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Originally posted by E.ZegnaFan E.ZegnaFan wrote:

Look at your blade's photos. Dark color = Meranti, Light color = Chinese Basswood Smile



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Xiom Offensive S? I thought that was the same composition as Korbel. It was a nice answer for me back when I was complaining about Korbel being too head heavy, and had a larger handle. However, I still really wish I had never sold my Korbel.
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Xiom Offensive S? I thought that was the same composition as Korbel. It was a nice answer for me back when I was complaining about Korbel being too head heavy, and had a larger handle. However, I still really wish I had never sold my Korbel.

Thanks. I've read some reviews, and it seems the Xiom handles are still on the small side (for large European hands). 

I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.
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tabten5,

Is this blade for you btw? Just curious if you're going to an all wood blade b/c I remember when you wrote this:

Originally posted by tabten5 tabten5 wrote:

The reason I love the Maze is that it is compositionally identical to the Donic Waldner Senso, one of my favourite blades of all time, except for the necessary addition of ALC. You can still feel the ayous/limba combination. My touch game hasn't been this good since 1998 - I feel young again!

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Originally posted by tabten5 tabten5 wrote:

I've read some reviews, and it seems the Xiom handles are still on the small side (for large European hands).


You've read the wrong reviews. Xiom handles are probably the biggest available on the market, esp., the Novus series. Offensive S is a relatively thick blade without flex, nothing in common with Korbel or Primorac.
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I've got a Xiom Fuga and it's flared handle would be ideal for a player with a large hand.

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Isn't the Xiom Maximus pretty much what you are looking for?
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[/QUOTE] I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.[/QUOTE]

Me too. Someone tell Donic to make an Appelgren Offplay.

And giver me free Donic rubber for life - for giving this new name "Offplay"  Tongue


Edited by Snakefish - 03/02/2014 at 1:26am
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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.


Me too. Someone tell Donic to make an Appelgren Offplay.

And giver me free Donic rubber for life - for giving this new name "Offplay"  Tongue
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How do you make the ALLPLAY - into offensive - by adding a layer of Carbon? Don't they have Appelgren with dotec handles not what speed that one is rated at though.
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Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.


Me too. Someone tell Donic to make an Appelgren Offplay.

And giver me free Donic rubber for life - for giving this new name "Offplay"  Tongue
How do you make the ALLPLAY - into offensive - by adding a layer of Carbon? Don't they have Appelgren with dotec handles not what speed that one is rated at though.
[/QUOTE]

Those Dotec handles feel comfortable, but..........

Good idea to just stick some carbon layers into the Applegren Allplay and you've got Offplay. It's so simple, eh ?

After that Donic can create Appelgren Foreplay   Shocked

Yes, I am still talking about blades here. What else was I talking about ?  forehand ?
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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

Originally posted by jrscatman jrscatman wrote:

Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.


Me too. Someone tell Donic to make an Appelgren Offplay.

And giver me free Donic rubber for life - for giving this new name "Offplay"  Tongue
How do you make the ALLPLAY - into offensive - by adding a layer of Carbon? Don't they have Appelgren with dotec handles not what speed that one is rated at though.

Those Dotec handles feel comfortable, but..........

Good idea to just stick some carbon layers into the Applegren Allplay and you've got Offplay. It's so simple, eh ?

After that Donic can create Appelgren Foreplay   Shocked

Yes, I am still talking about blades here. What else was I talking about ?  forehand ?


Good idea ....maybe they can start a new division....DONIXXX!


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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

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I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.[/QUOTE]

Me too. Someone tell Donic to make an Appelgren Offplay.

And giver me free Donic rubber for life - for giving this new name "Offplay"  Tongue
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They already make it, it's called the Persson Powerplay, 5.9mm 7 ply. Or just put faster rubbers on the allplay Wink
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An Allplay with carbon????
 
Geez, Donic has done that....
 
It's called Waldner Senso Carbon. Read the official description of WSC.
 
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I certainly did not ask for an Allplay with carbon - I'm aware the WSC is intended for that.

As above, I'd like an offensive, all-wood version of the Allplay. Or, to put it differently, a Korbel with a bigger handle.
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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

tabten5,

Is this blade for you btw? Just curious if you're going to an all wood blade b/c I remember when you wrote this:

Originally posted by tabten5 tabten5 wrote:

The reason I love the Maze is that it is compositionally identical to the Donic Waldner Senso, one of my favourite blades of all time, except for the necessary addition of ALC. You can still feel the ayous/limba combination. My touch game hasn't been this good since 1998 - I feel young again!

Fill us in on your journey Smile

I have a love/hate relationship with carbon blades. They make my looping better, and they're addictive in that regard, but in just about every other way my game suffers when using them, and especially on touch shots. The Maze is very good within its class, but it's still very poor on touch compared to, say, a Korbel. 

I've realised that I do not lose points because my loop drives are not fast or spinny enough, but because my serve returns or touch shots drift too long or too high. I need to feel the ball.
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tabten5,

Understood, thanks. I was interested b/c I know you're a higher level player than myself and we've enjoyed some of the same blades (Maze and WSC for example).

Sorry if you've already answered this.. have you tried Virtuoso? I know it's not a ayous middle ply... might be what you're looking for though. 

Otherwise, I'd have Ross make something.
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btw I have a 91-92 gram Virtuoso (OFF-) in SQST I'd be willing to send you for testing if you're interested. 
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Originally posted by tabten5 tabten5 wrote:

Thanks. I've read some reviews, and it seems the Xiom handles are still on the small side (for large European hands). 

I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.

I think I have the answer -- the Yasaka Allround Plus is made in the same factory as the Appelgren Allplay.  Has to be faster than it though.  My buddy is selling one.  I'll ask him to let me rubber it up and give it a go.  


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Originally posted by king_pong king_pong wrote:

Originally posted by tabten5 tabten5 wrote:

Thanks. I've read some reviews, and it seems the Xiom handles are still on the small side (for large European hands). 

I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.

I think I have the answer -- the Yasaka Allround Plus is made in the same factory as the Appelgren Allplay.  Has to be faster than it though.  My buddy is selling one.  I'll ask him to let me rubber it up and give it a go.  

According to OOAK Yasaka ALL+ is 5 Ply Aspen. No Limba/Ayous

http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=7194



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Originally posted by the_theologian the_theologian wrote:

btw I have a 91-92 gram Virtuoso (OFF-) in SQST I'd be willing to send you for testing if you're interested. 

That's really kind, but I'm hesitant over 'custom' brands - I have no idea how they play, and have never seen a high-level player use them. They might just be due to market penetration, but it nevertheless makes me nervous.

I really do think there is a gap in the market for one of the 'mainstream' manufacturers to exploit.
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Originally posted by riker71 riker71 wrote:

Originally posted by king_pong king_pong wrote:

Originally posted by tabten5 tabten5 wrote:

Thanks. I've read some reviews, and it seems the Xiom handles are still on the small side (for large European hands). 

I actually just wish Donic or Yasaka (both handles and brands I like a lot) made an offensive limba-ayous blade without a bloody senso handle. Or, in other words, an offensive version of the Appelgren Allplay.

I think I have the answer -- the Yasaka Allround Plus is made in the same factory as the Appelgren Allplay.  Has to be faster than it though.  My buddy is selling one.  I'll ask him to let me rubber it up and give it a go.  

According to OOAK Yasaka ALL+ is 5 Ply Aspen. No Limba/Ayous

http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=7194


That information is definitely false.  I've even held one in my hand and examined it.  Core is definitely Ayous.  Outer ply is definitely Limba (see image from above link).  The medial ply is darker, so I imagine it is a ply of harder dark limba (possibly meranti, but I'm not aware of Yasaka using that wood in other blades). 


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