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    Posted: 10/06/2007 at 3:55am
When I play I can never use full strength or the ball goes out of the table. My way to hit the ball is swinging forearm with the bat angle closed. Is that wrong?
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i have that mentality too, like i dont hit full power cause im scared it goes over table. with the fh counter, DONT MOVE UR WRIST during the shot, keep it stable and steady! use the whole forearm and body, that'll create confidence for ur shot. cause i did move my wrist and the ball went bonkers on me. the angle should be 30 degrees i think.
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is the angle smaller the more power you can hit the ball without going out? Because you send the ball downwards very fast?
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the angle should be near vertical, but like 20 degrees down, this is for counter
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swing across to the shoulder upwards?
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ok don swing across, swing from down to up and forward, but not brushing, just going forward, man if only i had  camera and video to explain, it would be much better.
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that seems awkward...up and forward not across?

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yeh across, but u  go diagonal. uhhgh how can i explain this
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video please
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ok dude, just download any training video, like samsonov boll, schlager, when u see em counter, they go from down to up, bot brushing but still goin forward
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You should never have to counter with effort, a counter is a counter because you use the opponent's force to generate a fast ball. Your timing is more important than anything else here.
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you're actually not supposed to use your full strength in general because of the possibility that you cannot react fast enough to be ready to hit a second shot in the case that your opponent blocks the shot...instead you should be going for consistency at around 80% of your full power until you feel that you can make one one that they can't block...
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Originally posted by manduman88 manduman88 wrote:

you're actually not supposed to use your full strength in general because of the possibility that you cannot react fast enough to be ready to hit a second shot in the case that your opponent blocks the shot...instead you should be going for consistency at around 80% of your full power until you feel that you can make one one that they can't block...


Agreed. My coach has said that you should always be only using 80% of your full power in a match to guarantee enough recovery time, even if you're killing a loose ball.
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i think i interpret full strength as a hit with confidence
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that is some great tips

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i cant wait to try these when i get to training
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I've learned that when you do a lond distance loop from a good distance away from the table and you really want to give a good swing, it seems you need to close the racket a little more.

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Originally posted by Swiffers Swiffers wrote:

I've learned that when you do a lond distance loop from a good distance away from the table and you really want to give a good swing, it seems you need to close the racket a little more.

True it is. My new coach says that you will have to close the blade like when you are lobbing
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Yes, and I guess hitting those shots with a lot of strength would mostly be find the right blade angle and swing motion...... I outta try and work on those as well....
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