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Topic: To J-Pen Or Not?
Posted By: 77g33k
Subject: To J-Pen Or Not?
Date Posted: 10/13/2008 at 9:50pm
A request for opinions from the TT luminaries in this forum

Smile

I am training kids in my neighborhood basic TT skills(7 to 15 yrs old, boys/girls). Around equal number of shakers and penners (shakehand, penhold Wink)

One of the kids, around 11 yrs old, as of now proficient in penhold style of play but really wants to play J-Pen. He is a huge fan of me before I switch to shakehand defensive style of play (darkside) Big%20smile

My questions are:
Should I encourage or discourage him from J-Pen? Is this style still OK in this new TT era? Or is it going extinct?

A follow-up question, what are your opinions on Ryu Seung Min? Though he is still the best J-Pen player(WR#8 Sept. 2008), in his latest games since the 2008 Olympics, he lost more than he wins. Is he going out or he is just in a slump? Is the J-Pen style going out with him?

Thanks in advance for the ideas, opinions or comments...


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Posted By: dalamchops
Date Posted: 10/13/2008 at 10:02pm
it's a good style, but without RPB, it'll take so much more dedication in training to reach the highest level.

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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 10/13/2008 at 11:01pm
Second what dalamchops said.  Top J-Pen players careers are usually shorter.  The minute they slow down or not in top physical shape (gaining weight) they will start to slump.  RPB might not be the sole answer but at least it should help to level the playing field against two-winged players.

If your student wants to try J-Pen, you should definitely encourage it.


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Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 10/14/2008 at 5:20am
 Of course you should encourage him. I wouldn't teach him the RPB though which is not suitable for the j-pen style of play, at least in my view.  Smile 
   There is  a very slight  chance that he or she will become a leading professional player  so you shouldn't be worried that j-pen players have shorter career at the very high level. With some changes in the strokes you can play well even in your late 70's.  And to convince yourself watch the men's 70+  Consolation final at the World Veteran's Championship between Minoru Kohakura and Kozi Suzuki. Smile
 
  You can download it here:
  http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4D7V2KHA - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4D7V2KHA
 
  Thanks to Redoya for the upload.


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Posted By: 77g33k
Date Posted: 10/15/2008 at 5:09am
Originally posted by Thylacine Thylacine wrote:

 Of course you should encourage him. I wouldn't teach him the RPB though which is not suitable for the j-pen style of play, at least in my view.  Smile 
   There is  a very slight  chance that he or she will become a leading professional player  so you shouldn't be worried that j-pen players have shorter career at the very high level. With some changes in the strokes you can play well even in your late 70's.  And to convince yourself watch the men's 70+  Consolation final at the World Veteran's Championship between Minoru Kohakura and Kozi Suzuki. Smile
 
  You can download it here:
  http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4D7V2KHA - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4D7V2KHA
 
  Thanks to Redoya for the upload.


Cool

Nice vid thylacine. Thanks. I am thinking of picking up my old J-Pen set-up once again...

Any recommendation for a faster J-Pen blade to compensate for the decrease in power of my playing arm due to injury. My injury is the main reason why I switched to a defensive style of play.





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Messing opponents with their own spins.
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Main:
Sunflex Pro
Rubbers:Focus III/Nitakku Express

Back-up:
Globe Whirlwind
Rubbers:Palio CJ8000/DHS 652


Posted By: 77g33k
Date Posted: 10/15/2008 at 5:13am
To member_profile.asp?PF=17698&FID=26 - dalamchops and member_profile.asp?PF=13681&FID=26 - GenomicsKnigh:

Are there any high level player that you know that play RJPB? ITTF top 200/300 perhaps? Or around 2400 USATT rated players?


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Messing opponents with their own spins.
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Main:
Sunflex Pro
Rubbers:Focus III/Nitakku Express

Back-up:
Globe Whirlwind
Rubbers:Palio CJ8000/DHS 652



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