Please Critique

ttguy wrote: The whole USATT rating system is so dump. I know that some of people even default the game to avoid losing points. Some coaches even intentionally give one or two game to students to raise their points. Some people even go to low-rating event to easily get points. It is really suck.

The rating system is just that - "the ratings". Unless they are calculated in some illogical or unhealthy manner, favoring some special interests, or have some obvious mistakes in them, there is nothing wrong in any of them.

The fact that people abuse these systems or worship them so much that they do these unsavory things you described doesn't make the ratings any more (or less) meaningful.

Blaming ratings for the things that people do is like saying that Kenneth Lay was a crook because he liked large numbers (of dollars) and therefore, numbers (and arithmetic) are to blame for the Enron fraud.

Same goes for more complicated stuff - like stock options pricing using Black-Sholes model and Brownian motion differential equations. Going into sophisticated derivatives was one of the things contributing to the financial crisis but the culprit here is not mathematics but old as dirt human vice of avarice.

Anyway, I hope you got my point...

LOL, thanks for also being racist! apparently your just another no name duche bag that likes to talk trash. reguardless of my rating i can beat you. stop talking trash and post a vid nancy boy or better yet just NANCY! go play tiddly winks or something you mite actually b good at.

sry dude, i really didnt notice till after that last post. I'm done talking to the chinese banana!

figgie wrote: benfb wrote: The Ratings Central system is mathematically superior to the system used at USATT, but we'd still have the same problems about people obsessing on ratings, manipulating the system, geographic variations, etc. Of course, all this discussion is theoretical.  It is hard for me to imagine that USATT will make any changes in their rating system.   I am going to disagree.   mathematically it is DIFFERENT.   What I can tell you is that RC is deflationary over time. In the end, the state of Minnesota uses it for establishing seed and nothing more   If you look at RC, we are all a bunch of 1800 players. with a couple of 2000 level players. Ming is 2300. Thor is around high 2200. Mitch is mid 2200. Lots of mid 2000 players etc. Ofouse RC does not show that ;)

lol oka the vids will be up shortly. also some vids hopefully of the alabama teams tourney...my first tournament.

Jonan wrote: They do a couple things very nicely, but ultimately, an untrained adult player would have faster, spinier loops than trained children. Their little counter hit style isn't effective against adults.

whoops, meant to quote barnabas, but anyways...sorry.

LobbedYoud0wn wrote: i know this isn't the main point of the thread, but why are people in this thread talking as if usatt 1800-1900 is the pinnacle of achievement? i know a few people on here who are well above that level but it seems as if its the holy grail in this thread, regardless of if barnabas is 18 or 42 for example... in MD, NJ/NY, CA, 1700-2000 juniors are run of the mill just my input

Well by all accounts his rating is incredibly inflated thanks to his demographic. That aside, that is the point of many of the posters - 1900 USATT is pretty average. It's really annoying when someone thinks they are top stuff for a mediocre achievement. It's even better when there is a video disproving everything they say.