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Topic: Korbel Speed Review
Posted By: speedy
Subject: Korbel Speed Review
Date Posted: 07/17/2009 at 11:37pm
I will make it short.  It's faster, harder, and heavier than the Petr Korbel.  Is it better?  Well, it depends on how you looking at it.  Here are my thought:

1.  Faster -  I like this characteristic of the blade since we don't use speed glue anymore.  The throw is lower than the Petr Korbel.  So, this one is better for mid-distance game than the Petr Korbel.

2.  Harder - Because of its hardness, you should to use soft rubbers with this blade.  It's really good with my pips (Flarestorm).  It's has more power than Flarestorm on T5000.

3.  Heavier - This is the bad side of this blade.  It weighs 93.3 grams.  The head is heavy.  So, for forehand power-loop is good.  It is also good for counter looping at mid-distance.  However, the backhand flat hit with the wrist is not an ideal blade.  I don't think I will play with this blade because of this reasons.

Sorry, I am too lazy right now to write a long, detailed, well-organized review.  I am just too tired from the practice tonight. 






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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)



Replies:
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 07/17/2009 at 11:42pm
Hmm, the surface is Koto not Limba, so it's not a thicker version of korbel Embarrassed

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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
182 Gr



Posted By: aurelio
Date Posted: 07/17/2009 at 11:42pm
The blade looks really great! A pity it's slightly heavy.

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Galaxy K5
Tenergy 05
Gambler Outlaw


Posted By: metalone
Date Posted: 07/17/2009 at 11:55pm
Did you get a heavy blade, Butterfly lists the weight as 82 grams:
 
faq_Speed.asp#speed - Speed : 8.2
faq_Control.asp#control - Control : 7.6
faq_Feel.asp#feel - Feel : Medium
Weight: 82g


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Gave up listing, too many changes.
Blade - Yes
BH - Rubber Red
FH - Rubber Black


Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 1:05am
Originally posted by metalone metalone wrote:

Did you get a heavy blade, Butterfly lists the weight as 82 grams:
 
faq_Speed.asp#speed - - Control : 7.6
faq_Feel.asp#feel - SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 1:07am
Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Hmm, the surface is Koto not Limba, so it's not a thicker version of korbel Embarrassed


I don't know what type of wood, but it's not Limba just like you said.


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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: bull_harrier
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 1:56am
I have 8 blades and my girlfriend thought i was nuts, so i showed her pictures of your collection so thanks for helping me out speedy, major props to your collection master

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Clipper CR WRB
FH: Boost TP
BH: Boost TP


http://www.youtube.com/user/bullharrier - My Biology/Physiology Learning Channel on Youtube


Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 2:25am
Originally posted by bull_harrier bull_harrier wrote:

I have 8 blades and my girlfriend thought i was nuts, so i showed her pictures of your collection so thanks for helping me out speedy, major props to your collection master


No problem bull_harrier LOL




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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: funpingpong
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 3:26am

I found on butterflyonline.com that it weigh only 82gr! Your Korbel Speed may be overweight?LOL

http://www.butterflyonline.com/online_store_productcloseup.asp?page=shakehand_blade1.asp&type=1&ID=134&pg=1&SortBy=b.image3&displayNum=5

I think it is light with weight 82gr!


Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 4:26am
butterfly japan write this blade mean weight as 88g.
but mine is 92~93g.
i think speedy blade is just normal weight.


Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 7:58am
Sounds like a very nice blade, it looks great too, the only thing I don't like about is the price.


Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 8:00am
what about the price?


Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 8:03am
Originally posted by mizutani_jun mizutani_jun wrote:

what about the price?
 
100 usd? Cmon man.


Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 8:06am
100usd?
you must be kidding.
i got mine from graeztch for only 30usd.
here in japan,most shop sell it at 50~60usd.
i dont think it cost that much.


Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 8:08am
Originally posted by mizutani_jun mizutani_jun wrote:

100usd?
you must be kidding.
i got mine from graeztch for only 30usd.
here in japan,most shop sell it at 50~60usd.
i dont think it cost that much.
 
butterflyonline prices are ridiculous then


Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 8:18am
yes right now butterfly or other maker all make the prices higher but 100usd is just insane.
iruiru have this blade.
just check at them.


Posted By: ThaiLe
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 10:55am
Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

Originally posted by mizutani_jun mizutani_jun wrote:

100usd?
you must be kidding.
i got mine from graeztch for only 30usd.
here in japan,most shop sell it at 50~60usd.
i dont think it cost that much.
 
butterflyonline prices are ridiculous then


They have been driving the customers away and still do.  There is only one guy from my club used to order from butterflyonline but he also finally stops.  I don't know if anyone still orders from them.



Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by funpingpong funpingpong wrote:


I found on butterflyonline.com that it weigh only 82gr! Your Korbel Speed may be overweight?LOL

http://www.butterflyonline.com/online_store_productcloseup.asp?page=shakehand_blade1.asp&type=1&ID=134&pg=1&SortBy=b.image3&displayNum=5

I think it is light with weight 82gr!


Too late for diet now... LOL


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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by mizutani_jun mizutani_jun wrote:

butterfly japan write this blade mean weight as 88g.
but mine is 92~93g.
i think speedy blade is just normal weight.


Oh, so I am not the only one got the overweight baby Korbel Speed LOL


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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 6:14pm
overweight baby Korbel Speed LOL.LOL
i`ve this blade since february.
you can see mine on pictures of your blades threads.
i`m using inspirit on forehand and IQUL on backhand side.
but i`m decided to try IQUL both sides.
so maybe this weight is just good for me.


Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 6:19pm
pics of mine.


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 07/18/2009 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by mizutani_jun mizutani_jun wrote:

yes right now butterfly or other maker all make the prices higher but 100usd is just insane.
iruiru have this blade.
just check at them.



butterfly NA is distributed under Martin Kilapatrick so he charges what he damn well pleases.

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Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon
Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
Yinhe Qing


Posted By: Yakult
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 12:15am
I got this blade during the april-march period from graeztch, its solid and a bit faster than the normal korbel , but in terms of feel.. the old korbel won. =)

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defense alpha

bluefire m1 2.0

grass d.tecs ox





Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 12:48am
Originally posted by Yakult Yakult wrote:

I got this blade during the april-march period from graeztch, its solid and a bit faster than the normal korbel , but in terms of feel.. the old korbel won. =)
 
can you give your blade`s weight?
just curious if someone get the lighter one.


Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 12:49am
Originally posted by Yakult Yakult wrote:

I got this blade during the april-march period from graeztch, its solid and a bit faster than the normal korbel , but in terms of feel.. the old korbel won. =)


I am with you on this one...


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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: Yakult
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 1:34am
91-92g  , FL handle

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defense alpha

bluefire m1 2.0

grass d.tecs ox





Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 1:59am
i feel like this might be a good tenergy blade?

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Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon
Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
Yinhe Qing


Posted By: Yakult
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 2:05am
I've tried few chinese rubbers on FH with it , a bit head heavy but still Okay. I wonder how it's like with tenergy 05 or other fast tensors.

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defense alpha

bluefire m1 2.0

grass d.tecs ox





Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 7:29am
Originally posted by Yakult Yakult wrote:

91-92g  , FL handle


seems like my guess is right.
bty said on website that it mean weight is 88g but 92g seems like normal to me.



Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

i feel like this might be a good tenergy blade?


I would say the same.  I think Tenergy 64 will be best for this blade, I think...


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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 3:34pm
its probably one of the best looking blades butterfly has ever made.

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Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon
Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
Yinhe Qing


Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

its probably one of the best looking blades butterfly has ever made.


common :/
nothing beats Mizutani Jun blade in terms of looks, even some boll series blades are amazing..but for the price it looks nice :o

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Member of Wang Hao fan club.

Hurricane Hao III
FH: Thors
RPB: Omega Pro


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

its probably one of the best looking blades butterfly has ever made.


common :/
nothing beats Mizutani Jun blade in terms of looks, even some boll series blades are amazing..but for the price it looks nice :o


just so everyone knows if you are paying over 55$ for this blade (w/o shipping) your getting robbed

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Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon
Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
Yinhe Qing


Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 6:58pm
people who live in Asia are lucky, my Amultart CS was 210$ with shipping, I know I got robbed but is there any other alternative? Not really! since I called Butterflyonline.com and they said it has been discontinued.

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Member of Wang Hao fan club.

Hurricane Hao III
FH: Thors
RPB: Omega Pro


Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/19/2009 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

its probably one of the best looking blades butterfly has ever made.


common :/
nothing beats Mizutani Jun blade in terms of looks, even some boll series blades are amazing..but for the price it looks nice :o


just so everyone knows if you are paying over 55$ for this blade (w/o shipping) your getting robbed


Well, I got robbed then... Cry


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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 07/20/2009 at 12:32am
Originally posted by speedy speedy wrote:


Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

its probably one of the best looking blades butterfly has ever made.


common :/
nothing beats Mizutani Jun blade in terms of looks, even some boll series blades are amazing..but for the price it looks nice :o


just so everyone knows if you are paying over 55$ for this blade (w/o shipping) your getting robbed
Well, I got robbed then... Cry


well its worth it anyway.

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Gewo Aruna Hinoki Carbon
Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 53 SuperSelect
Yinhe Qing


Posted By: aurelio
Date Posted: 07/20/2009 at 7:37am
where can i get this blade from?

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Galaxy K5
Tenergy 05
Gambler Outlaw


Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 07/20/2009 at 9:01pm
Butterfly products are always expensive.  However, some Asian countries sell their products much cheaper (compared to BTYonline).  They are real though.  Some speculate that those are QC-passed products (still excellent) but not visually as beautiful as the ones sent to the US or Europe.  I don't know about this.  Or my guess is they are priced lower to match the buying power of customer.  If that is true, man, imagine their profit margin !!!


Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 07/20/2009 at 11:43pm
Originally posted by doraemon doraemon wrote:

Butterfly products are always expensive.  However, some Asian countries sell their products much cheaper (compared to BTYonline).  They are real though.  Some speculate that those are QC-passed products (still excellent) but not visually as beautiful as the ones sent to the US or Europe.  I don't know about this.  Or my guess is they are priced lower to match the buying power of customer.  If that is true, man, imagine their profit margin !!!


This is true with packaging... I don't know if the blade quality are the same... I can't confirm that... but I feel like the ones I got from ButterflyOnline are much more solid and nicer than the one I got from Dandoy.


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SPEEDY
Viscaria Super ALC ST
JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH)
Nittaku Moristo SP (BH)


Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 07/20/2009 at 11:56pm
Originally posted by speedy speedy wrote:

Originally posted by doraemon doraemon wrote:

Butterfly products are always expensive.  However, some Asian countries sell their products much cheaper (compared to BTYonline).  They are real though.  Some speculate that those are QC-passed products (still excellent) but not visually as beautiful as the ones sent to the US or Europe.  I don't know about this.  Or my guess is they are priced lower to match the buying power of customer.  If that is true, man, imagine their profit margin !!!


This is true with packaging... I don't know if the blade quality are the same... I can't confirm that... but I feel like the ones I got from ButterflyOnline are much more solid and nicer than the one I got from Dandoy.


How about the look? is the one from butterflyonline has better finishing?


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Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr
H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2
Baracuda Max
182 Gr



Posted By: Jeff(ATTC)
Date Posted: 07/21/2009 at 1:14am
Originally posted by doraemon doraemon wrote:

Butterfly products are always expensive.  However, some Asian countries sell their products much cheaper (compared to BTYonline).  They are real though.  Some speculate that those are QC-passed products (still excellent) but not visually as beautiful as the ones sent to the US or Europe.  I don't know about this.  Or my guess is they are priced lower to match the buying power of customer.  If that is true, man, imagine their profit margin !!!
  This statement is very true.  In Vietnam I was able to get an Ishlion for 80 USD!!! Compare to $150 in the US!!!


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Bty Jun Mizutani ZLC
FH: D80
BH: D05



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