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Well i started the thread so i should contribute.  Finishing people off (so i guess mental toughness), the short game and footwork are my big problems.  I attribute footwork to my bad knee but i still know i can move better and am mentally just working on it. The short game I need to drill more, it is slowly improving but I need to use it more.  Mental toughness i guess just comes with experience.
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For me the hardest skill to learn is serve return.  It involve reading the spin, the placement of the ball, and what to do about it (not just what to do about it, but what to do about it base on the opponent - offence\defence\pipin\pipout etc...).  Also the amount (or lack off) practice on it.  Normally, I do not get to return wicked serve until game time, which is too late Cry. Anyone know of the way to practice wicked serve return, please let me know.
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Originally posted by LeeMc LeeMc wrote:

Originally posted by ssiew968 ssiew968 wrote:

Mine is the forehand flick. Not that I dont know how to do it technically with lots of videos available, it's more of the mindset that I need to overcome. Appreiciate any advice to overcome this.
 
 
 
I feel you, I feel I know how to do many things "technically" but it's all about developing muscle memory.  I have trouble with the forehand flick also, I was practising it a few weeks ago and a guy was telling me to put more of my body/arm into the shot, which helped a little, but I still don't know how some people get so much power and lift backspin, practice I guess. Embarrassed


I don't mean to derail this thread with "flick technique" suggestions, but I'm currently learning this stroke and making some nice headway. In multi-ball drills, I've gone from an approximately 60% success rate to about a 90% success rate in the last week. The key for me is timing... make sure you hit the ball at the top of the bounce. Also, it requires a great deal of commitment. It's not a stroke you can pull off "half-assed". Big%20smile

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One more vote for return of serve.

This not only involves being able to return any serve, but returning them in a way that prevents your opponent from a powerful attack.

Maybe more than retuning serve, performing quality returns!
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hardest skill is footwork. Most of us do not have proper footwork and techniques unless you start professional training since early age like 5 to 11 years old.
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Well Aaron,
 
let me ask you this perhaps it will bring some light to your question. :)
 
You have seen Mitch play, you see how he takes appart peoples game.
 
The answer, is working with the ball.
 
Regardless of what the other person does, if you can dead ball loop a top spin, change a loop drive into a HEAVY chop over the table, or even serve return. That will put you ahead by a lot. Not many people will "work with the ball", they mostly POWER THROUGH the ball. Since I have been working with Mitch, that is one part that I say has improved my game more than anything else and that is working with the ball at all times.
 
The other part and specifically to your game, the propensity to rip balls that have no business being ripped to begin with ;) You do that a lot. You need to clean up the loop so you can have numerous different loops.
 
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I beat Mitch in the 2008 San Diego Open in our only meeting...  He returned the favor two months when he visited our LATTA club and played in my Open round robin.  A great player and one of the best coaches there is!  Good for you to have him as your coach.   Smile
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well at least yall can probably hit a good bh..bh is hard for me because I always want to chop at the ball (even though it always goes over) lol

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oh i also forgot. its also very hard to have a "unified consciousness" and be like waldner while spending too much time in front of your computer LOL
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It seems like footwork and service return seem to be the hardest skills to take on here, I am just curious what seems to make footwork so hard for people?
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The most overlooked skill in TT is the mastering of the 'short game'  incorporating serves, without any doubt. Most basement players and even itermeadiate to advance overlook this most important area and do not spend enough time mastering it, IMO, as a coach. I run a coaching school, the majority of my pupils get immeadiate results when we work on this area of their game. What do we work on? playing push strokes outside of the 'comfort zone' of the opposition ie, long and short length in the pushing game to take the opposition outside their 'comfort zone' then attaccking strokes are easier. Bearing in mind I specialise as a coach in trying to improve players who fall outside the accepted means of coaching, ie young players who have potential, I work with old players just trying to get a little bit betterWink Want to come on board anyone? I have found a real niche in this market, I am seriously quite near being able to go fully pro.
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would be interested in methods of f/h push when doing short serve return,often in matches most serves are into my b/h and when the occasional one goes to f/h it can catch me out,blade angle etc?

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touch, i feel like you either have it or don't Angry
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Chinese national team and my coach says counterlooping is one of the most technical/most difficult things to learn.  But for me it would have to be the RPB for penhold coming from 1 sided penhold.  That took a while to learn from scratch.  2nd would be touch and feel because thats always ongoing.  Those naturally gifted players who naturally have great feel have a huge advantage there.

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