the serve.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/30/2012 at 11:05pm
For some people the "stomp" of the left foot (for a right-handed player) is not intentional or designed to hide sound, it is a natural motion to maintain balance and get into position to attack after a serve. Otherwise the movement of the arm holding the blade can throw you a bit off balance. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pnachtwey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/30/2012 at 11:43pm
I don't see the need for the foot stomp.
It is inefficient.

Amelie Solja stomps on just about every BH push.  In her case I think it is a rhythm and consistency thing. Sometimes she sounds like a machine.
  
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Its clear stomping is not nessasary, otherwise a long topspin rally would leave you with hearing loss! The real question is what rules does this fall under? Are there limits? I know the service rules cause most people use illegal serves often, but don't remember anything in the service rules outside of handling the ball.
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Originally posted by loop+loop loop+loop wrote:

It's bit of physics here but I may be wrong. Stomping stops the arm from swinging further and accelerates the blade swing thereby creating a higher blade speed for the serve.

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when the foot contacts the floor, then the racket can no longer follow the ball unless the torso is rotated by hip/waist turn. As the stroke decelerates the non playing shoulder will dip to the side, and then recovery should begin.
If you run through this sequence you start to see why the main impetus of the stroke should be from the coiled spring of the back leg. Players that try to generate power by twisting the torso alone are on the wrong track: The fundamental reason the torso twists is that the front foot has applied the brake to the forward motion!

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again the foot stomp should really originate from the back foot power source, rather than stamping DOWN on the floor, otherwise its a less natural part of the stroke.


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Another thing to consider . . . stomping puts additional pressure on the joints, especially the ankle and knee. These areas are already under great stress from playing our sport. Regardless of the argument in favor . . . it's just silly to stomp unless you are already in the habit and have the inability or unwillingness to change your evil ways. :-). Tzai has outspokenly spoken. No offense intended . . . just pure humor and a pinch of realism! Weeooo!
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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:



    AN ESSENTIAL NOTE:
The serving player may stomp as much as he is pleased, and the receiver may NOT.
In the present video, the "stomper" was penalized upon the request expressed by the serving player.
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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:



    AN ESSENTIAL NOTE:
The serving player may stomp as much as he is pleased, and the receiver may NOT.
In the present video, the "stomper" was penalized upon the request expressed by the serving player.


It seems the receiver merely "bounced" right before the service return -- most pros do that. Yet it made a pretty loud sound. I guess there was a microphone near the table?
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What about shoe squeaking from the receiver? Many players actually take a step or two before the server strikes the ball; some even do a split step.
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Originally posted by racquetsforsale racquetsforsale wrote:

What about shoe squeaking from the receiver? Many players actually take a step or two before the server strikes the ball; some even do a split step.


Probably can be annoying for the server, sometimes used to distract I'm certain, but it seems a more legitimate thing than the booming service foot stomp.  It's like the waggle in golf the that precedes the swing or the ball bouncing in table tennis or tennis before the serve, something to act as a transition into the athletic motion, to get your muscles jump-started and get a flow of blood working into them.
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Stomping by a server is used as a distraction - therefore I see stomping as a receiver to be fair play as well.



Edited by roar - 01/31/2012 at 1:26pm
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Originally posted by roar roar wrote:

Stomping by a server is used as a distraction - therefore I see stomping as a receiver to be fair play as well.



When the server stomps, the receiver is not making a stroke. That's why it's legal. The receiver cannot stomp when the server is making a stroke to serve.
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Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by roar roar wrote:

Stomping by a server is used as a distraction - therefore I see stomping as a receiver to be fair play as well.



When the server stomps, the receiver is not making a stroke. That's why it's legal. The receiver cannot stomp when the server is making a stroke to serve.

Care to point out where in the rules this is at?

When the receiver stomps, he's preparing himself to receive a serve - that's why it's legal for him too.
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Originally posted by roar roar wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by roar roar wrote:

Stomping by a server is used as a distraction - therefore I see stomping as a receiver to be fair play as well.



When the server stomps, the receiver is not making a stroke. That's why it's legal. The receiver cannot stomp when the server is making a stroke to serve.

Care to point out where in the rules this is at?

When the receiver stomps, he's preparing himself to receive a serve - that's why it's legal for him too.


I'm sure there's a rule that says you can't distract people when they're making a stroke. That's why the server can stomp, because he's the one who's making a stroke, not the receiver.
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Why bother distracting with noises . . . distract them with your amazing skill.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/31/2012 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by roar roar wrote:

Originally posted by ZingyDNA ZingyDNA wrote:

Originally posted by roar roar wrote:

Stomping by a server is used as a distraction - therefore I see stomping as a receiver to be fair play as well.



When the server stomps, the receiver is not making a stroke. That's why it's legal. The receiver cannot stomp when the server is making a stroke to serve.

Care to point out where in the rules this is at?

When the receiver stomps, he's preparing himself to receive a serve - that's why it's legal for him too.


I'm sure there's a rule that says you can't distract people when they're making a stroke. That's why the server can stomp, because he's the one who's making a stroke, not the receiver.

I suspect if there is any rule on such matters, it would apply to any method of distracting the opponent - and I do not see such a rule.

The other possibility might be a rule indicating that a stomp may be allowed if a person is physically stressed in making a shot.  Since a serve is an entirely controlled shot, a stomp would not be necessary and thus disallowed if they are only allowed during certain times.
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Don't do it. Stomping and Yelling is just poor sportsmanship and not needed. Be classic and win with your skills, not your scams. 

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