Donic Bluefire Big Slam - comparison?

"I would like to replace BFM1Turbo with softer and probably slightly faster rubber, which one will be okay for my purpose?"
"I would like to replace BFM1Turbo with softer and probably slightly faster rubber"
"replace BFM1Turbo with softer and probably slightly faster"
"softer and probably slightly faster"

... pick one

But to give a serious answer Bluefire Big Slam is both significantly softer and significantly slower than M1 Turbo is.

Was Tenergy 05 not softer? Maybe Tenergy 64 is something you might like?

GeneralSpecific wrote: "I would like to replace BFM1Turbo with softer and probably slightly faster rubber, which one will be okay for my purpose?" "I would like to replace BFM1Turbo with softer and probably slightly faster rubber" "replace BFM1Turbo with softer and probably slightly faster" "softer and probably slightly faster" ... pick one But to give a serious answer Bluefire Big Slam is both significantly softer and significantly slower than M1 Turbo is. Was Tenergy 05 not softer? Maybe Tenergy 64 is something you might like?

I meant BFM1turbo has not so big catapult effect as T05, in the same time it is more harder than I need.
I just asked about the quality of the new generation and last models donic rubbers, if is possible someone to make comparison - I will be thankful.
T64 is not any option for my backhand...I don't need higher throw rubber than T05 on the bh.
Just slightly faster, slightly softer than BFM1Turbo.
If another rubber could be ok - you could share your opinion...

Thanks Gen.Spec. for your opinion.
Donic rubbers ....I will refuse testing after I noticed the points posted by manufacturer.
I don't think M1 Turbo is some TURBO for real, but instead. Hard, Heavy and Spiny rubber, appropriate for players looking to play at closer distance.
Seems a real upgrade for this model rubber is not available for now.
But I received Rasanter 47 and today tested it for 20min and I am extremely disappointed of this rubber.
It has solid feeling (48grams with shape 158-153), but something is missed with this this rubber. I have STIGA Airoc max black on my forehand and just used to play today with this new Rasanter 47 rubber on my backhand, but I will definitely go for another rubber.
I can't say I felt very secured myself with this rubber too. I expected more lively rubber, with good jump, I expected to be more bouncy, but this Rasanter 47 is more allround rubber and needs more shoulder power, nothing even close to T64/05, for example. The standard and original rubber rasant is probably better rubber for players looking for power offensive game. This rubber rasanter 47 has low throw and it is really hard to play with it for me.
Another problem is the weight - all the paddle gone 196 grams with my 92 grams blade Hadraw SR.
Not sure which rubber I will try, but Rasanter 47 will go for sale for sure. Could be better for use with carbon blades, but I am in love with my Hadraw SR...
Any ideas more ?!



Edited by kolevtt - 04/01/2017 at 9:51am

Yes, rasanter 47 is not so much bouncy rubber, but I think it is more specific to play with it, specially for me. Nor for fh or bh, Stiga Airoc M has much more predictable trajectory and easy to estimate my movements, while with rasanter47 I felt myself in a trouble by all the points connected with estimation...Another player around my level tested it and found it hard to play with it too, the ball is going very low, not so slow, but it has lower jump than most of the well known german tensors. Looking for lower weight and good speed with high jump I will go probably for MX-P with 2.0mm or rubber close to that one as speed and feeling.

Well, Andy I can agree with you, because your needs are different then mine and you have explained it clearly.
Yes, MX-P and M1, these are probably the best after Tenergy as skills, may be and some Xiom rubbers like IV Pro...
Seems new ESN rubbers are going to follow new standards - back to the future of the elder generation rubbers before Tenergy.
Today's game is built mostly over the high jump possibilities of the new rubbers, I mean the professional players. I will be more than surprised to see pro player using rasanter 47, this will be kind of joke, or probably someone who is looking to block and cut the ball on bh could be interested. Even Tibhar Aurus or Genius rubbers I will prefer much more than this "new" technology by Andro...


Edited by kolevtt - 04/01/2017 at 6:02pm

kolevtt wrote: Well, Andy I can agree with you, because your needs are different then mine and you have explained it clearly. Yes, MX-P and M1, these are probably the best after Tenergy as skills, may be and some Xiom rubbers like IV Pro... Seems new ESN rubbers are going to follow new standards - back to the future of the elder generation rubbers before Tenergy. Today's game is built mostly over the high jump possibilities of the new rubbers, I mean the professional players. I will be more than surprised to see pro player using rasanter 47, this will be kind of joke, or probably someone who is looking to block and cut the ball on bh could be interested. Even Tibhar Aurus or Genius rubbers I will prefer much more than this "new" technology by Andro...

I definitely can't play with this rubber, but I found it is good for chopping from distance. That's why I posted my experience here - this rubber is probably made for allrounders who are looking to play from shoulder mostly, this rubber has good speed, but lower throw than standard rasant rubber or mx-p. Today's players are playing with more shorter, but powerful and precise strokes, no time for rubbers like Rasanter 47 at professional level. Yeah, probably for some girl looking to push and block over the table could be acceptable or some chopper looking for single shots with all the power. Nothing else about this rubber...I lost my time only, but hope my wrong experience to be useful for the members here. I have Matsushita Pro model 93 grams with metal logo and I could make test to confirm my thoughts next week, but sad thing here is the rubber is already cut about the size of my bty hadraw SR blade. No matter of that I will make the test and I will give a feedback again...