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Topic: Attention: All Single Ply Hinoki Club Members
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Subject: Attention: All Single Ply Hinoki Club Members
Date Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:06pm
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Calling all Single Ply Hinoki Club (SPHC) members. Please share your treasured equipment with us and all forum members by providing the description of your 1-ply Hinoki setup as the following. Blade: brand, model, and style (Jpen, Cpen, Shakehand, or else) Rubbers: FH and BH, if any. A short review of your setup, if you wish. Pictures of your setup, if you wish. Thank you! ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:07pm
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TSP Dynam 10.5mm (converted to RJPB) FH Rubber: Dawei Inspirit Red Max 40deg (lamp oil tuned) BH Rubber: Dawei 2008XP Black 2.2 (lamp oil tuned) The setup is a bit chunky because its a 10.5mm blade with rubbers on both sides. However it is not very heavy. I have sealed the blade, so the 1st gear is fast and has less feeling. My short game often suffers because of that. However on the 2nd gear that's where the awesome Kiso Hinoki feeling comes alive and produces low loop arc. This setup I would rate average for smashing and blocking. Here are the pictures.   ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:27pm
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Kokutaku Super Cho Tokusen Bishu 1D-100, 9.3mm Jpen.
Bryce Hard 2.0
Fast, yet Controllable, Nice, Sweet to play with, Pure Joy to behold. Too dear/reluctant for me to play with.
Review? What Review? With THIS ONE in my hand, no time for writing reviews.
Pictures:
http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/10083848169-1199815707-43089/ - http://photoshare.shaw.ca/view/10083848169-1199815707-43089/ ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:30pm
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Butterfly Senkoh MAX 10mm Shakehnad Mark V and Quattro 2.0mm A driving blade, need to learn to brush loop with it, not sure if i can with the lack of exp that i have ------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: fattchoi
Date Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:45pm
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Kokutaku ID100 dressed in FH Tenergy and BH Bryce FX Powersponge. What can I say about this setup? It is a powerful monster. FH smashes with this blade make such a loud cracking sound that everybody snaps to attention and marvel without fail. The opponent on the other side of the table just jumped and don't even know where the ball has gone I have other setups but they are going through different dresses at the moment so no point me mentioning them
 Cheers. ------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club |
BH rpb loop if successful always caught my opponent by surprise as the ball would fly past them so fast in a very low arcPosted By: BAND!T
Date Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:53pm
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Darker J-Speed90 Reverse. both sides with Darker Provine Tension 50. i changed this setup to a v-grip. theres very litte vibration, but lots of feedback. i feel the ball has a lot of dwell time in the blade. i have a problem with opening loops to deep fast underspin but that just might be me. my shortgame suffers but again.. it might just be me. but my loops are very quick.. not necessarily powerful though. kind of on the heavy side.
------------- Gave up on V-Grip, SH smoother Nittaku Noveliar [9 plies of powerthirst infused layers] FH: BLACK Xiom Omega II Asian BH: RED Stiga Boost TC |
Posted By: tdragon
Date Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:55pm
Could you give some review about your Senkoh? By the way, I don't think your blade is hinoki
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theman wrote:Posted By: rokphish
Date Posted: 09/04/2008 at 11:58pm
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Kokutaku Weizhou 3008 a little over 9mm, Shakehand. FH: H3P 39 before/41 now. BH: Tokyo 2 before/H3P39 now. Tokyo 2 played great but I decided to take on the extra spin provided by the H3P and because the boosted speed provided by the 1 ply enabled me to use the H3P on the BH. On flat hit, the H3P drops much faster than Tokyo 2 so I have to open up slightly more than usual or hit harder to compensate. Loops are fabulous. Weight and thickness doesn't bother me. The thing that bothers me is the thickness of the handle, that's it. ------------- instagram: rokphishtt Member of EJ Anonymous Hurricane Lover |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 12:27am
what r u on about lol ------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: tdragon
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 12:34am
I guess that I am wrong
Could you give some review about your blade?
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 1:21am
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I think Senkoh Max is single ply hinoki. To me it looks thicker in appearance compared to J-pen of the same thickness. I am curious to read a review, as it should be very thick with rubbers on both sides of the blade. I already find my J-pen 10 mm as too bulky, even with only one rubber. Theman, what is the weight of your blade without rubber ? ------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 1:52am
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man do i have remove my rubbers...*sigh* ill see...
------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: Beer Belly
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 2:57am
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Blade: Darker Speed90 FL
FH: Dawei Inspirit Quattro 2.0 39 degree BH: BTY Sriver 2.1 Quattro plays nice on the Speed90 FH-side but the blade really shines through Tenergy05. Sriver is just an all round rubber. ------------- http://www.pipfacts.info/ - Welcome to the Dark Side BTY Joo Se Hyuk | Tenergy64 2.1 | TSP P1-R 1mm Chop til you drop baby! |
Posted By: gekogark1212
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 3:02am
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Darker speed 90 with hyperglued Sriver (just as god wanted it ahahahha). Geko rockets reaches its upper limit. Anything I hit at full speed has never been returned with it. Feeling is excellent. However unless you're prepared to take the 'giant wielding a doubled handed battle axe', I'd suggest staying away from this heavy beast. Without glue the blade works well with Tenergy, however it seems to be more sensitive to incoming spin with it though. ------------- (\__/) (='.'=) But there's no sense crying over every mistake, (")_(") You just keep on trying till you run out of cake. |
Posted By: Jpholder
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 3:54am
| KTS Red Lebel with Energy |
Posted By: Ozzie Rooster
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 9:44am
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After waiting for about 6 to 7 weeks since ordering this beautiful piece of equipment and crying tears of blood everytime the AUD dropped in value, I eventually received delivery of it, making me $195.00 poorer for the priviledge of ownership, having previously tried fattchoi's weapon with Tenergy 05 on the forehand, I had a choice of equipment problem, after a lot of thought Re: availability, cost and suitability of different rubbers, I decided to rely on a pair of rubbers I had tried previously, Donic J O Gold, 2.5mm (max) Black on the Forehand and Tibhar Super Defense 40, 1.6mm Soft Red on the Backhand, at this point I can't honestly tell you how my selection works, as I have only picked it up today and will have to wait till tomorrow, when I visit one of my T.T. clubs, at Maroubra Public School, I'm hoping by using the proper technique and improving my fitness, I'll do justice for the blade and rubbers that I have chosen, any advice from the
members will be very much appreciated, by the way the Darker's weight was a very reasonable 88 grams, allowing the all up playing weight to be at around 177 grams.... more later, after some practice and games.....
Ozzie Rooster.....
------------- 1:Joola R*1, Platin MAX / D-Tecs OX. 2:BTTY Kiso Hinoki VII, Bryce Speed 2.1 / D-Tecs OX. 3:Tachi, Andro Hexer+ / D-Tecs OX. 4:Jemma, Donic Platin MAX / D-Tecs OX. |
Posted By: fattchoi
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 10:00am
Ozzie Rooster, welcome to the one ply hinoki club You can put 'Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club' in your signature.
Cheers. ------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club |
Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 10:10am
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Currently my setup is:
Blade: Yasaka Musashi Special -j-pen
Rubber: Sinus Alpha Max ------------- Single Ply Hinoki club |
Posted By: everest81
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 10:17am
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I switch between following two setups. 1. Darker Speed 90 Jpen, 10mm, 89grams. Sinus Max(forehand), no RPB. 2. Nittaku Cho tokusen Jpen, 9mm, 82grams Energy Extra(forehand), no RPB. Setup 1 is optimal for mid distance play and short game is adequate too, Sinus is great for brush looping and close to table looping but enough power from mid distance. Setup 2 suffers in generating power from mid distance, but great for close to table and control is great. ------------- Member of Single ply Hinoki club Kokutaku Cho-Super Cho Tokusen + Tenergy Max Collecting dust: Nittaku Cho tokusen 9mm, kokutaku cho tokusen 9mm, darker 90 10mm, ryno custom poc blade 10.2mm |
Posted By: hinokio
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 10:46am
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Butterfly Cypress Alpha. Jpen.
Sriver 1.9
Blade is fast & has a really nice touch. But probably a little too fast for my level:( Am thinking of downgrading to a blade more at my level for a while. My previous blade was a Juic Kalinic (Cpen), with the same rubber.
Any suggestions folks? Wanna stick to JPen with rubber on one side only.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 11:55am
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Blade: Custom 9.5-mm 1-ply WR-9 [shakehand, FL] from American Hinoki, http://www.AmericanHinoki.com - http://www.AmericanHinoki.com Rubbers: Mark V 30 Red 2.0 [FH], Sriver EL Black 2.1 [BH] Review: awesome however you use it, be it quick attack, close-to-the-table looping, flat-hitting, lobbing, blocking, short game, serve (but I am constantly looking for cheaper version of the rubbers. BH rubber is found - Gambler Six Shooter; for FH I will next try Dawei IQ Ultralight) Pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/AHWR9# - http://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/AHWRC9# - http://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/AHWRC9# ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: radu
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 12:23pm
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Custom 8.3-mm 1-ply WR-9 [shakehand, FL] made home, Rubbers:Flextra 1.9[FH], 729-802-40 2.1 [BH] Review: wesome however you use it,good feel and vibration, spin atack of player blocking,long serve and attack!       |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 12:52pm
Welcome to our club, Ozzie Rooster! Is your blade a Speed-90 Shakehand? ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 12:57pm
JimT, come on! Get a real Hinoki   ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 1:01pm
radu, is your blade really called WR-9, or did you just copy that from my post? My blade is named WR-9 because it is made of [W]estern [R]ed Cedar, and its thickness is above 9 mm (it is actually 9.5 mm), therefore it's name is WR-9. If you want to give your blade a similar name then, if it is, for instance, made of a European Spruce, call it ES-8, since it is 8.3 mm thick. Just a little piece of advice... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 1:01pm
radu, welcome to our club. Did you make that blade? What kind of wood is it? Is it Red Ceder or POC? ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 1:04pm
I am trying, man! I made a post saying that I was looking for a Darker Speed 90, SH, FL around 87 g plus-minus 3 g... hoping that someone would have one they don't use. I even offered my old love, Xiom Stradivarius, as a possible trade (with cash added, of course). So far, no real offers... c'est la vie. If nothing pans out, I can get one from IruIru, I guess, if they have one in my weight range. But I will wait a bit so when it comes, it's going to be a Christmas present. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 3:13pm
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That would definitely be a sweet Christmas present for yourself. ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 09/05/2008 at 3:22pm
 My thought anyway....------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 09/07/2008 at 9:03pm
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Updated my post with pictures. We gotta have more members than this! ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
Posted By: hafawaz
Date Posted: 09/07/2008 at 9:06pm
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i'll add my pics soo.
------------- Senkoh - 85 with Sriver EL 2.1 Keyshot Light with Sriver FX 2.1 |
Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 09/07/2008 at 9:13pm
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Nittaku AP (AA short handle version) 9mm
Yasaka Original T-Version (AMAZING PIP) MAX ------------- Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect Yinhe Qing |
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 09/07/2008 at 9:17pm
Welcome! I don't remember seeing your review on AP+SP elsewhere. If possible could you gives a short review? Thanks in advance. ------------- CEO, Single Ply Hinoki Club TSP Dynam 10.5mm and other fine 1-ply Kiso Hinoki blades |
Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 09/07/2008 at 10:45pm
Hahaha, that would be very wise  ------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: azzerion
Date Posted: 05/02/2014 at 7:46pm
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Finally, I have my single ply hinoki blade up and running. I'm now an official card carrying member of the single ply hinoki owners club! My setup is: Darker Single Ply Kiso Hinoki with Butterfly Tenergy 05 2.1 Black on FH & Butterfly Tenergy 80 FX 2.1 Red on the BH. Awesome combo, it's proving to be thus far. I'm one happy camper B-) ------------- We have met the enemy and he is us... |
Posted By: qualizon
Date Posted: 05/02/2014 at 8:22pm
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I'm officially a member too this year :-) 1) KKT super cho super kiwami 2) BTY KTS blue label 3) Darker speed 90 10mm w/ Xiom Europe on FH 4) BTY KTS red label incoming ------------- N656 TG3 Nat Blue/H360 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66012&PID=793739" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69193&PID=839189" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 05/04/2014 at 8:02am
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My new cannon: - Xiom Katana Platinum cpen 10mm - with Moristo SP max (fore) and Bluefire M3 (back)
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Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 07/06/2014 at 10:02am
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Has the Darker Speed 90 in shakehander been discontinued? I can't find it at any online store. ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 07/06/2014 at 1:53pm
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Really in no store? http://www.ebay.de/itm/Darker-1-ply-Kiso-Hinoki-Speed-90-blade-OFF-no-Rubber-Table-Tennis-Ping-Pong-/280766309936?pt=Table_Tennis&hash=item415ef9e630" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.de/itm/Darker-1-ply-Kiso-Hinoki-Speed-90-blade-OFF-no-Rubber-Table-Tennis-Ping-Pong-/280766309936?pt=Table_Tennis&hash=item415ef9e630 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Darker-J-Speed-90-Penhold-one-ply-Hinoki-Table-Tennid-Blade-Tenergy-80-/141331859105?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20e80906a1" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Darker-J-Speed-90-Penhold-one-ply-Hinoki-Table-Tennid-Blade-Tenergy-80-/141331859105?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20e80906a1 http://www.tt-markt.de/darker-hinoki-speed-90.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.tt-markt.de/darker-hinoki-speed-90.html http://www.tt-megastore.de/darker-hinoki-speed-90.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.tt-megastore.de/darker-hinoki-speed-90.html ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51774&title=feedback-magic-m" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 07/06/2014 at 2:23pm
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@magic lol...these links make my Darker Speed 90 FL For Trade post looks like a real bargain. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 07/06/2014 at 5:20pm
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Thanks, Magic. ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: ttspirit
Date Posted: 01/22/2016 at 5:44am
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Hello all Hinoki lovers, here is my 1 ply Tibhar Tibor H-1-9 ST Hinoki blade. May I join the club, too ? Here some datas: weight 95 gr. , size 152 x 155 mm , thickness 9 mm, I like the great feeling of this blade and the superb noble St handle of it. It's made of dark brown Walnut wood. When I play with this blade it feels like set back in old times when the blades were made and played and you can feel the air from that time. I will post pictures later. regards, ttspirit |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/22/2016 at 11:03am
Go ahead. Membership granted! ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 01/22/2016 at 11:28am
  RSM Max, G Max,C Max, Cypress S 10mm, Kokutaku Kiwami,Rorin 10mm,Armstrong Apex 21, TSP Hanabi S . I also have a "few" more .... ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 01/22/2016 at 12:12pm
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@jpenmaster 1 of these days....1 or 2 of those you posted would be mine. I don't mind to bring "them" with me at all... Btw, you know the meaning of that word or character on that Kokutaku, right? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 01/22/2016 at 2:03pm
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You can have a couple i have spares...... ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: nathanso
Date Posted: 01/25/2016 at 1:15pm
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A shakehand single-ply blade? Sure! http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/singleplycypress" rel="nofollow - http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/singleplycypress Click the image to zoom it. Then click the zoomed image really zoom it. And I hear Charlie may soon be offering cork handles on his J-pen blades ------------- BBC, SP, LP |
Posted By: Robbles
Date Posted: 01/25/2016 at 9:15pm
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New to the forum + new blade for myself took a bit to track down. Darker speed 90 jpen 10mm NIB      |
Posted By: victorm
Date Posted: 01/25/2016 at 9:29pm
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Wow!! What a beautiful piece of hinoki wood! |
Posted By: Robbles
Date Posted: 01/25/2016 at 9:38pm
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Thanks victorm! It's been playing like a dream (although I need to sand the wings down a little more...) ------------- Darker Speed 90 jpen 10mm // FH mx-p 1.9mm rubber |
Posted By: Robbles
Date Posted: 01/26/2016 at 5:49pm
 ------------- Darker Speed 90 jpen 10mm // FH mx-p 1.9mm rubber |
Posted By: gatz
Date Posted: 01/27/2016 at 3:38am
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Ariex Excellent Hinoki(fl) and Double Day Millet(st) http://s273.photobucket.com/user/gatz143/media/IMG_0920.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Blade: ZJ SZLC, Garayda 5000 Matador Texa Rubbers: FH::Symmetry SP BH: Tenergy Hard, FH: MoristoSP ax BH: Tenergy Hard,FH:Desperado 2 BH: Omega 7 Asia |
Posted By: charlezzz
Date Posted: 02/20/2016 at 2:46am
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My collections: darker speed 90 (acquired from jpenmaster, really nice blade!), RSM GMAX, RSM MAX, Nittaku Cho Tokusen P, Kokutaku Cho Super Cho, Kokutaku D100  Which one has the nicest grains? Guess which grains belong to which!  ------------- Butterfly RSM Max 95gram / Omega IV Pro |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 02/20/2016 at 1:51pm
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Nice collection! ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 02/20/2016 at 1:53pm
------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: zeroencore
Date Posted: 02/21/2016 at 5:29am
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Here are some of my collections: From Top to Bottom: BTY CPL 9mm, BTY Blue Label KTS, Xiom RSM Platinum, KKT Kiwami Kokusai Takkyu Edition, BTY Red Label KTS, BTY Custom-made Cypress Max 1, BTY Custom-made Cypress Max 2, BTY Custom-made RSM Max, Darker Speed 90 10mm, KTS XO, BTY Custom-made Cypress            ------------- BTY Special + T64 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=80110&title=feedback-zeroencore" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: ttspirit
Date Posted: 02/21/2016 at 7:38am
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uploads/14514/P1050954.JPG" rel="nofollow - uploads/14514/P1050954.JPG Here's my old Tibhar Tibor H-1-9 ST Hinoki blade. This blade is perfect
for every kind of play. I became bavarian champion with it in mens
double. One thing could be better to be up to date: the handle
dimensions. The handle is very flat and, but the more you play with it
you get used to it in a way. Nowadays I would put on a other handle but with the
same material ( walnut wood dark brown ). I would give the handle more
thickness but on the other hand less wideness. regards, ttspirit uploads/14514/P1050955.JPG" rel="nofollow - uploads/14514/P1050955.JPG |
Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 02/21/2016 at 8:26am
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As a non-pen holder, non-member of the butterfly viscaria club I want to join this elite group. Two sanwei H10s are on order from eacheng. Pics to follow (in 4-6 weeks). |
Posted By: 729 FX
Date Posted: 02/22/2016 at 8:03am
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Me too. Owner of a Butterfly Senkoh Super 95 with Tenergy 80 and a Senkoh 1 with DHS Hurricane 3 Neo. ------------- Bfly Senkoh 1-ply-DHS Hurricane 3 Neo/Yinhe Pluto |
Posted By: rokphish
Date Posted: 02/22/2016 at 8:56am
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i think i still have my kokutaku 3008 somewhere... ------------- instagram: rokphishtt Member of EJ Anonymous Hurricane Lover |
Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 03/04/2016 at 10:26am
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%20" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/photos/kK7Cfw2NdeN45Gbz8 Sanwei h10 are in from eacheng. Both weigh an almost identical, but hefty 109.9 grams on digital scale. |
Posted By: zeroencore
Date Posted: 05/07/2016 at 12:49pm
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Newly added collection: Cypress Special (Taiwan Edition)  ------------- BTY Special + T64 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=80110&title=feedback-zeroencore" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: Nasche
Date Posted: 05/07/2016 at 1:40pm
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About 22 years old BTY Cypress 9.1mm 135g with M1 max. 
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Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 09/24/2016 at 2:00pm
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Posted By: penholderxxx
Date Posted: 09/26/2016 at 11:51pm
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Hi, All are very beautiful blades bur I am very impressed with the Darker blades. Darker seems to be able to cut their wood in such a manner that their blades have a higher level of beauty; esp the eyes on the side. They show quite high degree of symmetry for both eyes; slightly elongated oval, very alluring. When I bought my S 90 Jpen, I thought I had such a pretty blade that I decided not to play with it. But what beautiful eyes I see on the Darker Jpen posted by Jpenmaster. Bold dark tight lines, even for both eyes we can observe that the lines are still very close together, beautiful. I wonder if this is a custom order. And I see there are three Darker boxes. penholderxxx ------------- Iloveplayingtabletennis |
Posted By: edgy
Date Posted: 09/27/2016 at 8:00am
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Hello single ply hinoki club. I have a question for you all. My friend has a Butterfly Senkoh FT-S singlet ply hinoki jpen but I can't find any stats on it. Ttdb has no reviews or stats other than weight: http://www.tabletennisdb.com/blade/butterfly-senkoh-ft-s.html Does anyone have any info on this blade (e.g., speed rating, control rating, etc.) or what other blades it might be similar to? Thanks! |
Posted By: Ladon1997
Date Posted: 09/27/2016 at 8:11am
| Founder passed away , only the older version appears such beauty . Darker 90 now a legend to own , especially FL and CP . |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 01/01/2017 at 7:22pm
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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 01/01/2017 at 7:39pm
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what so special about this Cypress JPI-S? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 01/01/2017 at 7:53pm
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I rarely see any heavy figuring on Butterfly jpens. ------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 01/01/2017 at 8:27pm
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Oh yeah...I see what you meant. It's a gem eh? Wonder how it plays. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 01/01/2017 at 10:46pm
Sorry, I don't get it. Who passed away ? ------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 01/02/2017 at 5:23pm
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I still enjoy playing from time to time with my precious Senkoh 90(78g). Dressed with a hot rodded Tau and a Barracuda BS it is the most versatile blade I've had so far.I had two Senkoh 90 ,but broke one and then offered it to a good friend who helped me to glue it and fell in love with it...... ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: BrunodeDanann
Date Posted: 01/05/2017 at 8:25am
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Need to take pictures of my Hinoki single Ply collection Nittaku AA Nittaku Unnamed Butterfly Cypress 2013 (new) Butterfly Cypress 10mm Butterfly KTS red label Xiom Athena ------------- Harimoto ALC HUrricane 3 Vega asia |
Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 01/15/2017 at 2:51am
Single ply by BBC with carbon fiber protection on the edges   ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 01/16/2017 at 8:49pm
That's awesome! The carbon fiber came with the blade or you put it later? If it's the second option, do you have pics without it? I would like how are the grains of charlies 1 ply Edited: judging by the handle, the grains looks little inclined but very tight!
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Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 12:25am
Actually the carbon fiber protection came with the blade, i really don't know how to apply that on the wood, its charlie's trade secret! here's a picture of the grain, i forgot to put this pic, its part of the full set of images for this blade, you can see them at http://imgur.com/a/RmZEW" rel="nofollow - http://imgur.com/a/RmZEW  ------------- http://www.bladesbycharlie.com/models/hinokighost" rel="nofollow - BBC Hinoki Ghost http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74126&title=feedback-rocketman222" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Chairman Meow
Date Posted: 01/17/2017 at 3:46pm
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I have a few of Charlie's single ply blades. I have pictures of two of them at the link below. One does not have the tape on the edges. I hope the pictures are satisfactory, I am no good when it comes to photography. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6vzFpelmLsbRGUyUFhIeXhkUDQ None of these blades came with the carbon edge tape. You may notice that the light coloured blade has a crack. I broke it once, and sent it to Charlie for fixing; he added the edge tape in the process. I protect my blades with a layer of shock absorbing rubber- it adds a lot of weight, but it makes sure the blade never gets even a small dent on the edge. I have a third one of these blades, but it is in use and has that custom edge tape on it that I don't really want to remove; it's a hassle to put back on. I have two of those dark coloured ones, and I think they are both centre cuts. I can't tell if the light one is from the centre or not. ------------- -1 ply Cypress 11.5mm "The Castigator" -H3 Prov. Blue Sponge 2.2mm 41 deg. -H3 Prov. Orange Sponge 2.1mm 37 deg |
Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 02/02/2017 at 3:14pm
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Blade: Kokutaku Nº1 D-50 (Jpen) Rubber: Rasant Grip http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/shinshiro/media/Table%20Tennis/Sem%20tiacutetulo_zpsbvj0tibd.png.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/shinshiro/media/Table%20Tennis/WP_20170202_17_52_07_Pro_zpsj0ga6q8g.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Finally I'm a member of Single Ply Hinoki Club!
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Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 02/03/2017 at 9:04am
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an update here Yesterday I played for the first time with a single ply hinoki blade, a Kokutaku D-50 (previously I was using Galaxy 985). I was very curious to know how it would be, because hinoki wood is so praised by some people that it seems to have some "mystic" aura on it haha I will write some simpressions about the blade compraing with 985. It's important to say that I'm a beginner, so I don't have a very stable mechanics nor much feel for the ball and etc. It is just a beginner's point of view, so be aware that can be very imprecise / wrong.... Previous setup: Galaxy 985, 91g, about 8mm thickness, with Rasant Grip rubber Current setup: Kokutaku No.1 D-50, 83g, 9 mm thickness, with Rasant Grip rubber The first thing I noticed is how much different is the sound produced between the two. 985 has always a "TÁK" sound, and D-50 is more like "TÓF". It only "TÁKs" on faster strokes. I don't know if I was influenced by the sound, but I felt that D-50 was much softer than 985. D-50 seemed to have more dwell time. When I played with 985, it seemed that I was playing with an iron blade haha. But I don't know if I actually produced more spin with D-50. About speed, I got the impression that 985 is faster than D-50. On another hand, D-50 looks to have more gears - it seems to be slower on slow strokes, but produces good speed com faster strokes. 985 appears to be fast all the time. Since I'm not capable of doing a more detailed review, I will stop here, that's the only thing I can write =( But I hope it can be of some help (even if it's little) for other beginners that are curious to see how a hinoki blade is compared to a "regular" blade. |
Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 03/01/2017 at 2:54am
My official petition to the club:  http://imgur.com/a/OIN6j" rel="nofollow - High Resolution Photos I play both Jpen and Shakehand, apparently equally well. H8s are on the SOU for now but TG2 Neos are on the way for a bit lighter setup. The SOU is stiffer than the Miyabi I guess due to the shape of the head, but it still doesn't make sense to me why that is. I cannot get enough of the feel of both blades. It makes playing very enjoyable. Lovely Hinoki!
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Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 2:23am
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Congrats.Ive always had an eye on the Miyabi and can't forgive myself that I forgot to ask about it while visiting an official distributor shop in Kuala Lumpur few weeks ago, What is the weight of yours? ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 2:41am
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The Miyabi is 80g, 9mm and the SOU is 79g, just under 8mm. Miyabi's handle is extremely comfortable especially for my larger hands. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 4:56am
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Damn, I should have..... ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 11:41am
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I got mine from TT11 and it's still on sale right now: http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-miyabi" rel="nofollow - http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-miyabi ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 03/05/2017 at 4:39pm
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I have seen Cypress Max/RSM with worse grains than that KKT D50. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 03/09/2017 at 5:30pm
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My new (and probably last) blade just arrived! http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/shinshiro/media/Table%20Tennis/American%20Hinoki/WP_20170309_17_15_34_Pro_zpsni9dpqvz.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/shinshiro/media/Table%20Tennis/American%20Hinoki/a1_zps2wmjqa6x.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/shinshiro/media/Table%20Tennis/American%20Hinoki/a2_zps3elzz8cc.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/shinshiro/media/Table%20Tennis/American%20Hinoki/a3_zpsnuaf7uho.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  This is a customized 1 ply that I ordered from Kevin (American Hinoki, or AHinoki as he is known here). I asked him to make an asymmetrical blade shape near the handle because I want to do RBP with a Jpen (please note that I'm left handed). With a normal shape Jpen RBP is very unconfortable because you can't angle the blade very much since the index finger blocks it. I also asked him to make a very light blade, under 70g. And he did it at 64g!! Super light for a 1 ply!! Due to low weight, he rated this blade as ALL (wich is perfect for me since I'm a beginner) Unfortunately I can't test it because my rubbers haven't arrived yet, it will probably take some weeks  .This was my first customized blade and I'm very happy with the result (tough haven't played yet). I recommend Kevin!
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Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 03/26/2017 at 2:22am
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Very nice, shinshiro. This looks a lot like the first Jpen I had (Yinhe 989) where I sanded the index finger shoulder really deep like this. Very nice for RPB and so comfortable. I think I like 9mm the best as you can tell from the two Miyabis in my signature, and I've been considering contacting Kevin to talk about designs. Do a lot of people question you about doing RPB on a 9mm Jpen blade? I get it all the time as if its physically impossible. I just have to show them the power after their doubting. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 03/27/2017 at 3:26pm
I think just a few of them noticed that I was with a backhand rubber (I started using this blade only last week because I was waiting for the rubbers to arrive). My training partner said that I was getting used quite quick with RBP (I have never done this before), but I told him some weeks before that I was planing on trying this, so he was not surprised. But I'm almost sure that when I get to play with more experienced people, they will get a little suprised with Jpen RPB  Here is a new pic of my blade, now with rubbers, but I want to show the edges of the blade. I have put some layers of epoxy resin to protect the wood (suggested by Kevin from American Hinoki), since I've heard that Hinoki is very fragile and I don't want to split it in half if I hit the table.... http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/shinshiro/media/Table%20Tennis/American%20Hinoki/WP_20170327_16_00_46_Pro_zpsrywoxysh.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  I think the result is prety nice since I had no experience working with any kind of resin before. Of course there are some defects (I could not make the resin to be 100% uniform, as you can see some salience near "WRC" for example), but for my total amateur skills I'm very satisfied with the result
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Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 03/27/2017 at 3:37pm
It looks very nice!  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 03/31/2017 at 12:01pm
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Only an update here: The worst nightmare for a 1 ply hinoki user has hapenned to me... Yes...I split my blade in two...and only on my 3th training... Between one exercise and another, I accidentally dropped my blade from a little above the table level, and it split. Even with rubbers on both sides and expoy on edges, it has split... http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/shinshiro/media/Table%20Tennis/American%20Hinoki/WP_20170331_12_02_25_Pro_zpsse3rkre3.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  (I put some force into the blade to show where it split. Without force, the split is discrete) If there is someone who already had the same experience, I'm open to suggestions to how to repair it. I also e-mailed Kevin to see if he can give me some advices. Sorry to detour a little from the thread...
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Posted By: Chairman Meow
Date Posted: 03/31/2017 at 3:11pm
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You can use a thin layer of epoxy to put it back together- make sure you use something like a vise to hold it in place and with constant pressure. If excess epoxy comes out of the crack, you can gently sand it off. You also have to make sure to keep the larger splinters that may come off to preserve the continuity and evenness of the blade. To prevent future splits, you can put edge tape on your paddle and then some foam mounting tape on that. This only adds 1-3 grams. I have even seen people use RTV silicone, although this is heavier. I personally use the foam mounting tape method, and add an eighth-inch thick layer of industrial shock absorbing rubber on top. It's pretty much bulletproof, but very heavy. ------------- -1 ply Cypress 11.5mm "The Castigator" -H3 Prov. Blue Sponge 2.2mm 41 deg. -H3 Prov. Orange Sponge 2.1mm 37 deg |
Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 03/31/2017 at 8:35pm
I only have condolences to offer, shinshiro!  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 03/31/2017 at 8:50pm
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Same thing happened to my Ahinoki WRC. My wood turner friend glued it back together. It had no effect on the playing characteristics that I could discern. ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 05/19/2017 at 3:58pm
I got a 1-ply Bamboo blade from Kevin and it is quite awesome! I know it isn't hinoki, but it is 1-ply from American Hinoki.  http://imgur.com/a/qxKFs" rel="nofollow - More photos here I'm actually putting it up for sale on the forum only because I fell in love with my Waldner JO shape. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 06/11/2017 at 2:24pm
Some 1 ply Hinoki BTY JPen blades. ------------- Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm |
Posted By: photino
Date Posted: 06/11/2017 at 3:14pm
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great collection, i have four of them....
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Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 06/11/2017 at 3:15pm
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kakapo is LOADED. He isn't even a Jpen-er. Damn... ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: soung1234
Date Posted: 06/14/2017 at 6:47pm
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I was looking at the RSM Max/G-Max, looks like there are two versions of each. Some have different logos, and some have a dot on the handle... What's the difference? I found this link, if anyone can translate Chinese... http://www.butterfly-china.com/cn/?p=42&a=view&r=185 |
Posted By: onehander
Date Posted: 06/14/2017 at 7:44pm
| The one with a dot is the later version. The dot is an anti-counterfeiting hologram. When Butterfly stopped sponsoring Ryu Seung Min, the very latest version is Cypress G-Max. |