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tommyzai
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By profession, I'm a solution-focused therapist. The theory, in short . . . do more of what works and less of what doesn't work. Whatever I did last night did NOT work, and i will NEVER do that again. Of course I will lose matches and lose focus, but . . . no more safely bumping the ball around hoping the opponent makes a mistake. YIKES, it was a painful match.
Great responses guys and gals . . . many options that could help regain focus/timing/game plan. What else do you guys/gals do when you lose it? Time out! Focus on footwork! Focus on the ball sinking in and spin! Edited by tommyzai - 02/13/2014 at 5:53pm |
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tommyzai
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One of the things that might work against me is the fact that I hit with topspin, but don't loop. There isn't much of feeling the ball. It's all about getting into position and choosing the right millisecond to strike the ball. If my timing is off, I'm in the net or off the table.
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BRS
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One other suggestion. I assume you were still aiming for the corners or deep, where you normally would place a FH. If you really can't hit the table, everything is going long or in the net, try aiming at the exact middle of your opponent's side instead. That helps me sometimes, partly just to feel like I can at least get the ball back, and also because if I am that off my shots never hit the center that I am aiming for, so they can be decent shots by accident.
Aiming at the center gives me a way to start correcting my placement without feeling like I am losing too many points too fast before I get things back together.
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tommyzai
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Good suggestion, it's very similar to my Dad's suggestion for struggling batters in baseball. He recommended hitting right back at the pitcher (where the ball came from) when you are in a slump.
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JacekGM
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Speedy's advice is spot on, I just have to repeat this... |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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tommyzai
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Thank you all! I can't wait to play my next match and try the suggestions.
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Pleased to hear you enjoyed the video BRS. One last one to come in that mental training series where there will a few more methods for training up those skills. This is definitely one of the areas that differentiates top players from the rest. |
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what i do when i start to lose focus... during game with my friend i often get side track like for example when i cant return his serve with my banana flick i just keep trying it again and again
more often then not it didn't go well cus he change it up alot..... so what i did is i tell myself okay im getting too sidetracked with flicking his serve but then when tried to push, my push aren't working either because i wasn't ready mentally i started getting passive and im not playing my own game. so what i do is i have a little trick to fix my slump during the game now this only work for me so it might not work for you during the next point whether its his serve or my serve, i made up my mind that im gona kill whatever thats coming at me with my forehand and i dont care if it miss or if it gets me a point all i know is that im gona unleash all my pent up frustration on that ball( some times that gets me a point :D) and then what do you know i start playing better again, even though i got my focus back i still lose to him a majority of the time, but some time im able to win because of it i think that what kill a players focus is anger and frustration blaming yourself isn't going to help you win. so you need a way to calm your self but more often then not players tell themselves to calm down and they end up holding it in and that makes it worse |
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tommyzai
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Boaspirit, usually players let out their anger and frustration on the final shot of a lost match, but this might be worth trying mid-match. Why not?
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tommyzai
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It happened again in today's matches . . . hitting easy kill shots into the net. Tuco noticed I was hitting late . . . maybe my arm was tired.
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strongpong
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I am enjoying this topic and can relate!
So I thought I would compile some of my notes that I make after matches
and training as bit of a summary of experiences. Table tennis is such a fast and dynamic game. There is so much going on………..your
mind must be clear or you will miss it! If you are nervous – your mind is full of worry. If you are angry – your mind is full of self criticisms or judgements
of the situation. If you are pumped up – your mind is full of shouting. If you are correcting yourself – your mind is full of technique. To play well, your automatic response mechanisms must be optimised.
This requires a clear mind. A clear mind keeps your body calm (lower heart rate
and blood pressure) and muscle tension to a minimum. This allows your body to
do what you have trained it to do (muscle memory and subconscious processes). To read the play and time the ball well the brain needs the maximum
amount of input it can get during a rally. To do this you need unwavering focus
on the ball and a clear mind so that the data input (ball speed, spin, and
trajectory, the position of the opponent, etc) gets through to the brain. I have experienced this loss of timing when in front in a match. What’s
changed? I feel fine – calm and relaxed, no nerves, no analysing. It is the
focus on the ball that has dropped in intensity. Errors start happening,
corrections and criticisms enter the mind. More errors, and doubt and worry
enter the mind as well. A downward spiral starts to occur. A lot of people stop
this downward spiral with the aggressive option by shouting internally and
sometimes externally as well – “come on” or “fight”. This shouting drowns out
the other mental processes occurring and helps restore some focus – hence your
game recovers somewhat. The penalty is – it feels unpleasant and is emotionally
draining. This option is unsustainable for tournament play. Need to stay cool
and recognise what is happening in the moment – this is the tricky part. I find recognition of these process during match play is only learnt
through experience. I know the theory and can tell what has happening
retrospectively. Being able to have constant recognition of these process
during match play is my learning curve at the moment. This is what I try to
focus on between points and sets, plus the occasional bit of tactics. I think also that having a coach or team-mate observing these processes
during match would be of huge benefit. Difficult to do as the processes are
mostly internal, unless you are constantly speaking your thoughts and wearing
your heart on your sleeve. What if in between sets, your coach/team mate simply asked – “how do
you feel right now?”. |
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strongpong
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My previous post may or may not be relevant, maybe tommy's arm is tired
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Egghead
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x1 I played a player about the same rating. I won the 1st game 11-2 . His coach gave him some pointers after that. I lose the next game 3-11 . Then, I mixed my shots to win the next 2 games. it sounds like the guy gives you a very light underspin ball |
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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tommyzai
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You are using Dragon Talon. You probably enjoy opponent's underspin.
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Egghead
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I like topspin too. I told my coach how much Dragon Talon OX cost me once; he said it is insane to pay that much for a chinese LP OX I really believe OP's opp gave him a very light underspin ball (it happened to my teammate once ). Can the OP give us his opp set up info |
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Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX
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