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    Posted: 04/08/2006 at 10:03pm
I was wondering, how is it possible to never use traditional backhand? I learned traditional first, and RPB for me, right now, is only backup- there are so many things that RPB can't do as well as traditional, but when i DO use RPB, i always wonder if it would be possible to convert to entirely RPB. The biggest problem in this is blocking. using traditional, you can create angles and spin and all sorts of variations, but CAN YOU BLOCK as were as traditional with RPB??!!
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why the heck did i put this in video's section??!!! im so stupid... oh well. if anyone knows of a game where they've seen a RPB block. put down the link. id like to look at it. tnx!
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well wang hao must do it because he never uses traditional bachand but i think he just counterloops it. i wouldnt bet on it thouhg, id do like ma lin, traditional close to the table and rpb far away from they table
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yea! i love ma lin's playing. its soo awesome! but the only times i use it so far is for looping downspin or juss looping with backhand in general...
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True, RPB is never (I've never seen ...) used for blocking. Doesn't make sense, just use traditional to block.

RPB is only used to open a loop, for me at least.
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Originally posted by pingpongkf pingpongkf wrote:

True, RPB is never (I've never seen ...) used for blocking. Doesn't make sense, just use traditional to block.

RPB is only used to open a loop, for me at least.


why is not making sense a lot of rpb players jiang, xu that are the best ,block rpb
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well,it's true that wang hao uses his bh slmost only for counterlooping but he does occasionally also block with it.I believe he does it so rare partly because it might be harder than traditional(i'm a shakehander and have no idea :)    ) and partly cause it's his style - he has fast footwork and manages to get into the right position for counterattacking.What struck me however, when i was watching his match against chen qi at the croatian open was that he uses rpb for fishing as well...I always ondered why he was so bad at defending off the table and this might just be the explanation.Him using rpb even for fishing made me think that he prabably really can't use traditional bh AT ALL, cause it would definately would have been easier to o it ma lin style for example
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I can block w/ RPB but i just prefer counter-attacking. If i have no time I'll just hold the RPB ready position and let it bounce off. the natural angle provides a good fast return though.
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Blocking with RPb is very difficult because its hard to control your reckon face. Even Wang Hao blocks with the trad backhand when smashing go to his BH side. Its the only shot he uses trad BH for and rarely does it happen.

I think the general instinct for any penholder is to block a really quick shot with Trad BH. Blocking with RPb takes longer than trad aswell.

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Easy to do, simply stick the bat out and punch it.
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really the worst part about all RPB is that you are simply a shakehander with an awesome penholder forehand. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, in fact it might be suitable for those who want to play in between the lower stress level of shakehand and the high stress level of penhold (by stress level I refer to difficulty to learn and intensity of footwork generally required). It is quite fun to see an RPB penholder out rally the shakehander.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tony7190 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/09/2006 at 8:02am
actually, i remember seeing ma lin do it once. i think was during world vs china last year. it looked juss like a traditional, but he looked so awkwards pulling it off...
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RPB blocking actually has a few uses.

High spinning loops short to your backhand is much easier to use RPB to block because of the naturally closed position.

Short spinning topspin serves to backhand is also easier to block with RPB.

Both scenarios mentioned above can be blocked with traditional backhand, but you have to take both shots right off the bounce which requires fast reaction and sometimes you just get caught off guard then RPB blocking is an emergency recovery shot just to keep the ball in play.
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blocking with rpb is easy for me... but blocking smashes thats an other story... rpb angle is much closer so blocking smashes is easier with trad bh.
wang hao counterloops because its really easy to do that if he can counter it, than blocking is no more good...
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I can use RPB to block loops but not smashes. I use trad for blocking smashes and using the chop block.
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i can block loops and smashes but i still prefer to use the traditional c-pen backhand its safer and easy to do. actually when iam using my RPB in blocking iam committing much error...

 

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when i use rpb, besides spinning the ball i also use "tun-gi" that is almost like block and is mostly used with shakehand players. the ball is faster than a traditional block.

a block or tun-gi has no real spin and mostly relied on speed and angle (in no real spin, i'm not refering to any type of chop)
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