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Topic: WTTC 1997 videos
Posted By: ozjan
Subject: WTTC 1997 videos
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 at 3:13pm
if anyone has the 1997 manchester final of waldner vs. samsonov can you please post via megaupload? any other matches of waldner in that tourney would b much appreciated as well! thanks much in advance.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 at 3:42pm
I have a few... let me try and find them.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 at 3:51pm
Here is the final - WTTC 1997 - Waldner vs Samsonov
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1w61dsnh - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1w61dsnh
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ts3qtbvx - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ts3qtbvx
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 at 3:55pm
Waldner vs Primorac
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=s4skzui6 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=s4skzui6
Waldner vs Yan Sen (semifinal)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2zgek7y3 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2zgek7y3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1rahgh7f - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1rahgh7f
Samsonov vs Kong Linghui (semifinal)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=pn4jtu0r%20 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=pn4jtu0r http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ku1cfaj5 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ku1cfaj5 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=xg2pkv4c - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=xg2pkv4c
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Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 at 4:44pm
Thanks very much JimT! I wanted them too...
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Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 at 4:58pm
One problem with the introduction of the 11-point games is that I don't have any more patience to watch the longer 21-point games. The ITTF really should have used 16-point games with 3 serves each. This would have given the desired "sense of urgency" from players. At the same time, players can still get a rhythm with their serves. Right now, it seems that there is more emphasis on service returns rather than serves. But hey, nobody asked me.
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Posted By: ibupro
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 at 5:52pm
BeaverMD wrote:
One problem with the introduction of the 11-point games is that I don't have any more patience to watch the longer 21-point games.� The ITTF really should have used 16-point games with 3 serves each.� This would have given the desired "sense of urgency" from players.� At the same time, players can still get a rhythm with their serves.� Right now, it seems that there is more emphasis on service returns rather than serves.� But hey, nobody asked me. |
I agree. I think the ITTF wanted to stop the server from getting a rhythm going though, hence what we have.
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Posted By: ozjan
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 10:21am
thank u! much appreciated.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 1:06pm
Enjoy, guys
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 3:25pm
JimT I can not play this waldner - yan sen video. what codecs and player do you use to watch them?
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 3:29pm
Vladovich wrote:
JimT I can not play this waldner - yan sen video. what codecs and player do you use to watch them?
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You might be missing some video codecs. I have (long time ago) installed CCCP - you can find it here: http://www.cccp-project.net/ - http://www.cccp-project.net/
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 3:37pm
Still nothing, I hear audio clearly, but there is no picture :(.
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 5:00pm
Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 5:04pm
it's for Windows XP / 2000 / ME / 98SE
I don't know if it's ok with windows vista
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 5:08pm
Vladovich wrote:
Still nothing, I hear audio clearly, but there is no picture :(.
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what are you using? which video player?
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 5:13pm
I have just instaled H264. Still nothing :(, and I have never seen Yan Sen match, except from video trainig with Ma Lin :(
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 5:18pm
Try latest VLC player or KMPlayer - I have no problems.
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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 10:26pm
Vladovich wrote:
JimT I can not play this waldner - yan sen video. what codecs and player do you use to watch them?
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thanks for the link jimT, another reason y u should be mod, and yes, waldner OWNED YAN SEN!!!! service god!
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Posted By: ozjan
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 10:42pm
i tryed vlc kpm and dling h264 and still get that bad green pixelation, what am i missing? thanks.
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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 12/16/2008 at 10:46pm
can't get any of the samsonov videos to work. A lot of errors in it.
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 12/17/2008 at 1:44am
theman wrote:
Vladovich wrote:
JimT I can not play this waldner - yan sen video. what codecs and player do you use to watch them? |
thanks for the link jumT, another reason y u should be mod, and yes, waldner OWNED YAN SEN!!!! service god!
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get GPOT and will tell you wichh codecs was used to code the video, i have a tape how wang tao and kong rolls over yan sen, yan sen is one of the hollow minded players i ever seen.
one of the reasons a good coach told me that li xiaodong(coached yan sen in that match) is so stressed that players guided by him usually loses like wang nan when she lose to a sloppy player from northkorea and li xiaodong gave her instructions
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Posted By: tristan
Date Posted: 12/17/2008 at 5:36am
Big troubles playing those vids. Second part of the final seems to be badly encoded. Either under XP ou Ubuntu, I can't get my players (vlc, mpc, mplayer...) to decode properly the video stream. I get one or two frames displayed, but no more.
Why using exotic codecs ? :) Xvid or generic h264 +mp3 work great...
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/20/2008 at 8:50pm
Those are not my vids - I have downloaded them from there myself and didn't have any problems viewing them after CCCP installation.
I myself am sometimes surprised when people use some really weird and untested codecs but that's probably because they are trying to find out which one they like the best...
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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 10:42am
Vladovich wrote:
JimT I can not play this waldner - yan sen video. what codecs and player do you use to watch them?
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It looks like the video part of this vid was encoded with Videosoft H.264 Codec 2 (VSSH). I was unable to find a reputable source for this particular codec. So no luck in playing this vid...
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 11:16am
Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 11:25am
what are the part with problem ?
I can re-encode them in DivX, but the quality will be worse...
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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 4:40pm
I already have a version of H264 codec installed. So I took that one out and installed the one you posted. However it still doesn't play. It just plays a few frames then everything sort of freezes with pixels changing very slowly. It might be a Vista problem. Thanks anyway.
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 4:59pm
yes, this codec probably doesn't work with windows vista. I'm converting the vids with DivX codec.
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 5:00pm
Final Waldner-Samsonov DivX
part1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NZPCXXBZ
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 5:03pm
gluon wrote:
yes, this codec probably doesn't work with windows vista. I'm converting the vids with DivX codec.
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I have win XP, and still it doesnt work with h.264. Can you convert Yan Sen vs Waldner? Thanks.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 6:13pm
strange story... I re-checked and my WinXP is playing just fine. I must have installed more than just CCCP package. When I was trying different video players like VLC and KMP I must have added some extra codecs...
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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 6:54pm
JimT wrote:
strange story... I re-checked and my WinXP is playing just fine. I must have installed more than just CCCP package. When I was trying different video players like VLC and KMP I must have added some extra codecs...
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You must have an older version of VideoSoft H.246 codec, circa 2003 or earlier. I have the latest VideoSoft H.246, but I guess it wasn't backward compatible or it might be a Vista problem. I also have de-installed most of the codecs and installed CCCP with KMP. Nothing worked
Anyway, how's your trip to Vegas? Did you have a good time in the turney?
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 7:20pm
GenomicsKnight wrote:
Anyway, how's your trip to Vegas? Did you have a good time in the turney?
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Check out my thread here
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22916 - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22916
I more or less poured out my overall impressions - post by post...
In a nutshell, I am happy I went but not happy how I played. If I am coming next year, I will have to come one day earlier and leave one day later.
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 7:24pm
Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 9:24pm
JimT wrote:
GenomicsKnight wrote:
Anyway, how's your trip to Vegas? Did you have a good time in the turney?
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Check out my thread here
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22916 - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22916
I more or less poured out my overall impressions - post by post...
In a nutshell, I am happy I went but not happy how I played. If I am coming next year, I will have to come one day earlier and leave one day later.
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I agree. I've tried to plan for Nationals and Open as at least a whole week trip for the last two years. Hopefully I can make it next year.
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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 10:40pm
Thanks for re-encoding the vids.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 4:33pm
Here is more for you, Manchester freaks
Final men's Teams: China vs France
Kong Linghui vs J.P. Gatien: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B1FJQHWY - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B1FJQHWY Liu Guoliang vs Patrick Chila: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CJ4F49F7 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CJ4F49F7 Wang Tao vs Damien Eloi: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6EEQ2O6B - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6EEQ2O6B Liu Guoliang vs J.P.Gatien: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GNOS8DHD - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GNOS8DHD
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 4:37pm
And more from Teams. China vs Sweden
Kong Linghui vs J.O.Waldner: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HHSWAWMI - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HHSWAWMI Wang Tao vs Jorgen Persson: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZP0TUYRA - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZP0TUYRA
and more...
France vs Belgium: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0ZMFWOIU - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0ZMFWOIU
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 4:51pm
This videos can not be watched .
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 4:53pm
And more from singles
Liu Guoliang vs A.Karakasevic + Jorgen Persson vs Wang Liqin:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GU37R5MP - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GU37R5MP
and
Hiroshi Shibutani vs J.M.Saive + Vladimir Samsonov vs Ma Lin:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KATC61M0 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KATC61M0
and
Kalinikos Kreanga vs Ma Wenge
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Enjoy!
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 4:56pm
Vladovich wrote:
This videos can not be watched . |
I dunno - I downloaded them and watched them just fine today.
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 4:56am
Semi-final Waldner-YanSen Divx (full match)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MX2DZM2N
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 10:43am
gluon wrote:
Semi-final Waldner-YanSen Divx (full match)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MX2DZM2N
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It's wooooorkiiiingggg .
Great picture, gluon you are a genius!
Which program did you use to encode this video? If it is not so complicated, I would like to use it to encode these two Liu Guoliang matches, because they are not watchable for me right now.
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Posted By: Thunder Boult
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 4:16pm
Waldner Vs YanSen is the greatest match ever in terms of standard of play.
YenSen was absolutely steaming, killing the tightest balls ever. Waldner does not even wait for the end of a game to change his tactics he makes a huge come-back in the first and just completely dominates thereafter.
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 7:02pm
Vladovich wrote:
Which program did you use to encode this video?
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I use Virtual Dub 1.5.1 (build 15746/release) I will post the others match soon
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 7:04pm
Semi-final Samsonov-KongLinghui DivX
part1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EK6OO93F part2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O24KPY1B
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 11:59am
gluon wrote:
Vladovich wrote:
Which program did you use to encode this video?
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I use Virtual Dub 1.5.1 (build 15746/release) I will post the others match soon
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Chu li!
I downloaded this version and succesfully convert Liu Guoliang matches into Divx. I have just changed compresion to Divx and click on save as AVI. And it works!
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Posted By: Jura12
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 10:46am
I use Virtual Dub 1.5.3 and 1.8.7. Fail.What I mast to du? Help me pleas.
Gluon!Plz Matches DivX!!!
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 1:28pm
Use VD 1.5.1
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Posted By: Jura12
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 1:50pm
What differ from?Where take?URL please?
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 3:01pm
Quarter final Gatien-Waldner DivX
part1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HG5YXBSF part2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2Y7ZI9X5
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 3:02pm
Round of 16 Waldner-Primorac DivX
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GWVR9640
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Posted By: tristan
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 3:35pm
Damn! How could Gatien defeat Waldner with such a weak forehand backhand ? His fast and deadly forehand is useless since he has no solid backhand. What a pity Jean-Philippe never re-invented this aspect of his gameplay!
Thanks for the divx re-encoding :)
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Posted By: ibupro
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 3:42pm
I wish my fh was just as useless.
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Posted By: tristan
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 4:01pm
Was Primorac under cocain ? ;) Walner was huge in this match! Great blocks and flips.
These old videos refresh my memory, since I forgot tt was so fast at that time. Thanks again.
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 10:01pm
yes, 40mm ball was the worst rule in my opinion, even worse than speedglue ban.
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Posted By: tristan
Date Posted: 12/27/2008 at 6:11am
ibupro wrote:
I wish my fh was just as useless. |
Oups, I made a mistake! I meant with such a weak backhand. Of course :). Hi s forehand was a deadly weapon.
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 12/27/2008 at 6:03pm
Round of 32 Kreanga-Ma Wenge Divx
part 1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XYMFCKXY part 2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JOXAKZGO
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Posted By: gluon
Date Posted: 01/04/2009 at 5:47pm
Round of 32 Summary DivX
YanSen-KimTaekSoo part1: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6XFJGNTQ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6XFJGNTQ
Shibutani-JM.Saive Samsonov-MaLin part2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3Y3VPQTQ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3Y3VPQTQ
********************************************** Round of 64 Summary DivX
LiuGuoliang-Karakasevic Persson-WangLiqin
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O8RFPAR8 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O8RFPAR8
******************************************** Team's 1-4 FRA-BEL Summary DivX
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OW2C3BN1 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OW2C3BN1
******************************************* Team's 1-4 CHN-SWE Divx
Match2 KongLinghui-Waldner http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOXEMZRD - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VOXEMZRD
Match3 WangTao-Persson http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M57F6BVY - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M57F6BVY
****************************************** Final Men's team CHN-FRA Divx
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6594CHW2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6594CHW2
Match1 KongLinghui-Gatien Match2 LiuGuoliang-Chila Match3 WangTao-Eloi Match4 LiuGuoliang-Gatien
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Posted By: Hans Regenkurt
Date Posted: 01/05/2009 at 1:55am
Great videos from the normal days, thank you
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Posted By: shigzeo
Date Posted: 01/05/2009 at 2:52am
why does everyone use wmv?
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Posted By: waldnerfan
Date Posted: 04/01/2009 at 11:03am
im haveing lots of proplems playing this uploads on my pc.
downloads are fine but i keep getting a runtime issues and to contact adim for support any ideas?
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/01/2009 at 11:08am
shigzeo wrote:
why does everyone use wmv? |
Those are already existing videos uploaded to MU a long time ago. Whatever format was used to create them, it is still there... we are just sharing the links, we do not really create new videos ... no master tapes in our possession, alas!
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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 04/01/2009 at 11:10am
gluon wrote:
yes, 40mm ball was the worst rule in my opinion, even worse than speedglue ban.
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Yes it's rubbish, one day we will undo this rule by popular movement, unfortuently most young kids have never used a 38mm ball so they just don't understand about real table tennis :(
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Posted By: scottymang
Date Posted: 04/01/2009 at 5:28pm
Posted By: vader555
Date Posted: 04/19/2009 at 6:52am
JimT wrote:
Here is the final - WTTC 1997 - Waldner vs Samsonov
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1w61dsnh - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1w61dsnh
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ts3qtbvx - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ts3qtbvx
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i have downloaded these but the video is distorted, even on vlc player.. please help...
thank you very much
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/19/2009 at 10:48am
install CCCP codec package, and it should play fine...
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Posted By: Swiff
Date Posted: 04/20/2009 at 3:19am
Whoever said they use VLC media player. It's great! I use it for everything, I recommend it.
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 12:32pm
Instead of megaupload we will have to use YouTube for now
MS Final
J-O Waldner vs Vladimir Samsonov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7a_EhT9k7A - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7a_EhT9k7A
MS Semi
J-O Waldner vs Yan Sen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1SmfPoYhW4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1SmfPoYhW4
Wang Liqin vs Jorgen Persson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-mgReUQHyU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-mgReUQHyU
Liu Guoliang vs Aleksandar Karakasevic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymF8fxo9L0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymF8fxo9L0
He Zhi Wen vs Lucjan Blaszcyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKPyqltby5Q - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKPyqltby5Q
Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7itt8cgLb0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7itt8cgLb0
Excerpts from TV reports:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w3m1xD53Ug - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w3m1xD53Ug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1WDK1NGIX8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1WDK1NGIX8
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