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Leftstudio 
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 Topic: H3 Hard on TT11Posted: 08/20/2019 at 10:36am |
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Has anyone tried this H3 Hard? I see it on TT11
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YoAss
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Posted: 08/20/2019 at 10:45am |
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Riddiccullusz! *poof*
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Posted: 08/20/2019 at 4:49pm |
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it's likely just 40 or 41 deg
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haggisv
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Posted: 08/21/2019 at 7:19am |
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DHS have changed their labelling of their commercial rubbers to just Hard, Medium and Soft.
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Posted: 08/26/2019 at 6:14pm |
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So what does that translate to in terms of degrees? 38, 39, and 40 degrees? Their domestic (Chinese) market commercial rubbers are still sold by hardness degrees.
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haggisv
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Posted: 08/27/2019 at 1:06am |
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I don't know what degree it translates to, but I suspect their readings were not accurate to 1 deg anyway. The ones in the local market are probably old stock.
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Posted: 08/27/2019 at 8:57am |
Given the volume they would sell in China, I wouldn't really be too surprised if it were within 0.5-1 degree of the marking. Their production has clearly gotten pretty good since NEO first came out, as we can see by the fact that they release blue sponge and provincial/national grades to the public now. Wouldn't put it past them to have a durometer in their production process that tests and classifies sponges after cutting - shouldn't be that hard.
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Posted: 08/27/2019 at 3:41pm |
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I doubt given the huge table tennis market in China that the rubbers with hardness labels are "old stock." It's much more likely that the smaller markets outside China have old stock. In any case, it's already well-known that DHS produces different labels for the domestic market and international market. Even "newer" rubbers like Hurricane 8 can be bought with labels indicating different hardness degrees.
In any case, my guess is that "medium" is 39d and "hard" is 40. In China you can get commercial hurricane anywhere between 38 and 41 degrees....so, much more choice than just "medium" and "hard". I wish DHS was better in the information department...so much about them is very nebulous.
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Posted: 08/27/2019 at 3:58pm |
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dhs used to sell neo rubbers without hardness labeling to global market but now all shops on aliexpress have rubbers with labeling. there are no non-labeling products left, not even at lower price. and they sell those in 39, 40 and 41. now think about what that means.
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haggisv
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Posted: 08/27/2019 at 7:21pm |
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I'll ask them
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Posted: 08/28/2019 at 8:10pm |
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Sounds good! Let us know what you find out.
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Posted: 08/29/2019 at 6:45am |
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According to DHS, they will soon start using degrees labels for export rubbers as well, as soon as they run out of the soft/med/hard labels.
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Posted: 08/31/2019 at 2:04pm |
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That's great news! Thanks!
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Posted: 09/02/2019 at 11:04pm |
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I just noticed that we still don't know what "medium" or "hard" etc. translate to. Did DHS give you any answers to that? If they start offering actual hardness degrees outside China soon, then it would be useful to know what one has been playing so far (like "medium") so one can buy that in actual degrees.
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