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Topic: Pictures of your ONE-Ply Hinoki Blade...
Posted By: T h e N A M
Subject: Pictures of your ONE-Ply Hinoki Blade...
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 4:49am
i just wanted to see other people's one ply hinoki blade...



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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 4:52am
Darker Speed90 Jpen (10mm)
 
 


Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 4:53am
Darker Speed90 Cpen (8.5mm)
 
 


Posted By: varghesep
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 9:06am
Are these hand made?


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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 2:42pm
good question!!
 
To me they seem antique collectors items.


Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 2:54pm

i believe darker's one-ply hinoki blades are hand made...



Posted By: Mr. Cermet
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 3:53pm
Butterfly Cypress Alpha (my old Blade)



My new Xiom Athena Gold Ryu Seung Min Special ( I make at next Time Pictures from the very good Grain by my Ryu Special)







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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 4:07pm

RSM just looks BEAUTIFUL....

i think my speed90 would look better if they had logo on the grip..
 
since you're using xiom blade,
 
have you tried any xiom rubbers? like omega 1 or 2..?


Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 5:34pm

looks nice. cd you upload some videos of you playing with that blade?



Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 5:38pm

I think the Darkers u've there have been to "hell" many times! What in the heaven name did u do to them. I know they r supposed to be workhorses but the "abuses" they endured must be just incredible....eh?

Just on aside, these are my favourite jpens. 2 of them belong to my 2 bros. but I get to see them once in a while when they drop by to have few games with me.
 
http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/10083898780-1189632685-88427/ - http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/10083898780-1189632685-88427/


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Posted By: Wawaicetea123
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 6:55pm
yea the cheng piang lung is my favorite jpen to

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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:00pm
what's so special about jpen and single ply? why do they go hand in hand and others not?


Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:05pm


Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:05pm


Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:07pm
the 10mm rorin is the best grained blade i own.and it is only 74 grams!?!


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:15pm
oh..my o my....when Ryno speaks, little ppl listen. 74g?! By the time u finished the neck-shaving/sanding job, it'd be like 72g or so! Can't wait to hear how it plays/compares to the Kokutaku u r currently using!
Btw, good shaving/sanding jobs for the all the "passers-by"!


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by debraj debraj wrote:

what's so special about jpen and single ply? why do they go hand in hand and others not?
Can't really describe for u tho', it's very individual thing, u've to experience/experiment urself to find out. For me, it's all good, whatevr seeps into ur palm, ur hand r good n sweet!

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Posted By: kingnike12
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:43pm



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Posted By: kingnike12
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:44pm




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Posted By: kingnike12
Date Posted: 10/01/2007 at 7:46pm
My Darker speed 90. I use xiom omega I max. Awesome rubber and the feel of the blade is great.




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Posted By: kingnike12
Date Posted: 10/02/2007 at 3:14am
hey theNAM, how long have you had your darker 90? It seems that you've put a lot of hours on it

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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/02/2007 at 5:16am
TheNAM, you should bring your blade to the hospital ...Cry
Ryno, can you please post the topside of the Rorin (the thickness of the blade)? 74 grams .... I think it is the record.


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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 10/02/2007 at 10:44am
yea... the speed90 cpen wasn't actually mine..
 
one of my friend switched to shakehand and lend me his cpen...
 
 


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/02/2007 at 11:37am

Appropriately, there should be a separate topic for "Injured or mutilated 1 ply hinoki jpens or shakehands"

@Aeoliah, 74g Rorin 10mm is indeed rare. Even lighter than my Nittaku Cho. Ryno also posted a pic. of two brand new Kokutakus, wonder what weights they r.


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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/02/2007 at 3:29pm
They are over 80 gramsWink

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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 7:07pm
okay how do you post photos?


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 7:25pm

Don't use this "Quick reply" box @ the bottom. Use the "Reply" icon on the right side of the thread.

Click the "Camera" button....Wait a few secs. n a box/window would come up on ur left, browse n select ur jpeg n another box/window would come up on ur right....Click OK..Post ur pic. n later "update"....Try it n it's not that difficult but remember to keep ur jpeg under 200 kB first.

Or go to http://www.imageshack.com - www.imageshack.com , post it there n copy the link n paste the link here @ ur reply.


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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 7:28pm
thanks :)


Posted By: jinhocha
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 10:35pm
Ha... that CPen of Darker 90 is mine...ha..ha... I have been using it during my training from Chinese coach for 1  1/2 years.  It was very hard training...I had to take at least 3,000 box balls during first 30-40min without any pause, and had to go through 1 on 1 training for rest of an hour and a half training time.  You would not believe what I and my blade went through... those scars were my awards...even if you thought it had been abused for a long time... Only 1 1/2 years...man... it was very hard...  :)

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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/03/2007 at 11:11pm
OMG, very impressive! If I were you, I would keep it for old time's sake.



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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 10/04/2007 at 4:11am
where r the shakehands?!?!?!?!?!!?

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Posted By: jinhocha
Date Posted: 10/04/2007 at 4:30pm
Yeah...aeoliah... I will... I just let him use it for a while... it was a part of my memory..

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Posted By: Mr. Cermet
Date Posted: 10/13/2007 at 1:07pm




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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 5:23am
You shaved the blade a lot ! I have one question though : when you hold the blade do your thumb and forefinger touch the rubber ? I used to add a bit more cork sheet so the distance is more or less 25 mm. This is to avoid my fingers from touching the rubber.

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Posted By: Mr. Cermet
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 5:52am

Yes I doSmile!


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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 4:51pm
http://www.mytabletennis.com/forum/uploads/New/20071014_165423_galaxy_jpen.jpg - uploads/New/20071014_165423_galaxy_jpen.jpg
 
Here is a pic of one of my galaxy jpen one ply hinoki's.


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Posted By: Shmo
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 5:08pm
I didn't realize Galaxy made a 1 ply hinoki wood blade.  How much is the Jpen and does Galaxy make a 1 ply hinoki shakehand?


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

http://www.mytabletennis.com/forum/uploads/New/20071014_165423_galaxy_jpen.jpg - uploads/New/20071014_165423_galaxy_jpen.jpg
 
Here is a pic of one of my galaxy jpen one ply hinoki's.
Cole, how thick is it? How heavy is it? And lastly how much is it?

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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 7:24pm
I have 3. The two best I am asking $45.  On one of them the grains run at an angle of about 70 degrees as opposed to 90.  They're straight, just at an angle.  I'm only going to ask $30 for that one.
 
They're not especially light at 105-108g.  But that's how all the one ply's I've ever gotton are in any brand.  They look to be 9mm.


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Posted By: Shmo
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 7:44pm
Wow....that's pretty heavy!  I don't suppose there's any chance Galaxy makes a shakehand version and is sub 90 grams?


Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 7:58pm
Nice grain ! No wonder Tiehwen asked three questions at the same time Wink

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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 8:15pm
Looks like this is the Kinda Jpen which is extremely affordable, abusable, whackable, dingable n u-can-do-whatever-u-wanna-do-to-it n wouldn't feel sorry for/abt it. It's just too bad this doesn't come in at around 90s grams.
I had not noticed that Cole has somethings like this 1 all along!


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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 9:37pm
well, if you don't do rpb i guess it wouldnt matter.  I wonder how the dimensions compare?  maybe it's longer or wider than some?

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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 9:44pm
My Nittaku Cho Tokusen A :
Total length 255 mm
Length from the end of  the blade face to the end of the handle : 160 mm
Width :130 mm.


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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/14/2007 at 10:27pm
Mines 165 from the tip of handle, 135 across.  Maybe that's part of the weight difference?  Is yours smaller than most do you think?

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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 6:33am
My Kokutaku:
Total : 254 mm.
From the end of the handle : 164 mm
Width : 134 mm.

Both my Kokutaku (10 mm) and my Nittaku (9mm) has the same weight : 80 grams.
I think the weight has something to do with the wood quality also, and not only dependant on the size.


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Posted By: Francis
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 8:30am
I have a 1-ply blade in my collection, I don't play with it : it's an Armstrong one from the 80's
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Posted By: Mr. Cermet
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 8:32am
My Xiom Athena Gold RSM Special
Total : 257 mm.
From the end of the handle : 162 mm
Width : 135 mm
Weight: 96,5 g.


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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 9:06am
It seems like the galaxy may be a bit longer than some, explaining at least a couple grams of the weight.

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Posted By: Blockade
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 11:04am
Originally posted by Francis Francis wrote:

I have a 1-ply blade in my collection, I don't play with it : it's an Armstrong one from the 80's
Bois%20Armstrong%201%20pli%20Hinoki
 
Looks like it's an Armstrong Castilian Style.  1-ply and heavy.  I have one that's almost 100g.


Posted By: jpenlover
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 12:32pm



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Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 12:34pm



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Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 1:17pm


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 1:27pm
r u ready to say goodbye to that 1 soon, ryno? u know there r jpen fanatics/ppl here drooling on that 1.Big%20smile

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Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 2:08pm
actually that is a different one it weighs 79 grams and yes it is 10mm


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 2:12pm

Aeoliah should be excited to see/know that..@ least I'm. Ur search is finally over. I guess.



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Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 2:21pm


Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 2:24pm
this is the backside of that rorin i find it strange it is not painted/silk screened black.


Posted By: everest81
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 2:30pm
i wish there were Jpen players in my club, i just want to try out once :)

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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 10/16/2007 at 2:57pm
Originally posted by ryno ryno wrote:

this is the backside of that rorin i find it strange it is not painted/silk screened black.

You must have gotten the Asian market edition or something like that.  Usually the collectors like the back that is unpainted (actually without the paintsheet), so they can enjoy viewing wood grains on both sides.  A while ago they also produced this way and the box comes with two paintsheets (one black and one red), so you can decide which color to have.


Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 11:47am
Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Aeoliah should be excited to see/know that..@ least I'm. Ur search is finally over. I guess.



Only a bit, because the difference is only 1 gram, I would not be able to feel it. Besides, if you enlarge the picture, there is a dark line passing the "N" (from Nittaku). I don't like that.


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 11:54am
what's that mean if there is/r dark line(S) like that passing vertically? Some even have distinct color contrasts. say 1 portion is just disproportionally lighter than the other.

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Posted By: Adib
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by aeoliah aeoliah wrote:



Only a bit, because the difference is only 1 gram, I would not be able to feel it. Besides, if you enlarge the picture, there is a dark line passing the "N" (from Nittaku). I don't like that.



What do you mean by this line???


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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by aeoliah aeoliah wrote:

Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

Aeoliah should be excited to see/know that..@ least I'm. Ur search is finally over. I guess.



Only a bit, because the difference is only 1 gram, I would not be able to feel it. Besides, if you enlarge the picture, there is a dark line passing the "N" (from Nittaku). I don't like that.

That dark line is actually two growth lines packed together.  It means an autumn or spring season between two growth years, the tree didn't get enough rain and did not grow much.


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 12:25pm

@Gknight. Very interesting...well, if we look @ jpenlover's new KTS n Cypress Max. there r two quite prominent darker lines on KTS n none on Cmax @ all. The grains look pretty well-packed n uniform. Does that mean CMax's wood is better?

@Jpenlover. For a non-perfectionist like me, I'd prefer that Cypress Max. So distinct, clear n well-balanced as far as its grains go.


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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 12:51pm
My personal opinion is they are all good.  They all have the minimum attributes to be classified as high-quality Hinoki 1-ply Jpens.  Aesthetically one might be more visually pleasing than the other.  But to be perfectly honest, I think for mere mortals like us, we won't be able to tell the difference between the one that has perfectly equal-spaced lines (on left side and right side of the blade) and flawless eyes on the sides from a blade that is less perfect when you play both side-by-side.


Posted By: ryno
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 1:04pm
Actually the pros don't even use as good of blades as some of us have.Look at ryus blade.It is impossible to have a perfect blade unless you grew your hinoki in a lab.It takes hundreds of years for these trees to mature and to get perfect soil and weather for that amount of time is impossible.I think with global warming and polution you will see a decrease in quality lumber as well.


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 1:12pm
Well..that's true as what the pros. use. But since we r all mortals n we dun even play a tiny fraction as good as them. We might as well get the best 'equipment' money can buy or as we can possibly afford. Life is short n lets all go out n play pong....
I'd not throw my racket like RSM did once onto the floor. I'd never abuse my jpen or any of my heavenly blades.


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Posted By: jpenlover
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 1:43pm
Originally posted by tiehwen tiehwen wrote:

@Gknight. Very interesting...well, if we look @ jpenlover's new KTS n Cypress Max. there r two quite prominent darker lines on KTS n none on Cmax @ all. The grains look pretty well-packed n uniform. Does that mean CMax's wood is better?

@Jpenlover. For a non-perfectionist like me, I'd prefer that Cypress Max. So distinct, clear n well-balanced as far as its grains go.

The darker lines on KTS is caused by the excessive oil coming out of the wood. Some people likes this kind of wood and some don't. I really like it and this KTS is the best blade I have ever played (I had owned about 20 or so blades). The CMax has the best grains I have ever seen so I am keeping it as my collection and have no plan to play with it. By the way, the CMax weighs 108 g, which is probably too heavy for me to play with anyway.


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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 2:22pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but while all hinoki is cypress, not all cypress is hinoki right? And not all hinoki is necessarily as good as japanese hinoki. They have a lot of hinoki coming out of oregon but I bet it's not as good.

I say that to ask if that cmax is actually hinoki or just cypress from somwhere else?

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Posted By: jpenlover
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 2:56pm
The CMax is Japanese hinoki. CMax is Butterfly's replacement for Ryu Seung Min after Ryu went with Xiom. Japanese Kiso Hinoki is the best you can get in the world and I don't think hinoki coming out of Oregon can be nearly as good.

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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 3:20pm
Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but while all hinoki is cypress, not all cypress is hinoki right? And not all hinoki is necessarily as good as japanese hinoki. They have a lot of hinoki coming out of oregon but I bet it's not as good.

I say that to ask if that cmax is actually hinoki or just cypress from somwhere else?

Partially correct Smile

More precisely, they are all from the family of Cupressaceae.  The Oregon one is also called Port Orford Cedar and belongs to the specie called Chamaecyparis lawsoniana.  Hinoki is of similar classification, just different spicie, called Chamaecyparis obtusa.  That specie only grows in Japan.

I have a Jpen 1-ply blank made of Port Orford Cedar.  It is lighter and it feels softer than Hinoki.  The grains pattern looks very similar to Hinoki, some areas are much denser.  The smell is very different, not as aromatic and spicy as Hinoki.  The color is much darker too.  This one that I have vibrates a lot.


Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 3:58pm

@ GKnight..man..u sure have done ur homework. Ur presentation probably scored an A+. Ashame to say I've no clue re: all those jagons/names u used. Dang! that 1st paragraph of urs does separate me, a boy from Men.



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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 11:09pm
I have the feeling that the dark line represent a joint which is weaker compared to the other grain line, whilst different shade of colour has nothing to do with the joints at the grain line, so I think it is ok, although aesthethically it is not perfect to look at.
As for the first picture from Jpenlover, I don't like it either.
I would not buy a blade unless I can see it at least from the pictures.  Am I the fussy one ?


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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 10/17/2007 at 11:32pm

Ermmmm...for that huge sum of $ to pay for any of those 3 above, if I were the potential owner/buyer I'd've every right to be "fussy"/scrutinizing every single, fine details...in this case...those jam-packed grains. To be fair, that Cypress Max won over my heart. Heart Even tho' it is chubby.



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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 10/18/2007 at 12:58am
Agreed 100%. For me the Cypress Max has more value compared to the other one.

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Posted By: everest81
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 1:53am
Time to revisit this thread Smile, here's my cho tokusen, i've shaved on the corner a bit and also removed little cork on end of the handle.



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Posted By: everest81
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 1:54am
one more



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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 3:33am
That is my current favourite blade. What is the weight of your Cho Tokusen ?
Mine does not have the red sticker on top of the handle, but on the left side it has a plastic insert, which I don't see in your picture.


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Posted By: sydoz
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 5:44am
Here is my Kokutaku Cho Tokusen  9 mm 83gm. Lines are not straight at the center, but VERY dense.
 


Posted By: rpbnakata
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 7:07am
Here is my Darker Speed 50 Cpen which I turned into a Jpen.
 
http://www -
 
 


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Posted By: everest81
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 10:56am
Originally posted by aeoliah aeoliah wrote:

That is my current favourite blade. What is the weight of your Cho Tokusen ?
Mine does not have the red sticker on top of the handle, but on the left side it has a plastic insert, which I don't see in your picture.

Mine is the old model, which is why i guess there's no plastic insert on the handle. I dunno the weight yet, i guess i should find out Smile


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Posted By: T h e N A M
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 11:19am
Originally posted by rpbnakata rpbnakata wrote:

Here is my Darker Speed 50 Cpen which I turned into a Jpen.
 
um.... GREAT!


Posted By: everest81
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 11:55am
is there any place like homedepot or someplace  where i can weigh in my blade, i don't want to buy a scale just for this. 

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Posted By: everest81
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 2:17pm
ok finally got the weight, its 84 grams.

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Posted By: sydoz
Date Posted: 11/27/2007 at 6:18pm
Originally posted by aeoliah aeoliah wrote:

That is my current favourite blade.
 
Aeoliah, how is your Nittaku Cho-Tokusen compared with your Kokutaku ? I am thinking of getting one myself.


Posted By: flatulenzio
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 6:55am
Her's my JUIC Jupitor!

Thickness 9mm
Width: 131mm
Length (w/out cork): 140mm
Weight: 93gms

PLease ignore the Rest of the edge tape and glue...
(I don't know much about Hinoki 1-plies! What do you think about the grain???)

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/3qa5-1j-jpg.html">

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/3qa5-1k-jpg.html">




Posted By: rpbnakata
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 7:43am

This is my Darker Speed 70:







Then I decided to play shakehands and got this one:






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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 02/12/2009 at 11:50pm

My latest 1 ply "Hinoki" blade, TBS's headsize, Nittaku Septear ST sized handle. Just finished fine-tuning/sanding off all the sharp edges.

 


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Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 02/13/2009 at 9:46am




















Posted By: dimitris
Date Posted: 02/13/2009 at 1:45pm
Just because I saw a very similar POC blade above by tiehwen, I thought I should post photos of my POC 1-ply (made by ryno a year ago):











A lovely blade which plays amazingly well, but at 111gr a bit too heavy for my taste, especially since I like it with heavy chinese rubbers...


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Posted By: dimitris
Date Posted: 02/13/2009 at 2:10pm
And this is my new darker tanpan hinoki 1-ply, which at 86gr is pretty good for my game and is the one I am using right now.









I guess the grains are not as tight as many hinoki fans would like, but the feeling is great, the weight is right and it plays sooo well... :)


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Posted By: dhsu
Date Posted: 02/13/2009 at 2:24pm



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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/13/2009 at 2:32pm
Here is a few pics of my AmericanHinoki one-ply blades

Western Red Cedar 9.5 mm (WRC-9)

http://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/AHWRC9 - http://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/AHWRC9

Western Red Cedar 9.8 mm (WRC-10)

http://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/AHWRC10 - http://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/AHWRC10

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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 5:27pm
Our "Beautiful, happy and friendly" West Coast British Columbia's answer to the shortage of Japanese Kiso Hinoki wood which is used to make our beloved 1 ply Jpens n Shkhnds. Tongue


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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 03/07/2009 at 7:49pm
Nice, Tiehwen, now I know what the tree looks like . Do you have also pictures of Japanese Hinoki ?Thumbs%20Up

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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 1:05am

Donic "Dunno what it is or Whatever U wanna call It", Straight, 1 ply 7mm, 88g. Thumbs%20Up



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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 1:09am
Only the handle is Donic, right? Wink

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Posted By: dimitris
Date Posted: 03/08/2009 at 10:26am
Oooowwww, 7mm, daring, let us know how it withstands the test of time, whether it warps or breaks...

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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 03/27/2009 at 10:23pm

Donic Waldner Power 1 Ply Senso ST., 7.5mm, 92g. Thumbs%20Up



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