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Olio
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There is also a concept of time in this answer.
My first coach used to say "you practice your weak points during the season breaks and your strong points during the competitive season". Which means when you're in a competition, your strong points are well and truely ready and effective. When the season is over, give your whole game a lift by working more on the weaker areas. Of course if you have the chance to put in a lot of practice you can do both.
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APW46
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It really depends on so many things, there can be no general answer, but I always work around the question of what is the intended goal, what is the level of the player in question, and how much time/commitment is there going to be to training.
Many players have a stronger technique on one wing than the other but don't work enough on how to apply it, instead they chase it too much. If a player has such a weakness in technique that it is often the sole reason they lose or cannot progress, then the answer speaks for itself. When I was developing my own game I liked to work on everything, so I got to a standard where players had to actually beat me, rather than I lose myself through inconsistency. 99% of players don't work on service/return enough, so when they play an opponent who has, they have a glaring massive weakness. Use self questions like this; Has he got a good serve, or are my returns poor? Are my serves poor, or does he return well? questioning yourself like this helps you to identify your own weaknesses and act accordingly.
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jrscatman
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Some really great suggestions in this thread. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
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In our area there are two main coaches. One is Sean O'Neil and the other is Tim Aikey. The two coaches are completely different. One of my practice partners goes to both coaches. Sean O'Neil is the perfectionist whereas Tim Aikey is more pragmatic or compliant. I use Tim for a couple of reasons. I am 60 years old so trying to make my strokes 'perfect' is futile not that they are that bad. When I started with Tim I wanted to approach the problem like an engineer, naturally. In other words start with the biggest flaws first or what we would call low hanging fruit. Essentially this means getting past the first four strokes of a rally. As APW46 mentioned serve and serve returns are very important because all rallies start with them. That is where we started and the main focus for 10 months now. Tim has very nasty serves. He practices his new ones against me. In club round robin play I have been made essentially immune to serves and that is one of the goals. Once I get past the first four strokes my relative strength increases a lot because I really do think like a chess player and think in terms of maneuvering my opponent out of position more than just raw speed.
I have told my coach to not hold back and treat me like another 2100+ player even though I am not. I am not even close but I try to make my coach work for each point. If I make a good serve return he knows he will have to work for the point. I don't ask for mercy and I give none. For the most part he waits for me to self destruct but often I surprise him. I am very good at analyzing things He doesn't have to tell me much. If my coach wins a lot of points the same way it is obvious to me I must adapt and learn how to adapt. I also know my coaches weaknesses. My problem is that I have to execute to take advantage of them and that is hard to do. At first I had to adapt to his massive top spin but not that I have I can block or counter hit much of the time. This approach would not work for a young kid that needs to be spoon fed. I would like to take a lesson or two from Sean O'Neil just to see what he thinks but I have been told his schedule is full. I am 60 years old. I don't like drills in the normal sense. I do drills to lean how to create a weakness and usually I can do that with a robot. In real life everything is chaos and the goal is to impose you chaos on the opponent before he imposes his on you but I realize that to impose my chaos on the opponent that I have to execute. |
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Whang
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I guess another good way to put this question is would you rather be so good at one skill and poor at the rest, or be a jack of all trades but a master of none |
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Baal
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Let me as a closely related practical question: how do people who don't have access to coaching improve a weak stroke?
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APW46
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The best way is to film it and be self critical.
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vvk1
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That's exactly what I do. I also ask better players after losing to them - what is the single thing, in their opinion, I should work on to improve.
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APW46
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Yep
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Baal
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Yes I think this is the only way. Otherwise all you will do is reinforce the bad habits. |
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