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    Posted: 02/24/2022 at 10:19am
Orlando Florida September 1-4

Event will be run by North American Table Tennis and JOOLA
There is $100,000 in the prize pool, here are some of the featured prize money stats:

- Open Singles Champion $25,000!
- There are $1000 prizes for Collegiate Men's and Women's Singles
- There are over $2000 in prizes for school events - High School, Middle School and Elementary
- There is over $4000 up for grabs for the over 30 singles events alone. - There is prize money in over 40, 50 and 60 events in the hundreds for both singles and doubles. Right now the earlybird entry fee is $299. Here is the homepage for the event: https://joola.com/events/global-championships/ Here is the registration and prize money breakdown: http://natabletennis.com/tournaments/register.php?tournament=1
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Originally posted by PingPongPom PingPongPom wrote:

Orlando Florida September 1-4

Event will be run by North American Table Tennis and JOOLA
There is $100,000 in the prize pool, here are some of the featured prize money stats:

- Open Singles Champion $25,000!
- There are $1000 prizes for Collegiate Men's and Women's Singles
- There are over $2000 in prizes for school events - High School, Middle School and Elementary
- There is over $4000 up for grabs for the over 30 singles events alone. - There is prize money in over 40, 50 and 60 events in the hundreds for both singles and doubles. Right now the earlybird entry fee is $299. Here is the homepage for the event: https://joola.com/events/global-championships/ Here is the registration and prize money breakdown: http://natabletennis.com/tournaments/register.php?tournament=1

OK, sure, fine; it looks fabulous but does NATT have ANY experience organizing and operating large tournaments of this size?

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The teams every year and us nationals and open prior to 2019, so yes a fair bit :)
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There's also over $5000 in the hardbat and sandpaper events, as well as prize money all the way up to the over 60 events. Early entry is limited to the first 100 entrants, so best not to wait if you are interested :) 
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Now that is a way to bring the sport together. I see you are includin HS and college tt. Well done 
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Originally posted by FS1 FS1 wrote:

Now that is a way to bring the sport together. I see you are includin HS and college tt. Well done 

Dare I say, somebody should be doing it! :D Karakasevic just entered, there is a lot of interest from the pro side, so we could really get some fantastic matches. Pistej wants in on the sandpaper and it's looking like Baggaley could show up, so that would be epic as well!
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Anyone interested in entering there are three weeks left to the deadline. I have coupon codes for $100 discount on entry for anyone who wants them! :)
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Price has been lowered to $299 for up to 8 events for everyone. Baggaley, Szymanski and Gorak are all confirmed (means there will be some good sandpaper action too!) and Keinath is looking likely also.

Every single playing court will have rubber flooring for all matches. This is really a massive effort, so far the entry numbers are a little on the slow side which is somewhat disappointing, hopefully more players will see this is going to be a great event and get entered!
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Last day to enter tomorrow, been hearing rumors of cancellation - not true at all, event is going ahead as planned! Hope to see some of you there.
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Joola USA should host the world team champs final 2022
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And the results may be found at?
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Originally posted by DonnOlsen DonnOlsen wrote:

And the results may be found at?

Choose "2022 JOOLA Global Championships" in the drop down box near the top.
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Open Singles and Women's Singles semifinals and finals

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Wow, Amy Wang made Lily Zhang look like an amateur.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Wow, Amy Wang made Lily Zhang look like an amateur.

It is inherent in the matchup. Lily usually doesnt get pressured on the BH diagonal but that is Amy's overwhelming strength. 
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Lily kept serving the same dinky no spin serve to the same spot over and over, getting back hand flip killed almost every single time...
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Wow, Amy Wang made Lily Zhang look like an amateur.

Thought One
This is simple, very simple.  Amy drives the ball hard; Lily does not.  That's it.  Full stop.

Viewed from the perspective of the designation of "professional player," a term used to indicate the highest of standards, Lily's game is a mess.  Clearly there are not the products of hard, demanding, discomforting training and competition; the intensity is not there, the precision is not there, the stability is not there, the physicality is not there.

Floating around in the lap of low intensity luxury does not professional hardness make.  

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I really like people like Amy Wang.  Look at all the 13 year olds who drop out of the sport, and the 14 year olds, and the 16 year olds.  Amy kept going and going.  She is such a fine and impressive player.  She is a role model.

Let us also acknowledge the contribution here of Lily Yip's Center.  Much influential credit should be paid to the environment they have created for Amy's development.  They should be justly proud of their participation in Amy's success.

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Winner: Horacio Cifuentes $25,000
Runner Up: Kou Lei $10,000

For comparison, winner of a WTT Contender Tunis won $5,000; runner up was $2,500
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And, from the perspective of Lily, all you can say is Thank God for that phony ITTF ranking system that affords her all sorts of undeserved and unchallenged opportunities.

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It’s pretty poor form to judge a player so much on a single match result Donn. Need you be reminded that Lily Zhang has set records and been a trailblazer for womens table tennis in this country. I think you need to put your opinions in check. Lily is flying to Oman tonight for another WTT event then to Kazakshtan before WTTC - how many other players do you see out there doing that? 

She is doing what other players don’t have the commitment to do, so I think it’s fairly appalling to call her opportunities undeserved. 

I’m all for congratulating Amy, she played amazingly. But it’s absolutely SHAMEFUL to talk about Lily Zhang like that.
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Not the first time, in June there was a similar post. He's probably just jealous that she didn't hire him as her coach/manager/adviser. Or maybe there are other factors but I don't want to speculate, it's clearly "a mess."
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I know first hand what Lily has been through to keep competing in this sport and Donn has zero clue all the things going on in the background. It’s very easy to judge people on a handful of results at face value and make rubbish assumptions about these players and I don’t intend to sit here and not defend her. How would usa table tennis look on the women’s side without Lily Zhang for the last decade I wonder? Just absolutely toxic commenting and totally baseless opinions.
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My only interaction I had with Lily is after a tough loss in the finals of a tournament.  She graciously stayed after the match to take pictures with fans (including myself)... she is a total class act.  She was one of pioneers (including Ariel) that paved the way for young girls across the USA.  

Whatever struggles she may have against Amy (tough style match ups happen), let's not forget that *this year* she's beaten: Chen Szu Yu, Asuka Sasao, Petrissa Solja.... and nearly beat Kasumi Ishikawa.
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Donn, what do you know about Lily's training and what sources have provided her opportunities for training and competition lately? Because based on your comments, it seems you don't know a thing. 

Maybe hold off from making such critical and demeaning posts and acting all-knowing when you have little to zero knowledge of situations. The constant pleonasm, rife with false assumptions and statements, is tiring at best and pretentious misinformation at worst.

Amy played great. She has long given Lily trouble and it was a well deserved win with a lot of nets and edges that went Amy's way and set the tone for the match.  She is in great form after returning from her summer training in Europe - interesting that Donn would choose to single out the LYTTC for credit in the context of this match. 
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

My only interaction I had with Lily is after a tough loss in the finals of a tournament.  She graciously stayed after the match to take pictures with fans (including myself)... she is a total class act.  She was one of pioneers (including Ariel) that paved the way for young girls across the USA.  

Whatever struggles she may have against Amy (tough style match ups happen), let's not forget that *this year* she's beaten: Chen Szu Yu, Asuka Sasao, Petrissa Solja.... and nearly beat Kasumi Ishikawa.


Lily is a good sport

I once greeted and said hi to Amy in a training hall, she didn't wave back.
She was still a kid (6 years ago) then and not some big shot team USA player.
Maybe she doesn't have PR skills then? or maybe that is just how she is, I don't know.

Never the less, energy and body language on the table, Lily is by far more appealing than Amy

Loosing is part of being a champion.
Loosing 1 match and getting bashed is part of being a champion
There is no doubt, Lily on the international front is a threat to many.

In USA, I think it is difficult for Lily to stay competitive as the competition is only from SF and Final (aka, the quality is so low, so how can you peak properly?). Other than money and loyalty (and contractual obligations), There isn't much point for Lily to even play TT tournaments in the USA.

So chin up and look at the bigger picture

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Quote from Donn Olsen from 2012:
The heavens must be a generous place, for they gave us Lily Zhang.


Must have been a really bitter falling out - well, at least for one person...

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I also hate the current world ranking system and have written about it here before.  It is what it is however and you cannot blame players as they just play.   

Lily is a professional player.  She made money at the tournament.  That is the bottom line.  She also probably had a lot of publicity to do and videos to shoot as the tournament sponsor is her sponsor.  She lost to Amy Wang.  So what?  She has a solid record and will be back.  Also as a professional player she is probably trying to peak for specific tournaments and maybe this wasn't one of them.  I personally would expect Lily to win, but she finished top 4.  Good for her and on to the next event. 
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