Drills from a coaching session with my coach

Egghead wrote: ByeByeAbout wrote: .... The Bad Your "coach" reaching into the basket for a single ball...every time....too much wasted motion.  You taking 1-3 steps to get a single ball to practice serve...and you do it time after time.   Thats the single biggest waste of time I have ever seen.   Either pick up 10-15 balls and put them all into your left pocket and serve each one....thereby negating the need to walk 20 steps...not to mention the rythm you get by serving in a consecutive uninterrupted fashion.  .....OR  move the silly basket close to your left hand so that you need only reach down a couple of inches to retrieve a ball.  I almost had a fkn heart attack watching you walk close to a mile to serve about 20 balls.   You and your "coach" manage to throw the whole idea of being ergomically smart out the window by wasting 10% of the session on wasted motion. Your stance scores a 2/10.  Crouch about 3 inches to at least look like a table tennis player. I didn't see you smile.   Don't post any more video unless you're smiling at least once. .... Beside his coach's "reaching single ball" method (my coach gets 3~4 balls in hand), his coach drops the ball on the table before he hits as well. My coach just hits the balls right away. Don't know does it matter?

CraneStyle wrote: @ PB - Your FH shots are landing well in the table when you connect.... Personally, I think you should try to increase your backswing to generate more power. The follow through will take care of itself when the ball comes back. ...

aroonkl wrote: Huh.... Another internet geek claim to be an expert. I would say Sub-level criticized and tried to teach 2200+, specially unorthodox style. What do you know about this Push-Blocker style? It is very easy to say "YOUR STROKES are flaw! They don't look like China Man from video I watched." Really BS.

hi aroon

i couldn't agree more.  fortunately for all of us, that besides myself, there are also a few others who play and coach at an expert level.   some of these advanced topics might be seen as "geeky" by less evolved players but if you read through each post carefully and then spend some time contemplating the substance i believe that the benefits will far out weigh the perceived "bs"   

i don't know if it's "very easy" to say "your strokes are flawed". 
Personally, as an expert coach and player I struggle with this every day for fear of offending anyone.

lastly, as an unsolicited parenthetical observation it would behoove you to refer to *them* as "asian" or "chinese" as opposed to "china man" for any future posts.   Tact is important, for without feelings of mutual respect what is there to differentiate us from the level of the beast?

regards
rick




Edited by ByeByeAbout - 04/10/2014 at 10:14am

Lestat wrote: ByeByeAbout wrote: aroonkl wrote: Huh.... Another internet geek claim to be an expert. I would say Sub-level criticized and tried to teach 2200+, specially unorthodox style. What do you know about this Push-Blocker style? It is very easy to say "YOUR STROKES are flaw! They don't look like China Man from video I watched." Really BS. hi aroon i couldn't agree more.  fortunately for all of us, that besides myself, there are also a few others who play and coach at an expert level.   some of these advanced topics might be seen as "geeky" by less evolved players but if you read through each post carefully and then spend some time contemplating the substance i believe that the benefits will far out weigh the perceived "bs"    i don't know if it's "very easy" to say "your strokes are flawed".  Personally, as an expert coach and player I struggle with this every day for fear of offending anyone. lastly, as an unsolicited parenthetical observation it would behoove you to refer to *them* as "asian" or "chinese" as opposed to "china man" for any future posts.   Tact is important, for without feelings of mutual respect what is there to differentiate us from the level of the beast? regards rick I thought I read it all, but no… you had to come up with that gem. How can anyone post like you and think of themselves as tactful and filled with mutual respect, is beyond me.

hi les

one of my favorite chinese phrases that i use daily when im in vancouver is "jap jone jing son"...which means "pay attention"... so if you have been paying attention you will have noticed that i speak to people the way they need to be spoken to..no more no less.

no one who has an ounce of security or a modicum of intelligence gets offended by anything i say because they understand the context or genre in which i speak or write. 

it's so easy to say that someone is without respect without actually ever providing a shred of evidence to back it up...you ought to cogitate on that a while.

and fwiw...i am immersed heavily in4 cultures.... wasps, east indians, chinese and filipino's...and who would guess that the only people who want to take umbrage with a bit of jockularity and straight talk would be the proud white man....

you want to have a meaningful conversation with me son, you had better have a slice of humble pie before we begin

regards
rick


Edited by ByeByeAbout - 04/10/2014 at 2:21pm

ByeByeAbout wrote:    i don't know if it's "very easy" to say "your strokes are flawed".  Personally, as an expert coach and player I struggle with this every day for fear of offending anyone. regards rick

Lestat wrote: Just because I call you delusional, it doesn't mean I want to engage you. If I stop to kick every dog that barks, I'd never get anywhere.

newsflash for the uninformed.   calling anyone delusional is engagement.

you can't have it both ways.   my professional recommendation is that if you don't want any engagement then you refrain from commenting.

regards
rick

NextLevel wrote: Oh, well, it's going to take an AgentHex level incident before anything happens. I would recommend people stop feeding the trolls before it goes too far.

nl

i think we're just having a conversation here.     feel free to contribute but please keep it constructive.

are you aware of the fact that some might view *your* post as "trolling"?  using a pejorative term as an ad hominem attack...

food for thought

regards
rick


Edited by ByeByeAbout - 04/10/2014 at 3:34pm

aroonkl wrote: http://www.worldsbestathlete.net/interview/ Now I  see the picture. What a Joke! Really Hallucinate and living in fantasy. The event founded by himself and he owns the title "World Best All-round Athlete Title" "The Worlds Best Athlete International Skills Competition was founded by Rick Anderson and his son Christian-Tyler Anderson" Gotta claw out from your play box, kid.  puppy412 wrote: this looks like current season stats for rick https://www.tabletennis365.com/northumbria/Results/Player/Statistics/Northumbria_Winter_2013-14/Richard_Anderson/58636 interview with rick, the best athlete ever born http://www.worldsbestathlete.net/interview/

hi aroon

thanks for the links...my current level is 2150-2175...as i gained 900 pts in the last yr...just so we're clear.  (i have four words for you:  "serve and serve return")

as for the Skills Comp...it's off topic so if you have any questions about it..you can ask me in the off topic folder or pm..

in brief though, yes the skills competition was created to determine the worlds best all around athlete.    competitors are tested at:

1) basketball foul shots
2) basketball 3 pointers
3) hitting a baseball for distance
4) baseball accuracy throwing
5) hockey shoot out
6) field goal kick for distance
7) tennis accuracy drill
8) soccer shoot out accuracy drill
9) golf accuracy drill
10) speed jump rope drill.

it's the most well rounded multi sports skills competition ever created and has the unnasailable premise that the winner can lay claim to being the worlds all around best athlete.

the nay sayers to this type of skills competition has always come from non athletes...or athletes that excel in only one or two sports.   it is a very humbling competition for a lot of extraordinary athletes...the most common theme we experience is that of an extraordinary basketball player coming out and kicking butt in the two b-ball events but then getting their a$$ handed to them on the other events... or a semi pro soccer player who makes everyone else look like a 6 yr old during the soccer shoot out but who then demonstrates no ability whatsoever in any of the other 9 events.....and it's a decathlon style point system so you have to do well at *all* the sports if you wan't to have a chance at the money.

after over 400 participants to date i have yet to be out-scored over the course of 10 events...so yes, i remain the worlds best all around athlete...for now anyway.

i would love to have included table tennis as part of the competition but myself and the organizing committee could not come up with an objective way to measure table tennis skills.   also...the entire competition has to be able to be done outdoors and be able to be reproduced anywhere in the world....table tennis only met one of the criteria...that of popularity but failed on the other two criteria...so we had to exclude it.

regards
rick


Edited by ByeByeAbout - 04/10/2014 at 4:36pm

ZingyDNA wrote: After viewing his website, I'm starting to believe Rick is a comedian and we're participating in his show right now  Look at this:   Marshall: Were you deprived as a child, of oxygen perhaps? Anderson: Nice ad hominem *Followed by lengthy religious discussion:   Marshall: What do you think Heaven is like? Anderson: At a social gathering in Heaven, you can chat with your grand-mother, with her being a little girl of six and you twenty-five or thirty, or whatever you and she want. At any moment, Our Lady can be a Madonna, with Jesus a baby on her knee, ...    Millions of babies, slain in abortion, will in Heaven speak love with their mothers standing as fully grown men and women, by virtue of the presumed baptism of the innocent under the all-saving will of God. If you have had your appendix out, you can now have it back - if you want. Marshall: It sounds like apocalyptic hallucination. Anderson: Negative. It is elementary extrapolation by analogy from the nature of being that we see around us every day in this world. In Heaven, you can see your friend Bill with or without the shaving scratch he got in 1980 ......     aroonkl wrote: http://www.worldsbestathlete.net/interview/ Now I  see the picture. What a Joke! Really Hallucinate and living in fantasy. The event founded by himself and he owns the title "World Best All-round Athlete Title" "The Worlds Best Athlete International Skills Competition was founded by Rick Anderson and his son Christian-Tyler Anderson" Gotta claw out from your play box, kid.

hi zinga

my first paying job was that of a street performing comedic/magician outside the eaton centre in downtown toronto...typically, saturday afternoons...followed by the very posh yorkville at night to perform to the club scene..i didn't make much but the $75 that i did make seemed like all the money in the world at the time for a 17 yr old living on his own.....i did street and kids shows for yrs and settled on close-up...i am a good/very good card mechanic....so maybe you're not far off the mark...

funny enough....your theological cut and paste is not part of the 'routine' per se...which is not to say that some won't find it funny....

thanks for your thoughts

regards
rick


Edited by ByeByeAbout - 04/10/2014 at 5:50pm

ByeByeAbout wrote: aroonkl wrote: http://www.worldsbestathlete.net/interview/ Now I  see the picture. What a Joke! Really Hallucinate and living in fantasy. The event founded by himself and he owns the title "World Best All-round Athlete Title" "The Worlds Best Athlete International Skills Competition was founded by Rick Anderson and his son Christian-Tyler Anderson" Gotta claw out from your play box, kid.  puppy412 wrote: this looks like current season stats for rick https://www.tabletennis365.com/northumbria/Results/Player/Statistics/Northumbria_Winter_2013-14/Richard_Anderson/58636 interview with rick, the best athlete ever born http://www.worldsbestathlete.net/interview/ hi aroon thanks for the links...my current level is 2150-2175...as i gained 900 pts in the last yr...just so we're clear.  (i have four words for you:  "serve and serve return") as for the Skills Comp...it's off topic so if you have any questions about it..you can ask me in the off topic folder or pm.. in brief though, yes the skills competition was created to determine the worlds best all around athlete.    competitors are tested at: 1) basketball foul shots 2) basketball 3 pointers 3) hitting a baseball for distance 4) baseball accuracy throwing 5) hockey shoot out 6) field goal kick for distance 7) tennis accuracy drill 8) soccer shoot out accuracy drill 9) golf accuracy drill 10) speed jump rope drill. it's the most well rounded multi sports skills competition ever created and has the unnasailable premise that the winner can lay claim to being the worlds all around best athlete. the nay sayers to this type of skills competition has always come from non athletes...or athletes that excel in only one or two sports.   it is a very humbling competition for a lot of extraordinary athletes...the most common theme we experience is that of an extraordinary basketball player coming out and kicking butt in the two b-ball events but then getting their a$$ handed to them on the other events... or a semi pro soccer player who makes everyone else look like a 6 yr old during the soccer shoot out but who then demonstrates no ability whatsoever in any of the other 9 events.....and it's a decathlon style point system so you have to do well at *all* the sports if you wan't to have a chance at the money. after over 400 participants to date i have yet to be out-scored over the course of 10 events...so yes, i remain the worlds best all around athlete...for now anyway. i would love to have included table tennis as part of the competition but myself and the organizing committee could not come up with an objective way to measure table tennis skills.   also...the entire competition has to be able to be done outdoors and be able to be reproduced anywhere in the world....table tennis only met one of the criteria...that of popularity but failed on the other two criteria...so we had to exclude it. regards rick

Edited by aroonkl - 04/10/2014 at 11:54pm

Ok, I gave up. I tried my best but you didn't wake up. Let me know when you have invitation to White House dinner.

Edited by aroonkl - 04/11/2014 at 2:22am

yogi_bear wrote: this thread has been derailed long enough. another of set of arguments not related to the original post and i will close this thread!

nice training video pb...you're looking good.   excellent deep pushes.  i will be sure to bring my A Game if ever our paths should cross.

regards
rick

fourcourts wrote: Let me share a few comments since I've played practice matches against Oliver several times. Oliver, it's nice to see you getting coaching from Gary and trying new things. I do think attacking some will help you. However, I hope you're not trying to convert to a Robert S. or Shuja, or even a Wetzler type player. I think this will be a liability. Probably, plan your attack percentage before a match and obviously, the lower rated the player, the more frequent you can attack. There was discussion about the FH follow through. I think it might look weird to some not because of the follow through itself but because you don't bend your legs enough. Obviously, if I'm your coach, I'm not gonna tell you to dig deep down like Ryu Seung Min. We have to have reasonable expectation here. I would just say bend your knees and go as low as you comfortably can. The arm itself is fine, going across your body and over your left shoulder. I was pleased with twirling to the inverted side on the BH to attack. Nice! But I was surprised to see so many misses on the BH LP attack side (Dr. Neubauer style). I would focus more in this as much as the FH loop. The nice crisp BH LP slap that Bastian Steger kept missing in the training video. This is what you want. I was also pleased with the serve and FH loop drills from Gary. This will be a nice change of pace against an opponent who has zeroed in on your LP blocking pattern. I did see one drill where you FH looped and Gary sent one fast to your LP BH and you blocked. I will say, if you're not doing it already, to add some where you do a FH counterhit off the bounce. Not everything has to be looped. I look forward to seeing you apply what you're learning in a tournament.

x2
My coach has this pattern for me as well (one FH drive, one FH killer loop, block at BH LP). If you watch Fukuoka Haruna's video, you will find that FH with PB style is an all out attack like RYU too.

I cannot image Oliver FH attacking at his BH corner. If I were Oliver, I would attack only the opp does not attack at all. For all critics, please watch Oliver's video, his style does not need to worry his FH swing



Edited by Egghead - 04/11/2014 at 2:37pm