Pls, suggest me a nittaku blade

You can buy it in table tennis11.

geswin wrote: You can buy it in table tennis11. I believe nittaku blades has one of the best quality, feel and touch. I might be wrong or biased though. Accoustic is off-, violin is rather off- to all+. I never played with rutis. Barwell is off but quite thick, barwell fleet is the current best I think great feedback and speed/control ratio but still 6.2mm you wont like it.  So what do you want to know about nittaku blades? Some say violin is better for smashing than accoustic, but my accoustic is also quite decent for smashing. Both blades are really good at looping, and i have to tell you among my blades(still under 20 though) nittaku blades have the best feedback and touch.

If you need feel go with acoustic , the best feeling blade of all time. And by feel i dont mean vibration , it has minimal vibration not like cheap all wood .

Well, there is large handle for accoustic and violin though. the large handle also feels very good.

peter79 wrote: I suggest you to choose heavy Violin Large handle from Tabletennis11.com I got 2 heaviest, 93.5 and 93 gr. Total setup is 186 gr with side tape. I glue 8 layers of Latex water base glue on H3 National blue sponge 2.2 mm untuned. And I put 4 layers of Latex water base glue on Tenergy 64 2.1 mm The blue sponge that I got is less tacky, it's very good even untuned. This blade has all of the control that I need, it's my main weapon right now. I use Violin at competition today, I win 3-2 from 0-2 down, against Short pips on Backhand guy. Tomorrow I will face a Cpen short pips with inverted rubber on backhand. I hope I would advance to later stages of the competition

Latika is 5.8mm thick. Mine is 83g but you can ask for the weight you prefer.

frogger wrote: One blade everyone is forgetting here is Nittaku Runlox-5. OFF soft blade supreme for topspin and control.

Avalox 500 is just $39
http://ttnpp.com/store/avalox/523-avalox-p500.html

can you compare hhao 656 with acoustic? 

kurokami wrote: violin is a very light blade with great flex and dwell time. it is more stiff but softer than the acoustic.

I beg to disagree: IMO Violin is more flexible and harder than Acoustic. Besides during play, this is also apparent from the the pitch of Violin being lower at the ball bounce test, and the outer ply being Ash vs Limba.

Actually, I've played with all four Violin, Acoustic, Tenor, and Latika.

IMHO, Violin is a balanced, flexible ALL+/OFF- blade with hard feeling (for being all-wood) but plenty of dwell time. It can produce an insane amount of spin, but it is flexible, so if you want fast shots, you have to provide your own power. It superb for a wide range of shots, including loops, chops and soft blocks, but on hard blocks and flat hits you may miss the directional precision of stiffer blades. It's best indicated for playing close to the table. It has a very distinct feel, some may say it vibrates much, but I feel coming back to the Violin because I like the feeling best among all the all wood blades I've tested so far, and I've tested many. The feeling and stiffness are extremely consistent, rather independently from the blade weight (over the years, I've owned 5, ranging from 80 to 88g), which hints at a painstaking selection of materials and control of the manufacturing process by Nittaku.

Acoustic is a head-heavy, OFF- blade with a soft feel that is still rather flexible, but less than Violin. It's a two-wings loopers blade, better suited for aggressive medium-distance play. It is less suitable for defensive play than Violin. As it is still rather flexible, this is really a blade for aggressive spin play, also missing out some directional precision with respect to stiffer blades. The feel is super-smooth, some even say it's muted.

Nittaku started producing Violin and Acoustic in 2003-2004 (Violin came first, Acoustic was initially called Violin 2). Some years later, they changed the emblem at the butt of the handle from the nailed black and brass tag ("old" models) to the polished, hexagonal, brass ("golden") tag ("new" models).
Old and new Violins have the same plies of identical thickness.
Old and new Acoustics differ: the core layer and the blade thickness is the same, but while the old Acoustic had a thin outer and thicker medial ply, the new one has both outer and medial plies of the same thickness. Some say the feeling of the older Acoustic is better. I can't say, because I only played with the old model.

Then came Tenor. Not sure on what year, but it makes sense to guess that Tenor was made as response to the speed glue ban. Tenor is constructively identical to the new Acoustic, the only difference is a thicker core ply. Tenor has thus a similar feeling than Acoustic, but is both stiffer and faster.

Latika is said by some to be as fast as Acoustic but with a feeling similar to Violin. Instead, I found Latika to be more head-heavy and less flexible than both Acoustic and Violin, and actually more similar to Tenor in terms of speed and stiffness.

Acoustic and Violin have a relatively small blade face. Latika has a larger blade face, it's a slighly oversized version of Nittaku's Kasumi Basic.


Edited by arg0 - 12/17/2013 at 5:22pm

please I need a comparison acoustic with hking655 and hhao656

aeoliah wrote: I prefer Violin (I have both Acoustic and Violin). Violin has a harder feel. Peter, how was the competition going ? I wish you luck !

Well after I manage to go though the knock out stage, I face a Cpen who use Dr Neubauer Monster on his forehand and Palio inverted rubber guy.
I lost to him, he is a better player, pretty hard to play against pips. When I slow loop he block the ball with his pips very high the return, when I smash it goes to net, I know my mistake after the match, I must smash as if the ball goes out, must open the angle more.
Well it's a lesson for me to learn

"underpower" is a vague statement: a lot depends on your level, your expectations and the rubbers you glue on them. When the Violin is in the hands of my coach, I never feel it's underpowered... Ma Long did not feel the Acoustic was underpowered, although that was in the age of speed glueing. As I wrote, today those blades are better suited for close to mid-distance play and you have to add your own power.

It is true argo. The blade speed is not so fast, accoustic would be off minus and violin would be in the bridge between all plus to off minus.
Me myself doesnt feel that accoustic is underpowered but its just depends on the one who play with it. I agree with you argo. Rubber plays lot of factor in term of speed.

peter79 wrote: I suggest you to choose heavy Violin Large handle from Tabletennis11.com I got 2 heaviest, 93.5 and 93 gr. Total setup is 186 gr with side tape. I glue 8 layers of Latex water base glue on H3 National blue sponge 2.2 mm untuned. And I put 4 layers of Latex water base glue on Tenergy 64 2.1 mm The blue sponge that I got is less tacky, it's very good even untuned. This blade has all of the control that I need, it's my main weapon right now. I use Violin at competition today, I win 3-2 from 0-2 down, against Short pips on Backhand guy. Tomorrow I will face a Cpen short pips with inverted rubber on backhand. I hope I would advance to later stages of the competition

Thomasson wrote: I have some old model violins for sale if you are interested ;) Better feel and quality then new blades.

In what respect are they better? Just curious, because I did not notice any difference in feel and quality of the new Violins with respect to the old ones.

Instead, there are constructive differences between the old and new Acoustics (in new models, outer and medial plies are the same thickness, while in the old model, the outer ply is thinner and the medial is thicker; core and overall thickness are the same), which may justify differences in feel and playing characteristics.