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timtex37
Super Member Joined: 10/19/2005 Location: Zhongshan-China Status: Offline Points: 179 |
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Posted: 02/25/2007 at 9:46pm |
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone have any good pointer or videos that I should watch to improve my serve receiving skills cause it sucks. I have a big problem returning top-spin serves with my backhand and it is pretty bad with my forehand as well. Especially when it is short top spin. Thanks. |
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hieupham
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I ve been playing with a 2000-ish Japanese guy, who play J-penhold. Everytime I do top-spin serve, he returns it with a long traditional bh push, maybe with a little sidespin push, to the far side of my fh, and sometimes it does put me in trouble. I dont know if that works for u, just a reference.
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varghesep
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I played with a chineese player who did the same to me. To win the game he did the same all the time, but right now that kind of long pushes is not a problem for me. I loop and that take care of it. Learn looping the balls.
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timtex37
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thanks for the advices
First of all, I'm a penholder so unless i use rpb, i can't loop with my backhand if it is topspin long and high to my back hand, then, i can try to use the rpb but when it is topspin and short or low, i'm forced to do a push which makes the ball fly high for my opponent to smash or attack. |
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hieupham
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oh, I was mentioning about traditional BH push, just like what Ryu Seung Min or Li Ching do all the times. From what I ve seen, pushing with side spin will make the ball flies lower, and if u re good enough, u can even cause ur opponents trouble getting the ball back.
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alink91
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here are my 4 solutions in order from best to worse. All three work. 1. Learn RPB, thats what I did
2. step around with fh, you gotta do it to get better
3. bh trad push quick off the bounce
4. chop block.
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Swiff
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I suggest pushing it if it comes to your backhand. Why can't you loop it if it comes to your forhand? You would think it would be easy to loop a topspin serve that comes to your FH
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mardim
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Just block it with the traditional bh block but close the angle a little bit. relax the thumb and push it forward while blocking it.
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Swiff
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Hey! I already told him to push it!!! So push off!!! lol j/k
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tthj2
Member Joined: 01/16/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Personally I find it best to loop it back with rpb using lot of wrist and the arm; one may miss initially but it's a good way to dial in your rpb. Also, a good opportunity to practice returning shots by using different racket angles and motions to create side spin returns. |
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stephen chung
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The position I stand while receiving serve is about the same as Ryu Seung Meng but maybe abit closer to the table. I try to drive the ball back when top spin is serve to my BH.
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Ksix
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What if he happens to be a klassischez penholder ?
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stephen chung
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What is klassischez penholder?
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Adib
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hmmm,for me I just using bh push and place the ball at the backhand oppenent
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jasonz
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use rpb for long top spin (more hitting than looping), use rpb flip shot for short top spin, I don't like pushing because then your opponent will start attacking
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timtex37
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Thanks jasons and everyone else. I think jasonz's suggestion sound good for me to try, I just have to play more and try those shots until I can actually get it.
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loop+loop
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Refering to no.3: It's a top spin serve, why would you want to take it quick off the bounce?
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redknight15
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I am a c pen holder... for me try using Rpb..... and hit the ball at 1 oclock angle...more arm and wrist... do a multi ball for this... and I asure you it will work |
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azrin
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first and foremost you have to be comfortable with your grip for those kind of shots timtex37...
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timtex37
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What you mean?
I am learning rpb now, I can hit pretty well during pratice but during game, I always forget to move and can't grasp the position of the ball due to its top or side spin and cause me to miss those shots often |
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