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Topic: Seoul 1988
Posted By: ice592
Subject: Seoul 1988
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 4:31pm
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Here's a story about table tennis in Seoul in 1988.
This is the first time table tennis made its appearance in the Olympics. You can see legends such as: Tibor Klampar, Desmond Douglas, Jiang Jialiang, Chen Longcan, Ding Yi ... French side: Philou and Patrick Birocheau Merry Christmas ! File xvid 671 Mo 608x464 pixels : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MF0F45XN - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MF0F45XN |
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Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 4:46pm
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One of the greatest tournaments ever. The men's singles final between Yoo Nam Kyu and Kim Ki Taek was breathtaking. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki club |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 6:11pm
Thanks much! Terrific video. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
ice592 wrote:Posted By: petermoo
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 6:52pm
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ICE592 this is some awesome table tennis!
This is some of the most fantastic action I have ever seen in one tournament.
Makes me wish back for those small ball, 21 point, 5 serve, glue bat , no red black days.
The variety of styles is amazing compared to nowadays and the rallies are awesome.
And Klampar! wow!
I dont mean to be greedy but ICE592 if you have more please let us have em!
(Did I mention I liked the video?)
Petermoo
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Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 7:20pm
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Table tennis (= 21 points, small ball, 5 serves, speed glue, variety of styles) is much more interesting and spectacular sport compared to today's Basement Ping Pong ( =11 points, 2 serves, 40 mm. ball, no speed glue, banned long pips etc). ------------- Single Ply Hinoki club |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 7:24pm
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It is very interesting to see technique of at least three generations presented before you, and competing against each other. Klampar and Ding Yi certainly play like a 1970s players, almost all the rest of them play in 1980s style except for Persson and Koreans who certainly resemble style of 1990s more than the others. Even Waldner, I think, is still playing the 1980s game... and did you see young Lupi there? ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: rpbnakata
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 7:48pm
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Ice592, thank you very much! This is one of the best videos I've
already seen. BTW, you are doing a great job uploading a lot of stuff.
Cheers.
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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 8:02pm
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This is a hot vid right here. Still downloading it though lol. ------------- Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect Yinhe Qing |
Posted By: krupp
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 8:44pm
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thank you! ice592 very good video for me... ------------- Honsai Butterfly A.Umemura YASAKA Mark V DONIC VARIO Honsai-2 TIBHAR Lucjan Blaszczyk DONIC VARIO DONIC VARIO |
Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 8:49pm
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I download it now and from what is written in the other posts I am sure that it is going to be a great video... I have only seen the final from Olympics '88... So, thanks ice592! ------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 10:17pm
i dont undertand why yoo nam kyu with that agility never won any single tittle after that, is one of thaT players that prefer to play a sleek flashy style and dont like to score
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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 10:18pm
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What ever happened to Kim Ki Taek lol. Jiang Jialiang lost to Erik Lindh, but Taek beat waldner. ------------- Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect Yinhe Qing |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 11:42pm
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omg! jean michel saive still had the baby shorts! god hes so young back then!
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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/22/2008 at 11:46pm
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omg! the infamous russian backhands were so good back then, no wonder smirnov, kuzmin and igor all kickass on that bh side!
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Posted By: XxbOOmxX
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 12:00am
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fabulous video. did not know the language but man the matches were great. history is still being made. ------------- Acoustic FL FH: IQUL 2.2 BH: Nimbus Soft 2.0 (about to kick the bucket) http://tinyurl.com/ATTA-Club-Photos - http://tinyurl.com/ATTA-Club-Photos |
Posted By: rpbnakata
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 5:52am
I also still don't understand how Jiang lost that quarterfinal against Lindh. Jiang was fast as a lightning bolt. Waldner has never played well against short pips players. He learned how to play Liu Guoliang after several defeats, but he struggled during his whole career. JO lost to: Jiang (87 Worlds), Kim Ki Taek (88 Olympics and 89 Worlds team), Guoliang (95 Worlds and later some protours), Johnny Huang (96 Olympics), Tasaki (97 Worlds team), etc. ------------- Phenom st/BW3/Ω3Euro ● Photino st/Ω4Pro/R7S ● Speed 90 fl/Vega Euro/S3 |
Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 8:54am
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Wow I didn't know tasaki beat waldner. If ANYONE has that video PM ME. ------------- Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect Yinhe Qing |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 9:34am
liu beat waldner in 1996 world cup and ahn shu beat waldner a lot of times in swedish league since 1993
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Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 3:26pm
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Simply amazing. So many legendary players. There were some very exciting and intense matches that I've ever seen. ice592, thanks for sharing!
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Posted By: kalinikos
Date Posted: 12/23/2008 at 7:20pm
| Thnks so much for sharing its great to see the clash of the different styles |
Posted By: hubie60
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 8:39am
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Even though these were the first players I saw on video, I'd never had a comprehensive look at the 1988 Olympics ... until now. Please accept my thanks. It was especially good to see the moody genius of Lezcek Kucharski of Poland. |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 8:47am
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kucharski is like a safin, only he was the first! loved the shouts and outcries, he was once in the top 10 of the world
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Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 9:40am
Wow, so long ago. Hardly having someone remembering something that is 20 years ago. 
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Posted By: Eriko
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 1:12pm
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the atmosphere around Waldner - Kim Ki Taek was amazing :) Klampar's movements are weird, he's so good though xD Great video :) ------------- I'm always in love |
Posted By: zzzuppp
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 1:45pm
I remember it well! Yoo shouting 'Ossa!' after every point he won sticks in my mind. Lindh beating Jiang was the major talking-point; Jiang's-and China's five-year decline started from here. Jiang was very nervous,and Lindh,-who could be just as fast and tricky as Jiang,by the way-took advantage.Lindh took revenge for Waldner the year before. I'd love to know what Gatien is saying about each of the competitors,but his French is too fast for me. What was your source,Ice?? Have you got anything else like this from the same era? 1985 Worlds for instance (equally difficult to find videos of). |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 2:32pm
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Absolutely AMAZING!!! The best gift for Xmas. Many Many Thanks. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: ice592
Date Posted: 12/24/2008 at 4:39pm
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For zzzuppp : VHS of my collection is my source. I look after other treasure... |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 4:47am
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ice592, this video just made me realise, that TIBOR KLAMPAR WAS IN THE SEMI FINALS!!! he beat chen longcan? holy smokes! and what? he was 35 or something? jesus! hungarians ftw! ------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 11:16am
Isn't that amazing? Just looking at him makes you wonder if we are watching some match from 1978... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: rossicarbon
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 4:12pm
theman, Cam got knocked out in the 2nd round of this tournament..
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Posted By: Ginko Tai Kim
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 5:02pm
Was he playing for HK at the time Rossi? ------------- http://avatars.jurko.net"> 
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Posted By: rossicarbon
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 6:23pm
| That when he represents Australia... |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 6:40pm
who did he lose to? ------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 7:30pm
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I really hope that ice592 has some more of that old stuff! How about Barcelona and Atlanta highlights?
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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 8:25pm
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guys i need help, my coach has this old VCR tape [12 yrs old] it is the kuwait open in ites early days where it was first introduced by the ITTF as a pro tour open. the matches are primorac vs grubba, and saive vs rosskopf. ------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 12/25/2008 at 9:50pm
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ice, thanks a lot for the video. Great stuff. I wish I could get the results of all the matches from this tournament. ------------- who no know go know |
Posted By: DaniloDividina
Date Posted: 12/26/2008 at 2:16am
I've watched the video (about 65%) and saw the match of Tibor Klampar vs Ding Yi. It seems that Tibor has no problem beating Yi's style. I salute Tibor's style of play in winning the match thru rallies and not merely dependent on service. Worthy to watch is the match against Gatien where the latter learns a lesson from the legend. Nice Video but megaupload s*cks!It took me 1 whole day to download and when it reaches 97%, my lappy broke out!  Can anyone re-upload the video in another uploader- rapidshare or easyupload...pls  ------------- 
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Posted By: ryu seungminfan
Date Posted: 12/27/2008 at 9:14am
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thanks for the vid!!! kim was like a wall, no one could break through it! ------------- blade:kokutaku super rubber:xiom omega 3 right hander nothing without labour |
Posted By: cmugica
Date Posted: 12/28/2008 at 6:26am
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Thank you, this was a very nice video.
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Posted By: zzzuppp
Date Posted: 12/28/2008 at 4:44pm
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On the subject of Klampar-he had a bit of an Indian summer around then.
The following year (1989) he reached the Quarter-Finals of the Worlds, beating Kim Ki Taek and Primorac among others,before Waldner (the eventual winner) took him out. |
Posted By: CP/JP
Date Posted: 01/08/2009 at 10:46am
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First thanks to ice 592 for this highly interesting documentary. btw, did Kim Ki-taek play with a Butterfly Senkoh-5? What pips did he use on his blade?
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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/08/2009 at 7:11pm
a bit late for that isnt it? 
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Posted By: CP/JP
Date Posted: 01/09/2009 at 11:06am
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I'm just curious ;) A friend of mine got such a blade on last Christmas W7o rubber.
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Posted By: tatapx
Date Posted: 01/18/2009 at 1:09am
Thank you, I made the file smaller to make it easier for slower broadband user. http://www.tatapx.org/tag/video/ ------------- "Go to where the ball is going, not to where it is." |
Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 03/13/2009 at 6:26am
The rubber is Butterfly Resilon Kawa. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki club |
Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 03/13/2009 at 5:57pm
Thanks for the re-upload. I appreciate it. That megaupload has never worked for me.
Just some random thoughts:
1. Cookie took out Gatien. Wow! But then again, Klampar, Saive and Jiang did too. However, Gatien's game hadn't matured yet and my guess is that most players at this time period haven't discovered the benefits of priming and multi-layering of speed glue
 2. Somebody was asking about Yoo Nam Kyu after winning the 1988 Gold. I don't know how he did in the 1989 Worlds but he did well in the 1991 Worlds making it to the quarters before losing to Ma Wenge who then lost to Waldner in the semis. In 1993, he got taken out in the early rounds by a Czech player named Roland Vimi. If you haven't seen this Vimi play, his backhand is pretty devastating. In 1997, Yoo lost to Carl Prean. But who really cares how you do after you win the Worlds or Olympics... unless you're Chinese
3. I'm guessing the Chinese were only able to send 3 guys? They opted for Xu Z. instead of Teng Yi? He won the World Cup in 1987. I guess they wanted a looper. Xu looks like the beta version of Ma Wenge, Chen Zhibin or even Liu Guozheng, except Xu was on blocking mode more.
Speaking of blocking, do you guys notice how the players from these days try to "find" their put away shot more? They spent more time blocking and slow spinning. Now, at the international level, you better kill that ball or put your opponent in bad position on your 2nd or 3rd shot.
4. Is that Seiji Ono the 1979 Men's Singles World Champion or am I mistaken? If I'm right, how nice of him to make an appearance. I'm glad Japan is on the comeback trail as far as building a better team now with Mizutani and Matsudaira.
5. Klampar really has a nice groove against close to the table pips out penholders. Took out Ding Yi, then Chen Longcan. But how did he lose badly to Kim Ki Taek?
6. Kim Ki Taek was playing well though. He took out Xu Z. and the Chinese loopers are pretty good against the classic pips out penholders.
7. Kucharski had a nice match against Waldner! Kucharski... the pain, the passion, the excitement all rolled into one
8. I can't believe Lindh had a big celebration after his net dribbler at match point against Jiang. But then again, if I just beat the 2-time and defending World Champion in the Olympic Games, I'd be pretty excited too even if it was an edge ball or net dribbler. Jiang was a good sportsman though. Can you imagine if that happened to Kucharski?
9. Hey, what was the deal with the finals when they were both talking to the same coach? "Ok guys, try to beat each other. Good luck."
Thanks again for sharing the video. I've always said that when it comes to exciting rallies and style variations, nothing beats the 1987 Worlds. But the 1988 Olympics is up there too because hey, it's pretty much the same players.
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Posted By: Robert Trudell
Date Posted: 03/13/2009 at 7:33pm
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Here's another version -
http://www.outpost81.com/olympic/1988_Sean_ONeill.htm - 1988 Seoul Olympics - Seoul, South Korea - Table Tennis Olympic Debut
--Rob
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 03/13/2009 at 11:58pm
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Cool! Thanks, Rob!
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Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 03/19/2009 at 10:30pm
it says i've got the codec but i'm not getting any picture, just sound (using windows media player). any advice? ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 03/19/2009 at 10:42pm
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Try downloading VLC player. It plays 99 percent of everything. Your system admin might even have it already. It is part of the baseline on some systems. U still winnin' wit da GTS? ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 03/20/2009 at 11:19am
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yeah good idea. i'll grab the vlc later today. GTS is serving me well but it's between rubbers right now. i got a new sheet of Red 999T on 2.2 quattro and a new black 2.2 quattro to put on it ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 03/21/2009 at 9:34am
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VLC did the trick for this file thanks for the vid ice! ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: hafiziy
Date Posted: 03/25/2009 at 1:23am
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thanx 4 the video.
Amazing Kim ki Taek. Never seen p.o play like that. Smash everything.So quick..what happen to him after Olym?
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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 03/25/2009 at 8:12am
one hit wonder i guess ------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: zzzuppp
Date Posted: 03/25/2009 at 9:42am
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Actually he'd been around for a while,made the QF of the Worlds in 83 and 85.
After the Olympics he played in the 89 Worlds but was taken out by.....Klampar! With the rise of Kim Taek Soo,Kang Hee Chan,Lee Chul Seung and others,KKT faded out of the Korean side. |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 12/17/2012 at 4:30pm
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Any chance that someone would be willing to upload this 1988 Olympics video again? |
Posted By: Robert Trudell
Date Posted: 12/18/2012 at 10:58am
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> Any chance that someone would be willing to upload this 1988 Olympics video again? It's still there. http://www.outpost81.com/olympic/1988_Sean_ONeill.htm - http://www.outpost81.com/olympic/1988_Sean_ONeill.htm --Rob |
Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 12/18/2012 at 11:20am
Oh, geez - I missed link on your site. Thank you so much.  |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 12/18/2012 at 2:42pm
I played a jap guy with a similar style of Kim Ki Taek. He was young and fit and, of course, very fast. There´s absolutely no chance to win against someone like that if you are slower than him. The dude smashed everything, from my serves to loop drives. But in 85 worlds KKT was destroyed by Jiang Jialiang. The chinese player was much faster than him by that time. BTW, great video!
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