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Yugen 
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 Topic: How to serve practisePosted: 03/20/2019 at 9:18pm |
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Hi community. What should I prioritise when serve practising alone at the table? What is the order of importance? For example:
1. Be able to get maximum spin potential 2. Placement 3. Length 4. Deception
I just need some ideas on effective serve practise progression as I won't have acces to a training partner for quite a while.
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mickd
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Posted: 03/20/2019 at 10:25pm |
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There's also height. Going low over the net is probably more important than a lot of the others.
I don't have a proper service practice regime, but I usually pick one of those things and work on it. I think it's important to do the same serve over and over again, and not switch too frequently between different serves. I'm sure others will have better advice!
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pitigoi
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Posted: 03/20/2019 at 11:11pm |
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I'm trying to get into ready position by the time the opponent hits the ball.
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maurice101
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Posted: 03/20/2019 at 11:23pm |
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If you want to work on spin start with floor serves and also bed serves. You can see the degree of spin. Then move to the table.
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benfb
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Posted: 03/21/2019 at 2:04am |
I think Mick is right on this. In the days of celluloid (40 or 38) balls, you could make an argument for focusing on spin. And, of course, in the days of hidden serves, deception was very important. But in the modern world of plastic balls, spin and deception aren't what they used to be. So I would focus first on bounce height.
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serr
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Posted: 03/21/2019 at 8:33am |
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First focus on maximum spin then work on height, lenght and deception. It's still quite possible to fool higher level players on serve and get an extra point or two in a game so deception is a very important aspect imo.
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lineup32
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Posted: 03/21/2019 at 10:38am |
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2 months ago I started a weekly one hour serve training alone with about 125 40+ balls which I use per serve variation. My notes to start:
Toss Stroke movement Ball contact/friction/force height of contact placement on serve side of table placement on opponent side of table variations of serve, backspin, side, topspin, short double bounce, short and long My initial recommendation is to work on form, toss, stroke movement, contact etc and practice those elements until during matches those elements are 2nd nature. Lots of videos available below is a link to one of my favorites: https://dynamictabletennis.com/table-tennis-serves-serving-deep/ Edited by lineup32 - 03/21/2019 at 2:13pm |
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mhnh007
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Posted: 03/21/2019 at 1:27pm |
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Search on youtube for Michael Maze training video. He talks in length regarding how to practice serves.
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Tt Gold
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I usually start off by doing one box with my usual serves. Just to get the feeling for the serves. After that I'm doing serves that I already have and try to work on the amount of spin and placement. But I don't do that for all serves. I usually pick one kind of spin or set of serves. So for example side underspin serves and no spin as a variation. And after that I think of different serves that I'm not doing right now, but that I might want to add to my serves.
The most important things imo are to: 1. Try a serve and increase spin and vary placements 2. Add a different spin serve with a similar motion to the first serve later on 3. Take your time and really think about the serve you just did ( was it good? Should I brush the ball thinner, use more wrist, underarm and so on?) 4. Try your new serves in games and watch where they are being returned to. ( does the serve come to one position a lot? Can I follow up strongly after the serve, or am I having problems afterwards) Note: The serve doesn't have to be short or with insane amount of spin. If you can get an easy return or know where the ball will be returned, then you'll be in a good position. |
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mickd
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Posted: 03/21/2019 at 9:49pm |
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I'm going to add a little more to this thread. This is how I've been practicing learning new serves recently.
1. Decide what serve I want to learn (pendulum, reverse pendulum, hook, etc). 2. Figure out the contact point and the final arm/wrist movement to get there (just the last movement, so no pre-motions or after motions or even body usage). I usually start with under or side under. 3. Practice spinning the ball using that motion to create a decent amount of spin (I don't think about height, placement, body usage here). I contact the ball a little further from my body so I can clearly see what I'm doing. For me this helps to get the initial feeling since if you do it close to the body it adds an extra layer of difficulty. Once I have a good feel for the contact and touch there: 4. Try to get the same brushing/contact while contacting the ball closer to the body. Add body rotation. 5. Try to get the ball low over the net while maintaining body usage and spin. Once I get consistent there, the serve is good to go but: 6. Add a side and side top version of the serve with the same starting motions while maintaining body usage and contacting the ball close to the body. 7. Add a no spin version and a long version. Depending on the serve, I might do 7 before 6, or even skip one of them entirely. For old serves, I pick one thing I want to work on, say increasing spin, getting the ball lower, better placement, more body usage, deception, etc and just try to improve that by doing it over and over again with a bucket of balls.
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