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Topic: Eucalyptus oil for speed glue?
Posted By: C.Y.
Subject: Eucalyptus oil for speed glue?
Date Posted: 12/21/2007 at 11:08pm
There is a guy in Australia claimed that Eucalyptus oil can have great speed glue effect.  And once applied, it can last very long and almost like the homemade tensor sponge.  Has anyone ever heard or tried it?  I know Eucalyptus oil is very common in Australia and there are quite a few forum members in Australia.  Any input would be appreciated.



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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 3:13am
I find that claim a little hard to believe... apart from that the smell would be very strongLOL

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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 7:37pm
i do know that some people have said ee tested out to be vegetable oil.

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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 7:44pm
I suppose it is applied on the rubber ?
Then it is good for preventing the rubber from catching cold Wink
Anyhow, why not give it a try on an old rubber ?


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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 7:53pm
even if it works, where are those of us who don't live in OZ gonna find it??


Posted By: sprite
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by takaaki takaaki wrote:

even if it works, where are those of us who don't live in OZ gonna find it??


It's everywhere.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Eucalyptus+oil&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a - http://www.google.com/search?q=Eucalyptus+oil&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


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Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 8:24pm

That guy tried on several rubber sheets.  This picture I believe is the blue sponge hurricane from haggisv.  He applied several thin coat on the sponge (just like when you apply the speed glue), then use regular glue to glue to the blade. 

 


Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 8:36pm
Yasaka mark VM2
 
 


Posted By: T2Russo
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 8:38pm
Even after being wiped, won't it leave a residue as much, if not more, than EE?

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Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 8:43pm
Double-D Eucalyptus oil
 
 
 
 
 
Some old 729 rubber after Eucalyptus oil treatment
 


Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 8:45pm
That guy said Eucalyptus oil is highly volatile.  Unlike cooking oil, you don't need to wait for a long time for it to dry.


Posted By: alfie
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 9:11pm
eucalyptus oil has d-limonene in it and so does speed glueWink

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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 9:14pm
OMG ! Why it is marked "Poison" ? Eucalyptus is commonly used in my country even for infants to keep them warm and for preventing cold.

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Posted By: sprite
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by aeoliah aeoliah wrote:

OMG ! Why it is marked "Poison" ? Eucalyptus is commonly used in my country even for infants to keep them warm and for preventing cold.


It is generally meant to be used as a topical or inhalant, or even  in mouthwash.

Ingesting it in large amounts is dangerous.


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Posted By: patlu08
Date Posted: 12/22/2007 at 11:42pm
humongous domes...

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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 12:06am
Fantastic pictures C.Y. !!! No doubt it domes the rubbers!

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Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 1:06am
Originally posted by alfie alfie wrote:

eucalyptus oil has d-limonene in it and so does speed glueWink
 
Could you give me a link that shows eucalyptus oil has d-limonene in it?
That guy uses 100% pure eucalyptus oil and said its speed glue effect lasts for weeks.  Why d-limonene in eucalyptus oil would last for weeks while it could only last for hours if it is in the regular speed glue?


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 1:26am
Has anyone actually tried it? Does it really work? This can save so much money from speed glue and so muc healthier


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 1:46am
PingPongMadman claims to use olive oil.
This tree sap EE seems believable to me.

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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 3:21am
my god!!! thats unbelievable!!! i might go ebay eucalyptus  oil now!

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Posted By: Kupus
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 7:06am
I think you guys missed something...it seams that treated sponge gained quite some thickness to it, look at the pictures it looks like sponge it selfe is 4mm thick:). I might be wrong....

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Posted By: pongcrazy
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 9:03am
Do you have to try and glue it when its curled up like a burrito or do you wait until the rubber settles back to flat to glue it to your blade???  I have always just fix glued but wanna do some Holiday experiments!
 
pongcrazy


Posted By: Brainstorm69
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 10:33am
Originally posted by Kupus Kupus wrote:

I think you guys missed something...it seams that treated sponge gained quite some thickness to it, look at the pictures it looks like sponge it selfe is 4mm thick:). I might be wrong....
 
I was wondering myself about the thickness of the sponges - hope he started with max, cause they look hugely thick!  Also, arent they going to smell awfully bad (unless you like the strong smell of eucalyptus)?


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Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by pongcrazy pongcrazy wrote:

Do you have to try and glue it when its curled up like a burrito or do you wait until the rubber settles back to flat to glue it to your blade???  I have always just fix glued but wanna do some Holiday experiments!
 
pongcrazy
 
That guy said the rubber won't settle back to flat for weeks.  When you glue it to the blade, use the kind of glue that sticks better and you have to use some heavy book to press it down for 10 or 20 minutes.


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 5:13pm
I think my friend uses this. Does some speed glue have heavy odour? His blade had an unusual odour that was very strong.


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 5:32pm
this way of speed gluing doesn't have clicking sound, yes my friend uses without telling me! omg


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 8:06pm
   the oil contains a limonene-like molecule. what is that oil used for?? medicine??


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 8:08pm
  how can the rubbber  be attached to the blade?


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 8:17pm
You need fair chack


Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 8:25pm
what about stiga victory glue?

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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 8:41pm
Sorry, what I meant was you needed glue to stick it on


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 8:57pm
So, where can we get this oil in USA and Canada?

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Posted By: sprite
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 9:01pm
Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

So, where can we get this oil in USA and Canada?


Originally posted by sprite sprite wrote:

Originally posted by takaaki takaaki wrote:

even if it works, where are those of us who don't live in OZ gonna find it??


It's everywhere.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Eucalyptus+oil&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a - http://www.google.com/search?q=Eucalyptus+oil&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a



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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 9:04pm
Thanks for the link.
I'm ordering a case.
I'll let you know how it works for me.

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Posted By: T2Russo
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 9:14pm
Ya know, since Eucalyptus oil is�a�volatile organic oil, doesn't using it to avoid the Volatile Organic Compound�ban from the ITTF seem a bit counter-productive?

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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/23/2007 at 9:22pm
I am more volatile than Eucalyptus oil and they haven't banned me from ITTF play. However, I think membership on this Forum has been in jeopardy several times.

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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 12/24/2007 at 12:48am
Hahaha, it is so true, Tommy.

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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/24/2007 at 12:57am
You can't imagine how proud I am to have almost been banned . . . several times. I'm more fortunate than pingpongmadman I suppose. That poor bastxxd is gone forever. I bought a nice blade with his money. I will buy a 100 gallon vat of Euci Oil and grease up everything I can get my hands on including my girlfriend.


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Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/24/2007 at 1:01am
Originally posted by T2Russo T2Russo wrote:

Ya know, since Eucalyptus oil is a volatile organic oil, doesn't using it to avoid the Volatile Organic Compound ban from the ITTF seem a bit counter-productive?
 
As long as you don't apply it right before your match.  That guy claims the speed glue effect lasts for several weeks.


Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/24/2007 at 1:07am
Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

Thanks for the link.
I'm ordering a case.
I'll let you know how it works for me.
 
Make sure the one you get is the pure 100% eucalyptus oil.


Posted By: Brainstorm69
Date Posted: 12/24/2007 at 1:13am
And tommyzai, I hope your gf doesn't read too much of this forum...LOL

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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 12/24/2007 at 3:51pm
why this pic was posted in ttball.net? if this oil i still organic will not be very helpful


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/24/2007 at 3:56pm
Hey, I rubbed the Euci Oil all over myself this morning and several hours later I still have parts of my body all domed, curled up and funky looking.

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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 12/24/2007 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

why this pic was posted in ttball.net? if this oil i still organic will not be very helpful
The idea was found by the chinese first


Posted By: Brainstorm69
Date Posted: 12/25/2007 at 11:25am
Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

Hey, I rubbed the Euci Oil all over myself this morning and several hours later I still have parts of my body all domed, curled up and funky looking.
 
Does it make you softer and faster???? If so, your gf will soon be looking for anti-euci oil!  LOL


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Posted By: goldfish
Date Posted: 12/27/2007 at 1:34pm
Does it really have speed glue effect? Any one tried? and how is it? Thanks


Posted By: Qtjoel
Date Posted: 12/27/2007 at 2:39pm
if that shat gets on the rubber.....gg

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Posted By: pingpongrob
Date Posted: 12/27/2007 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

You can't imagine how proud I am to have almost been banned . . . several times. I'm more fortunate than pingpongmadman I suppose. That poor bastxxd is gone forever. I bought a nice blade with his money. I will buy a 100 gallon vat of Euci Oil and grease up everything I can get my hands on including my girlfriend.


I spoke to pingpongmadman or was it you - I forget now. You both sound the same to me, infact I cant tell the differance - even your IP Address was the same. Lucky they banned PPM and not you.Wink


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Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 12/28/2007 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

why this pic was posted in ttball.net? if this oil i still organic will not be very helpful
 
It's becuase that guy post there about this finding.  If you can read Chinese, you can go there to read it yourself.


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 12/28/2007 at 2:54pm
 
 
 
  pitty i cant read chinese


Posted By: dalamchops
Date Posted: 12/28/2007 at 2:56pm
well anything can happen. My focus III just somehow made a dome w/ plain Elmer's rubber cement.

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Posted By: iakovka
Date Posted: 12/30/2007 at 11:09am
Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

Thanks for the link.
I'm ordering a case.
I'll let you know how it works for me.
 
We are waiting SmileCry


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/30/2007 at 12:06pm
Rob, hopefully I've been more respectful than the madman. My IP address is clearly not the same as that guy. He lives in S.F. and I live in S.B. He's banned. I'm not. Yet, based on how much gear I buy, trade, and sell, I'm clearly mad in my own right!

Back to the Oil. I ordered!

NutritionGeeks.com

ProductID: 1622
Name: 100% Pure Eucalyptus Oil
Size: 4oz
Qty: 1
Price: $5.95
Sales Tax: $0.00
Shipping: $4.95
Total: $10.90



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Posted By: iakovka
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 6:37am
Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:


Back to the Oil. I ordered!
 
And?


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 6:52am
Originally posted by iakovka iakovka wrote:

Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

Thanks for the link.
I'm ordering a case.
I'll let you know how it works for me.
 
We are waiting SmileCry
Waiting for? It really does work. Only the smell though. My friend made a joke and said Australians would like it because they can feel they are playing in the nature LOL


Posted By: iakovka
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Waiting for? It really does work. Only the smell though. My friend made a joke and said Australians would like it because they can feel they are playing in the nature LOL
 
Did you try it yourself?
Somebody, who understands more than me in Chemistry said that Eucalyptus oil could get thick, because it is organic oil


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 7:19pm
It would fade over time


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 8:14pm
I just put the first coat on a Globe 999.
It curled up and smells nice!

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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 8:18pm
it isnt as good as other tuners and speed glue but...anyway!


Posted By: BAND!T
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 8:19pm
and how does it play compared to speed glue?, and will your glue change to Elmer's + eucalyptus oil anytime soon?LOL

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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 8:30pm
No click, only a bit faster and spin. Its not as good as speed glue.


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 8:34pm
No Lung Cancer.
No short life.

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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 8:39pm
Yes it is healthier


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:04pm
PingPangQiu,
You are probably the faster member to 1000 in the history of this forum.
I send you an early congratulations, but don't neglect your schoolwork or I'll get on a plane to HK and spank you!

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Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:12pm
Ping Pang,,,
     What kind of rubbers have you done with the Eucalyptus? How many coats? Did you do the top sheet? How much did they dome? Did the dome go away when you did the top sheet? What % speed increase did you get? Spin?


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:15pm
Hurricane 3 commercial. 2 coats. No. Alot. I already said, it is better, but not a lot. Better than nothing though


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

PingPangQiu,
You are probably the faster member to 1000 in the history of this forum.
I send you an early congratulations, but don't neglect your schoolwork or I'll get on a plane to HK and spank you!
Thank you so much Tommy. I would like to thank my family, friends and the members of this forum for encouraging me for this great achievement


Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:21pm
     Here is what happened with Nano Cannon,,,
     Three coats and the rubber was a tube. This only took about 30 minutes. Then I put one coat on the topsheet. The dome started going the other way. So fast you could watch it go. In 2 hours, the sheet was almost flat. I put one more coat on and it went into a reverse dome so it looked like a taco. The next morning I put more on the sponge and in ten minutes the sheet was flat again. Then I glued it on the blade.
     It is MUCH faster and the spin is better. It clicks VERY loud.
     I had the same thing happen with Energy.
     Looking at the sheet, I think you might have to use 2m sponge to stay legal. The top and sponge really swell up.
     Different rubbers will probably react differently to this stuff but so far, I think it equals any tuner out there. Smile


Posted By: anixon
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Originally posted by tommyzai tommyzai wrote:

PingPangQiu,
You are probably the faster member to 1000 in the history of this forum.
I send you an early congratulations, but don't neglect your schoolwork or I'll get on a plane to HK and spank you!
Thank you so much Tommy. I would like to thank my family, friends and the members of this forum for encouraging me for this great achievement


You're almost there... I have seen you post like almost any time of the day on almost everyday. I wonder how you have the time to even play ping pong?! I think you must play with a paddle in one hand, and a laptop in the other! LOL


Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:23pm
Well you are half right. I bring my laptop into to room that i play in.Wink


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:25pm
CONGRATULATIONS PINGPANGQIU!!!

Gong Xi!!!
Gong Xi!!!
Gong Xi!!!


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Posted By: pongcrazy
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

     Here is what happened with Nano Cannon,,,
     Three coats and the rubber was a tube. This only took about 30 minutes. Then I put one coat on the topsheet. The dome started going the other way. So fast you could watch it go. In 2 hours, the sheet was almost flat. I put one more coat on and it went into a reverse dome so it looked like a taco. The next morning I put more on the sponge and in ten minutes the sheet was flat again. Then I glued it on the blade.
     It is MUCH faster and the spin is better. It clicks VERY loud.
     I had the same thing happen with Energy.
     Looking at the sheet, I think you might have to use 2m sponge to stay legal. The top and sponge really swell up.
     Different rubbers will probably react differently to this stuff but so far, I think it equals any tuner out there. Smile
 
Is there anything to note about the Eucalyptus oil effecting the topsheet playablility or durability since you put two coats directly on it?  Did you have to clamp or press at all to glue?  Thanks!


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Posted By: PingPangQiu
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 9:29pm
lol thank you again tommy


Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 10:24pm
Hi Pong,,,
     I glued it on and felt the edges. They were solid but I still put it in a clicky press for 30 minutes. This stuff soaks in real fast and does not feel oiley like EEII.
     It will take alot more experimenting but so far, this looks good. I like how fast it works.
     The topsheet after treatment feels just slightly less grippy. About one hour later it is more grippy than new. (at least with Nano Cannon and Energy) I am waiting to hear results with different hardness sponges.
     Never know,,, maybe the topsheet will seperate from the sponge. Have to test more. There is no data that I know of on this stuff yet.Smile


Posted By: pongcrazy
Date Posted: 01/06/2008 at 10:54pm
Thanks - I may get some just to try on some old sheets first.  Most likely some friendship rubber.  Keep us posted on your experimental progress. 

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Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 01/07/2008 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Hurricane 3 commercial. 2 coats. No. Alot. I already said, it is better, but not a lot. Better than nothing though
 
Where did you get Eucalyptus oil in China?  There are people in China want to try it but they can't find it in store.


Posted By: TSuBaSa
Date Posted: 01/07/2008 at 6:34pm
I've tried it with a used Nittaku H3 Pro and with 2 layers and after 30 minutes the dome was real good. And after 1 hours its was like a taco. I didnt played with it but I'll try it tomorrow...


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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 01/07/2008 at 8:14pm
Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Has anyone actually tried it? Does it really work? This can save so much money from speed glue and so muc healthier


Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

Hurricane 3 commercial. 2 coats. No. Alot. I already said, it is better, but not a lot. Better than nothing though


When did you try it?  Which brand of Eucalyptus oil did you get?  Can you show a picture of it?  Where did you order it in China?  How long does it take for your H3 to dry with 2 coats of Eucalyptus oil?


Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 01/07/2008 at 9:10pm
Hi GenomicsK,
     This stuff does not have to dry. It soaks into the sponge or topsheet in just a few minutes at the most. Maximum dome has happened in less than 30 minutes for me on the rubbers I used.
     I glued one sheet on 10 minutes after I applied the oil. It is different than EEII, thinner. Does not seem to reduce the bond from glue.
     The brand is "Now Foods"
     The brand should not matter much if it is double distilled.Smile



Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 12:39am
@Hookshot

Thanks for the valuable information.  One more question: is this oil odorless?  If not, how bad the smell is it?


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 12:54am
Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

. . . is this oil odorless?� If not, how bad the smell is it?


Genomics,
I can answer this question, if Hookshot doesn't mind.
It has a strong smell, but it's very nice. It's like Vicks Vapor Rub or Menthol in cough drops. I like it. It's used to clear congestion and as a body rub so it's very healthy. It's not a bad strong smell, IMO it's a good strong smell!

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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 1:01am
Thanks, Tommy!  I think I will give it a try!!


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 1:03am
Instead of opening all the doors and windows and wearing a mask . . .
breath it in and clear out your sinuses!

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Posted By: asr1990
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 4:55am
Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

     Here is what happened with Nano Cannon,,,
     Three coats and the rubber was a tube. This only took about 30 minutes. Then I put one coat on the topsheet. The dome started going the other way. So fast you could watch it go. In 2 hours, the sheet was almost flat. I put one more coat on and it went into a reverse dome so it looked like a taco. The next morning I put more on the sponge and in ten minutes the sheet was flat again. Then I glued it on the blade.
     It is MUCH faster and the spin is better. It clicks VERY loud.
     I had the same thing happen with Energy.
     Looking at the sheet, I think you might have to use 2m sponge to stay legal. The top and sponge really swell up.
     Different rubbers will probably react differently to this stuff but so far, I think it equals any tuner out there. Smile
  does it leave anymarks on the topsheet of the rubber when you apply it on the topsheet?
 
   asr1990


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Posted By: asr1990
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 4:56am
so does it contain any sort of VOC compound? that may fail the ENEZ test?

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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 5:49am
If Eucalyptus oil fails the ENEZ test , everything else will fail!

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Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 10:28am
Hi ASR1990,,,
     If you apply it to the whole topsheet, there are absolutly no marks.
     It does expand the topsheet alot so if you got some on one spot only, I am sure it would show.


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 10:55am
If tree sap fails that might mean blades can no longer be made of wood, which is fine by me because I designed a new line of blades made from animal fertilizer. I call them Poopoozoo. I used them at the Club last week and nobody . . . and I mean NOBODY . . . could stay on the table with me! Talk about fast! The ball doesn't stay on the blade any longer than it has too, and games are over quickly!

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Posted By: YATTP
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 11:24am
Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

If Eucalyptus oil fails the ENEZ test , everything else will fail!

This is anything but clear until a rubber drenched in E-oil has been tested in ENEZ detectors.
I've just read on a German tt-forum that pure E-oil contains an organic solvent named "cineol" that is being used as an industrial solvent. It is also said that this is a volatile organic solvent, but the question is if the gas pressure of this VOC is within the forbidden margin or if it's below = compliant with the new ITTF rules.
Somebody from Switzerland tried a E-treated rubber in a ENEZ detector and the result was negative. So E-oil should be OK, but this person didn't want to give details about the test at the moment because something strange happened during his tests. He'll report more after further tests.


Posted By: asr1990
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 11:49am
Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

Hi ASR1990,,,
     If you apply it to the whole topsheet, there are absolutly no marks.
     It does expand the topsheet alot so if you got some on one spot only, I am sure it would show.
 
    Thanks,
 
   i may try some just on the topsheet when CTE turns the rubber int a tube
 
   asr1990


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Posted By: midway2k
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 2:10pm
I tried the Eucalyptus oil and the only thing i don't like is the smell, seems like it will never be gone once it's applied
 
any one has experiece with Tea tree oil? it seems very similar, e.g both can blow up and kill gems, and both are natural "voc". It may work too.


Posted By: alindo
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 3:45pm
Hi there,
For those of you really interested in knowing more about this subject I found these article that explains the properties and components of eucalyptus oil. I haven't read it yet, but while browsing I saw some interesting things. I hope it's useful for some or most of you. This is the link, it's a MS Word document.
http://www.oilmallee.com.au/docs/BARTON.doc


Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 4:10pm
I love the smell. It is WAY better than harmful chemicals.

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Posted By: manzer
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 4:44pm
Alindo, Good lookin' out on the article.  Eucalyptus oil contains 1,8-cineole which has a very similar chemical structure to d-lim, without all that cancer causing goodness..err, badness, cancer is bad .
                         

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Posted By: Flicker
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 5:27pm
Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

     Here is what happened with Nano Cannon,,,
     Three coats and the rubber was a tube. This only took about 30 minutes. Then I put one coat on the topsheet. The dome started going the other way. So fast you could watch it go. In 2 hours, the sheet was almost flat. I put one more coat on and it went into a reverse dome so it looked like a taco. The next morning I put more on the sponge and in ten minutes the sheet was flat again. Then I glued it on the blade.
     It is MUCH faster and the spin is better. It clicks VERY loud.
     I had the same thing happen with Energy.
     Looking at the sheet, I think you might have to use 2m sponge to stay legal. The top and sponge really swell up.
     Different rubbers will probably react differently to this stuff but so far, I think it equals any tuner out there. Smile
 
Was your Nano Cannon brand new or used?  If it was used, was it heavily glued?  I am just curious if the effect you saw was strictly due to the Eucalyptus oild or due to the combination of the oil reacting with the glue that was already there.  In addition, it was amazing that the E-oil would be absorbed through the topsheet and straighten out the rubber the way you described it.  Sounds very interesting.  I will have to try it soon.


Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 7:14pm
Hi Flicker,,,
     It was used but never speed glued. Same with the Energy. Tried it on another Energy now that had been EEII and the results were the same. I am waiting for some new rubber to come in and see how it does on Venus.
     It is amazing to be able to see the sheet change shape. I mean, you can watch it move! The stuff soaks into topsheets like magic. Dissappears completely. The sponge expands slower but the topsheets , things happen like "right now".Smile


Posted By: railroad
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 10:03pm
Hi All! I was reading comments about Eucalyptus oil, I bought some today. Several hours ago I put some coats of oil on my old Bryce, and I was surprised about the result. It is really works! But do not put the oil close to the edges, because it's very hard to glue. I have a robot in my house and I was trying my old Bryse with the eucalyptus oil and it works. I don't have any idea how long the rubber will be soft. I will let you know later. The oil is $5.60. It smells ok, but you can buy it in orange, or lemon scents! The speed optimizer is $25.00. You can save lots of money. I have a picture of the rubber with the eucalyptus oil on it, but I do not know how to download pictures to this forum. If somebody wants to see it, I can send an e-mail with the picture. Good luck!  http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZJxdm128YYUS">Were%20Number%20One  





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Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 10:08pm
Hi railroad,,,
     What kind of glue did you use. I had no problem with mine.Smile


Posted By: C.Y.
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 10:37pm
It looks like it really works.  Could you guys report back how long the speed glue effect could last?
 
One other thing, the guy that found this method refers it as 355 oil (his screen name on ttball forum is 355).  Can you guys name this method after him (even though he is still alive Smile)?   


Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 01/08/2008 at 11:20pm
@Hookshot & railroad

Did you guys dilute the Eucalyptus oil with something else before applying to the rubber or just directly out the bottle in its original form?  Thanks.



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