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ccg7400 
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 Topic: vclara99 and fake tenergyPosted: 07/03/2012 at 7:34am |
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I trade with VCLARA99 my new ADIDAS TENZONE for FAKE TENERGY 25,
No, I exchange my TB ALC for T25 & T64 with a player at my club who gets free butterfly products as he represents the club in national league. I did not like the blade and he already had one so fair exchange
-- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 22/06/2012 at 4:54 Where did you buy rubber? Not from EBAY.
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silva7
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Posted: 07/03/2012 at 7:53am |
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what is your point here?? i do not understand what you are trying to say, it is not coherent.
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RSM Special Platinum T64
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haggisv
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Posted: 07/03/2012 at 8:36am |
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Yes same here... and it's not appropriate to share personal information in a public forum either.
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Thomasson
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Posted: 07/03/2012 at 9:01am |
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As I read it, the first line is saying vclara99 sells fake stuff.
The second line is vclara's response to this accusation in a private message (his private message is in the end of the post). He also included the adress of vclara99. Maybe a mod should atleast remove that part until further notice? :) |
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Blade: TB ALC
FH: Tenergy05 2.1 BH: Tenergy64 1.7 |
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ZApenholder
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Posted: 07/03/2012 at 9:58am |
I think it is not vclara99 selling fake, but used a (claimed) fake in exchange for another rubber. So if vclare99 claims that it is not fake and from a Butterfly sponsored player - and with proof, then the Butterfly sponsored player breached the contract (I have seen a BTY contract before) or can get the player to check with BTY on the "fake" rubber and investigate what happened here - including getting a free exchange. Unless vclare99 claims is not true regarding the above. Either way, I don't think there is any warranty or policing available with these kinds of trades - just finger pointing when something goes wrong |
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ccg7400
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Posted: 07/03/2012 at 1:02pm |
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Hi,
I sent to him PM , but vclare99 did not respond, rubber was open in tenergy 05 box , sponge is yellow, I think everyone who plays table tennis knows how to look fake. I think he knew what he was doing.
This note is to caution the users of this forum.
I bought and sold many things on this forum and have never not sell counterfeit equipment
If I did something wrong I apologize for that.
CCG7400
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liulin04
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Posted: 07/03/2012 at 1:16pm |
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I'm sorry to hear about this ccg, I hope he will respond soon. Before you do another transaction with someone who has very little posts or no feedbacks at all, I'd advise to look elsewhere.
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ejmeser
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Posted: 07/03/2012 at 1:24pm |
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Trading / buying from users without feedback is always risky. Could you provide any pictures of the rubber? There was Feedback thread for the user mentioned and the first one was 100% positive. Hope you will get your case resolved soon!
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liulin04
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Posted: 07/03/2012 at 1:40pm |
low number of feedbacks are also very risky, here are some signs of potential scams that I urgently recommend everyone to use the next time they do another transaction with some unknown sellers: 1. scammer creates multiple accounts, and write feedbacks for the main "operating" account so that it looks legitimate. 2. multiple feedbacks are left on the same day, or in close intervals to one another to decrease suspicions. 3. givers have very low number of posts 4. the last date the givers signed on to this forum is the last day they left the feedback 5. no name and posts for the givers at all. I hope everyone use this 5 rules when buying from unknown sellers. |
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ccg7400
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Posted: 07/05/2012 at 11:25pm |
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vclara99 respond 7/3/2012:
Hello
thanks for the message, i will have to check, the chap will never give me a fake rubber
Thanks |
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vclara99
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Posted: 08/26/2012 at 5:46am |
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I just saw this, might be a good idea to fill all in
here are the comms ?????????? -- Previous Private Message -- hello i still have not got it, i will like to resolve this as quickly as possible. have you got a tracking number i can chase the post office on, they do leave these packages outside or with the neighbour, but if you have a tracking number at least i can chase them Thanks -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 27/07/2012 at 2:31pm Hi, I have confirmation that the package has been delivered. Please let me know what is going on. Thank you -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 24/07/2012 at 7:28pm Still nothing am afraid -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 24/07/2012 at 5:43pm ??????????? -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 22/07/2012 at 7:35pm ok -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 22/07/2012 at 7:22pm Sent the same way like before. Thx -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 22/07/2012 at 6:55pm Hello yes you are right i have 2 tenergy up for sale, i still have not got what you have returned, did you mark it as a gift? if it is seen as a sporting good then it will be at customs and i will have to pay a fee to have it released, but i have not had a card from customs yet, as i said before i do not touch fake stuff, i have been playing table tennis for years and i may not use all the different rubbers but i am experienced enough to know what is fake and what isn't when it shows up i will give you a shout, if you are interested in these also please let me know thanks -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 22/07/2012 at 6:40pm I noticed that you have new tenergys for sale, wondering whay you send me fake one, wainting for anser, please let me know what you wont to do with our case. Thank you -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 08/07/2012 at 5:21am All i can do is promise to look at it when it arrives and we take it from there to get a solution if you are right, an just saying at my club we just don't have fakes -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 07/07/2012 at 8:33pm We agreed for a trade adidas tenzone orginal (it is) for tenergy 25 orginal (it is not). Please look for what I sent you back and you will see. Thank you -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 07/07/2012 at 7:20pm i will wait for what you are sending back, but my tenergy is not fake, we agreed a trade. it is a bit late to be asking for your rubber -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 07/07/2012 at 4:38pm You can think what you want but you sent me fake one. I ask you before where you get tenergy and I sent you first real one. Now if you are honest, you have to find solution. Good luck -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 07/07/2012 at 1:01pm we shall see when i get it, i will not be pleased if you have sent me another rubber thanks -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 07/07/2012 at 8:23am Yes, I sent it back. Weiting for my. Thank you -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 07/07/2012 at 5:26am Yellow Sponge? my tenergy has the deep orange sponge, are you sure you are referring to rubber i sent you -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 06/07/2012 at 2:45pm I sent it to you today, It have yellow sopnge, no stamp on the back. Waiting for real one or my TENZONE back. Thank you -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 06/07/2012 at 8:14am Hello I will be going to the club tomorrow, can you please let me know why you think it is a fake? -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 06/07/2012 at 8:08am THe rubber is fake . I will send it back today. I expect my back also. THank you -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 06/07/2012 at 8:05am sorry for getting back late, i meet with the player i had a swoop with and he assures me the rubber is not fake, am afraid can send the rubber, as it is already traded @ my TT club. the trade was done in good faith thanks -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : ccg7400 Sent : 04/07/2012 at 11:59am I will send you back your rubber tommorow, please send me $ or my rubber (new). Thank you -- Previous Private Message -- Sent by : vclara99 Sent : 03/07/2012 at 1:40pm Hello thanks for the message, i will have to check, the chap will never give me a fake rubber Thanks |
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