Heavy Bottom spin opponent.

Angle your paddle more upward.

And for short balls, slam the high ones, push the low ones.

keven702 wrote: O, No problem� Thanks for the tips�o wait...

I edited my worthless reply. I have been awake for too many hours...

Since you have no formal training, I don't really have a way to ascertain your knowledge. So, please forgive me if these are too "low level" for you. The first two are what to do against short balls (or serves) and the last one is what to do against long balls (or serves). Of course, these techniques take a while to develop. I suggest finding a coach, but maybe these short clips will steer you in the right direction.

backhand push.

forehand push.

forehand loop.

Firstly, you started 2 months ago and you're having trouble with control.  First thing you need to do is get a setup more fit for your level.  A TBS with H3/Boost isn't really the ideal setup for beginner who can't read spin or control the ball.

Wouldn't highly not recommend not going NEO... Non NEO #20 would be way way way too hard if not speedglued or tuned.

Post a video?

O, I don't really have any problem pushing just the long fast and spinny ones are the ones that catch me off guard. 

Having a slower, more flexible, 5 ply all wood setup would still allow him to reinforce his techniques.  The difference is in the level of feel and touch he will gain from it.  The more he feels, the faster he learns how to control all the lil nuances from spin to dwell time to learning strokes.  The faster he learns to control, the more he'll improve at a faster rate.  Landing kill shots at a 90% clip (which I highly doubt unless you're some super pro) is great and all but whats the use when you can't even get to your kill shot due to the inability to control a serve return or the unability to open off of underspin?  It's meaningless at this point of his development.  Always learn control/placement before power.

@ keven702,

If you know that your technique is good than all I can say that keep going at it, and anticipating more.  If the long push keeps you off guard, it means that you are waiting for a short one and maybe you stand too close to the table and ready to push instead of loop.

About looping backspin push, you have to work on it a lot and I say that you will need to remember to bend down low, weight on your right foot (I assume you are the right-hander), turn your waist slightly to the back, arm straight down low, and then starting to turn your waist, pushing up with your right foot, arm moving up and loop the ball (someone says that when looping backspin, imagine you are throwing something very heavy over the table or maybe over an imagine wall).

I lost to a backspin pusher for about a year before I got over him so you might have to lose a lot of matches against your opponent before you can get better.

Hope that helps.

FireHorse 

Yeah totally agree with Icon and Round... I see beginners using Schlagers alot and sure they might get a killshot or 2 and look great.  But seriously, most of em can't control the thing. 

Anton Chigurh wrote: Since you have no formal training, I don't really have a way to ascertain your knowledge. So, please forgive me if these are too "low level" for you. The first two are what to do against short balls (or serves) and the last one is what to do against long balls (or serves). Of course, these techniques take a while to develop. I suggest finding a coach, but maybe these short clips will steer you in the right direction. backhand push. forehand push. forehand loop.

Anton Chigurh wrote: cole_ely wrote: Anton Chigurh wrote: Since you have no formal training, I don't really have a way to ascertain your knowledge. So, please forgive me if these are too "low level" for you. The first two are what to do against short balls (or serves) and the last one is what to do against long balls (or serves). Of course, these techniques take a while to develop. I suggest finding a coach, but maybe these short clips will steer you in the right direction. backhand push. forehand push. forehand loop.   You know, I watched the fh and bh push videos, and I really don't like the form they demonstrate.  I was taught and I believe that your racket movement should be parallel to the table, a couple inches over it.  I don't like that "start high and chop down" motion at all.    That said, I noticed that they didn't really DO that once they started demonstrating with a ball.  They kept their pushes more level like I would do.   Also, on the fh side you have to be ready to lay that racket out and point the tip out when the ball is short.  I'd like to see them do that one from low to high! They were the first instructional vids I came across on Youtube. However, I would add that the angle of the blade is dependent upon the perception of the magnitude of incoming spin. Have an angle parallel to the table against a ball with very light backspin and you'll soon be wearing that ball.

I think Cole mean the stroke movement of the push.  I do the same to, but if need to put back spin into mu push then I do start high and chop down as told in the video, however to do this you need to chop the ball right off the bounce or else it will be netted.

cole_ely wrote: Anton, yes, the blade angle varies according to your read of backspin.  But the path of the stroke should always be in a straight, horizontal line imo barely above the table.   That is, unless you're pushing against topspin, which is a very advanced technique pro's use as an excuse to pound the crap out of tables! :)

I see. Thanks for the clarification, Cole.

Anybody can hit the ball hard and NOT make it land on the table!

O I mean i can hit it hard and land 90% i mean with 50-70% power and people say its a hardshot but of course 100% power there probably be errors with anyone.  I'm not trying to complement myself haha.

And I'm 19 I am still active in basketball but not really in other sports any more. And I found out about table tennis when I was 16 when i went over to my friends house and found trophies for TT. At first like most americans, I found it kind of a stupid sport because It was played on such a small table and required less physical movement. But its end up being fun and I played fora  few weeks. 2 months ago my buddy(not the one who won trophys) ask me to play and we had alittle competetive thing going and it was pretty fun. (of course I'm alot better So I just fool around with him most of the time but I still learn alot!) I just have trouble playing with more advanced players who put alot of underspin and im not used to such advance "techniques" because the lack of play time with better players. But still I rather have fun and laugh it up with my buddy when we have a long rallys


O yea I'm 6'4 so its thats where the difficulty lies for me in attacking underspin I think. I  bend my needs and squat but the fast low spinny underspin seems just to skid off the table and touches my paddle and drops and it seems i cant hit the ball and the optimum point because the ball is so low.