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Kolev 
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 Posted: 11/25/2011 at 2:49pm |
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Exactly what I meant.......I am happy you understood my completely mixed up comment
 . ...Stupid of me not to check what I've written    Ha ha ha . Never again |
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Rainer87
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Posted: 11/25/2011 at 3:12pm |
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Thats ok!
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racquetsforsale
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Posted: 11/25/2011 at 9:29pm |
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Rainer87,
Though wrist action is an important component of any BH topspin stroke, I think it's even more important to control the amount of wrist action, especially in the follow-through, according to the type of stroke and your ability to control your wrist. For his stroke in the first video of your post, notice Ma Long doesn't allow his wrist to extend or radially deviate excessively in his follow-through. In fact, he actually arrests his wrist from doing so. When incorporating the forearm into the stroke, like Ma Long is doing in the video, as opposed to using the wrist predominantly, as when flipping like Zhang Ji Ke in the pictures, remember to let the elbow and forearm movement lead and guide the release of the wrist. Don't concentrate on the wrist movement to the point that it takes over the swing from the elbow and forearm. |
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Rainer87
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Posted: 11/27/2011 at 3:37pm |
I think controlling follow-through is the hardest part of this shot, for me anyway. So you are saying that elbow and forearm movement is more important in the stroke than wrist. When practising last time I was trying to think like this: Most important is that I must cock my wrist, if I do that then the wrist action comes to play naturally, if I dont, then it doesnt, because it is in neutral position were I cant use it. After cocking my wrist the movement start with shoulder and elbow, then forearm and at last wrist and follow-through. Am I in the right path? |
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kenneyy88
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Posted: 11/27/2011 at 5:07pm |
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Yea backswing, bring elbow in front, then bring your forearm back and then cock your wrist. Then lead your elbow and forearm forward and then release the wrist.
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V-Griper
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Posted: 11/28/2011 at 6:28pm |
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The only observations I have are of your torso posture and position.
Pretend you are hugging a barrel big enough that your hands can't touch each other and round your back between the shoulder blades. Then pretend you have to lean forward at the waist because the barrel is heavy. I can see that you are already doing a little bit of this already, however I do not think you are rounding your back enough or leaning forward enough. Look carefully at ML slowmo as he prepares to hit his backhand and compare it to yours. Here comes the hard part. It is clear, in the first video, that LGL is telling ML that he needs get more power from a waist turn rather than straightening up his torso. I think that this is accomplished by first "folding" and then "unfolding" at the inguinal crease. This is the inside of the hip joint where the upper leg meets the groin. So once you are hugging the barrel and leaning forward pretend you are going to sit on a chair with your left butt cheek only, and turning to the left as you do this. You should see that your left thigh is closer to your waist than your right thigh(your inguinal crease is "folded". This is the loaded position. do everything in reverse to execute the stroke. Push off with your left leg as if you are standing up while turning to the right slightly(inguinal crease is "unfolding". Try to get a elastic feeling from your left hip to your arm as if they were connected with a thick rubber band. Snap!! Instant ML backhand. Instant=200,000 repetitions.  |
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Lau_hb
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Posted: 11/28/2011 at 7:09pm |
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Something I think may help you and that you should try to keep constant in your shots. To keep yourself going forward with your backhand you should be carefull not to bring your elbow closer to your body as you finish your shot. Making sure you don't do that will keep you from going sideways and upwards too much with your BH and will greatly improve your shot.
Note that you could also be doing that because of lack of footwork when the ball comes to your elbow. If it's the case, making sure you always hit the ball straight in front of you will fix that little problem. Beside that I think everything has been said, good looking shot in my opinion!
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