a FULL h3 neo review
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Topic: a FULL h3 neo review
Posted By: palu83xoo
Subject: a FULL h3 neo review
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 2:25pm
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so i got my new h3 neo in the mail a few weeks ago. been playin with it since then. i play with a donic persson power play which is a softer 5ply wood blade. i should mention that i play with the new chinese style of looping... explanation: chinese players now-a-days keep their rackets at relatively the same angle and adjust the angle that their arm follows through. ill only be reviewing h3 as a forehand side rubber. ill also be comparing it to the sheet that i switched from, tenergy 64. here it goes. opening/gluing:_________________ holy crap this stuff is tacky. it might be that i havent played h3 since the glue ban but it feels tackier than normal. the sponge is glossy and looks like theres a dry layer of glue on it already. serving:________________________ amazing. sooo much spin on serves. definitely steps up tenergy here. good speed and very easy to control. i feel like i can serve like He Zhi Wen ;) you seriously dont even have to try to make the ball do a "C" on the table. everything stays low too. thumbs up here. 10/10 for serving countering:_____________________ "LOL" counters. it sounds like your hitting with just the wood of the blade! the click is crazy. countering gives you a taste of the control of this rubber. everything goes exactly where i want it to without much effort at all. blocking:_______________________ blocking with this rubber is just great. its so easy to place blocks against even the highest level loops/drives. its easy to control the depth of your blocks as well. much easier to block with h3 than t64. id give h3 neo a 8/10 for blocking. there are rubbers with more control out there, but this one mixes control with other elements very well. looping/counterlooping:___________ this is what the h3 neo was made for. producing low, spinny, and fast loops with ease. which i think it does perfectly. on loop to loop ralleys, the h3 outperforms just about anything ive ever played before. close to the table or at a distance this rubber can just keep dishing out powerful loops. topspinning loop balls close to the table is where this rubber shines. easy to control where your shots go and there is spin for days. opening loops are easy as pie once you get comfortable with this rubber. a perfect 10/10 for looping short game/flipping:____________________ pushing and chopping is nice but a little slow. im not complaining im just saying this is where the h3 neo doesnt do all the work for you "LOL." it does take some effort and good feeling to make fast/short pushes but the spin is there no matter what. lotta lotta backspin from just pushing a ball. flipping is where this rubber lacks a tad. the low angle of the rubber will make you dread flipping if you dont have the feel for it. however if youre experienced with flipping, this rubber is great. your shots will be spinny as all hell and easy to place. for short game i give the h3 neo a 7.5/10 conclusion:____________________________ the h3 neo is my new favorite forehand rubber. good job dhs. i recommend this rubber for players 1700+. the tackiness stays true for about 2 weeks then starts to die down. some paraffin oil can fix that ;) this rubber in the hand of a consistent topspin player can do wondrous things. id give it overall a 8.5/10. h3 neo definitely outloops nimbus v.i.p as well as tenergy 64 if you know how to use it. if you like chinese rubbers, do yourself a favor and pick up some neo. its a great rubber with great feel. you wont be dissapointed. store: www.powerpingpong.com |
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Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 2:32pm
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Nice review o.0
------------- Member of Wang Hao fan club. Hurricane Hao III FH: Thors RPB: Omega Pro |
Posted By: wyatt
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 2:37pm
hmmmm sounds marketing.  if not, that would work well for my style. Anyway, how is the hardness? I think I saw somewhere that H3 are highThrow rubbers, H2 are low.. Or is it just the old versions? |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 3:18pm
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Is it slower than T64? ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 4:06pm
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How is the throw angle low on a hurricane 3? that part did sound marketing. Hurricane 3 has one of the highest throws out there. which also makes it flip rather easy. hmmm question mark.. also dhs' hurricane 3 is made for absolutely everyone just. 5 year old kids in china use it and provincial team use it and national team use it. ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: ttrubberman
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 8:11pm
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Nice review. But I think that the throw of looping is high. |
Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 9:42pm
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I don't think he said H3Neo is low throw, He said he can create a low spinny loops with it. It's possible if he loops with a close angled blade..
------------- 'Nobody is Perfect. I am Nobody' |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 10:07pm
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Sounds impressive :), are you doing one for the other rubbers also?or you just played H3? ------------- |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 10:11pm
The topsheets and throw have remained the same h3=mid, h2=low, they do play a little different due to the sponge having changed but h3 is still h3 and h2 is still h2 ------------- |
wyatt wrote:Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 08/07/2009 at 10:28pm
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Thanks for the referral palu83xoo, but could you specify which Hardness and what color you got from me? I am powerpingpong.com. My own experience with H3NEO on a softer wood ply (OC/CR) was not as good as it was on a harder wood ply (Clipper CR). But I'm sure that's just my own taste. Also, were you using 64/H3 on your FH or BH? Thank you ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16722&KW= - CaGaragesales Feedback |
Posted By: palu83xoo
Date Posted: 08/09/2009 at 12:37am
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sorry i made a bit of a typo in the flipping section. the h3 doesnt have a low throw. it is fairly high but i was actually comparing the h3 to the t64 which in my oppinion is higher... sorry!
i am playing with h3 neo black 39 harness on the forehand side. i think my persson power play is a good match for this rubber. its not too soft and it has great feeling for allaround offenseive play, not just looping.
and sorry but i wint be reviewing the other neo rubbers.. im stickin with the h3 for a while
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Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 08/09/2009 at 4:06am
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It's getting more and more tempting to get this rubber... What is and where do you get ' paraffin oil '? Sorry I've never tuned/boosted/speed glued anything ever before! ------------- I'm 15 Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
Posted By: sadius
Date Posted: 08/09/2009 at 10:42am
| Paraffin oil = Lamp oil and you could find in any department store at camping section |
Posted By: palu83xoo
Date Posted: 08/09/2009 at 12:36pm
| lol i dont really use any kind of oil. its ittf illegal, just a small joke x] |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 08/09/2009 at 11:11pm
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lamp oil is kerosene, no? if so, that's *loaded* with VOCs... not that people who are tuning care. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 08/12/2009 at 11:54pm
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Baby oil is also parafin based oil. If it was for ITTF, they would surely prohibit its use on the baby soft backs.
H3 is not at all tacky. BW2 is tacky - it holds the ball for 16 seconds, H3 for less than 1/10 of the second.
I am now 20 days trying to find out any substantial difference between h3 old and H3 Neo P, and the only difference I see is the powder-like layer on the topsheet, the pre-glued sponge, and the absolute wrist smashing power on the BH. It's like Heckler & Koch. :)
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Posted By: 729 FX
Date Posted: 08/13/2009 at 6:42am
| Nice review there on H3, palu. |
Posted By: radu
Date Posted: 08/13/2009 at 8:43am
| what degree its the h3 neo r using? |
Posted By: wizz
Date Posted: 08/13/2009 at 10:37am
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Totoro - both affordablett and butterfly australia still sell booster / tuners - since they are banned they are mega cheap these days too.
Seriously though - 39 deg H3 sounds friggin sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!! |
Posted By: palu83xoo
Date Posted: 08/13/2009 at 3:36pm
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im using 39 but i think it goes to 40, which is also a different thickness i believe. check the store though i might be crazy xp ------------- persson power play h3 neo 2.2 t64 2.1 |
Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 08/13/2009 at 10:36pm
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Does anyone have any weights of uncut sheets of the various Neo H3 rubbers?
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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 08/14/2009 at 1:41am
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No but it should be about the same or slightly lighter than the H2 which is 62 grams
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Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 2:13am
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I wanted to ask about the throw of the H3 Neo. I'm starting to really hate the throw on my T05. All my spinney loops starting from below the table with my bat open always go off the table. Which of the two rubbers, T05/H3Neo has the higher throw? *hopes H3 has a lower throw* ------------- I'm 15 Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 2:32am
Mine was way lower...depends on the stroke, but mine were grazing the net. |
Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 2:40am
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YES! My Tenergy is freying on the edges... Not bad seeing as it has served me for about a year. Next rubber after it truly starts to die, H3Neo! 39 sponge. =D ------------- I'm 15 Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
Posted By: cntcasey
Date Posted: 01/31/2010 at 11:41pm
| Does the H3Neo have a hard sponge like the hurricane 2 rubber from DHS? |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/01/2010 at 12:10am
Probably I am contriving things, but the old com 39 deg is much softer that the Neo 38 deg Pro.
I must have artificially softened the sponge after tuning it four times in the last six months...
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Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 03/22/2010 at 8:19am
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I've been using my H3Neo 39 for about 3 weeks now. GREAAT RUBBER. It's less bouncy compared to my T05 which is good.
Off topic question: How does TG3 compare against H3? (neos) In terms of throw and speed? Thanks ------------- I'm 15 Clipper Wood FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees BH: Palio CK531A OX CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 03/22/2010 at 9:06am
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H3 Neo (orange) is a good chinese rubber, but like a little boosted h3. It is quite slow compared to Tenergy. It is not a live rubber like tenergy. It keeps on having that dead feeling. It has good control and it is more linear than BWII which is more powerful and less linear rubber than H3 Neo. H3 users can go to H3 Neo, without any problem. -------------  EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh);  InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: JoeMarioZ
Date Posted: 03/24/2010 at 7:57pm
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Is the H3Neo better for Bh or for Fh? ------------- Hurricane King III -Blade DHS Hurricane 3 Neo - Rubber FH Xiom Vega Pro - Rubber BH |
Posted By: Rack
Date Posted: 03/24/2010 at 8:51pm
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Definately FH. Tacky BH doesn't work too well as you'll eat too much spin. Also will be more difficult to generate power since the stroke will be much more compact. ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin YEO (1st) , Yasaka Extra CPEN (2nd) FH - H3 NEO Pro 2.15 40H BH - Tenergy 64 2.1 |
Posted By: JoeMarioZ
Date Posted: 03/24/2010 at 9:05pm
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Im using tenergy 64 for backhand, which is good but no great, would this rubber(64) go better on a HK 655 Neo? ------------- Hurricane King III -Blade DHS Hurricane 3 Neo - Rubber FH Xiom Vega Pro - Rubber BH |
Posted By: saif
Date Posted: 03/25/2010 at 3:28am
Totoro, I am keeping it simple.
Speed: TG3 neo>H3 neo
Spin: TG3 neo = H3 neo
Throw angle: TG3 Neo < H3 Neo
Control and dwell time: TG3 Neo < H3 Neo
Generally, performing loop driving from 3-5 feet away from table, TG3 neo is better and H3 neo is better for close to the table looping.
I think TG3 neo is more suitable for a advanced level player. ------------- TBS FH & BH: T05fx Tibhar Samsonov Alpha FH: Grip-S Europe BH: Rakza7 soft Victas Koji Matsushita FH: Tenergy 80 BH: Feint long III https://www.facebook.com/groups/5439549367/ |
Posted By: Brahms
Date Posted: 03/21/2011 at 5:14pm
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I didn't liked the H3 neo (red) on forehand. Quite hard and without feedback. I tried it this week and played with it 1 year ago.. I really prefer some 999 spiny series or Thor. Brahms ------------- Blade : Aero off+ soft carbon FH : Tuttle 888 Extraterrestrial 2.2mm BH : Dr Neubauer Killer Pro 1.8mm |
Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 03/21/2011 at 6:21pm
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i really don't see why people would want to try the red version of hurricane especially if they want it on the fh. the quality and playing characteristics just aren't the same.
------------- www.youtube.com/gsutabletennis Timo Boll Spirit FL H3 Blue Sponge Black FH Tenergy 64 Red BH |
Posted By: sharingan0619
Date Posted: 03/23/2011 at 8:07pm
| how long will the H3 neos last me until it is completely dead? |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 03/23/2011 at 9:56pm
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I'm @ 100hrs or so. It's still usable but it's also difficult to tell what r how much degradation has occurred without a new sheet to compre. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: zheyi
Date Posted: 03/24/2011 at 12:56am
| it depends how you clean the rubber also.. |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 03/24/2011 at 2:08am
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Revitalize it from time to time and always use reliable cleaners. |
Posted By: tomas.gt
Date Posted: 03/24/2011 at 4:00am
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why red? red topsheet is harder and keeps its properties for very long time. Stays tacky like...forever. I used to buy black H3neos, but only the first sheet was able to survive more than 20 hours. Other turned into crappy nontacky insensitive waste. Awfull quality from DHS. Red topsheet looks stable for months. Also, red topsheet pairs with sponge of 38 or 39 degrees much better than black topsheet with softer sponge. Red commercial H3N, when tuned, performs almost the same as red provincial H3N. So this is why red.
I would go for black only if I could change the rubber after 10-15 hours of play. ------------- Kokutaku Bishu no.1 ST - H3N red , BTfly Spinart 2.1 black |
Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 03/24/2011 at 4:42am
| I left a blade with a Red and Black Neo without covers during the off season. The Black was destroyed within 3 months? and had no more tack, it was ruined. The red was unharmed, a year later it's still fine. Go figure?, the red ones last longer for sure |
Posted By: simon_xuan
Date Posted: 03/24/2011 at 11:14am
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I don't think H3 Neo is better than the old version of H3, except for the reduced weight. I am moving away from H3 now, to be replaced with TG2, Thor, etc.
------------- RPB Rocks! BTY Innerforce ZLC Cpen | DHS H3N Blue Sponge | Victas V>15 Extra Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36695 |
Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 05/02/2011 at 9:39pm
Sirry Simon,I have to disagree with you here,as the Neo series is a vast upgrade both in terms of power & spin. ------------- AVALOX BLUE THUNDER |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 05/02/2011 at 10:43pm
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Tried H3 Neo on a BTY TBS and found it played like a brick. Poor ball feedback for both fh and bh. Nice spin when brush looping and serves but very unforgiving with incoming spin. Much better rubber choices await such as Tenergy 05 FX, Aircondle, J.O. Platin series, Thors, Bryce FX. The rubber sheets were heavy like a brick. Name should be called "Bricker". ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: Vassily
Date Posted: 05/03/2011 at 1:02am
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With H3 you have to play it the way IT wants to be played. Theres kinda only one shot (short range loopdrivy thing) its really special at. But its truly good for that shot, and it is a really useful common shot in games. When i used H3 I probably ended up winning more in proper games, since serves were far nastier and its good for that magic shot. Even spin variations on pushing were kinda big. But it was less fun somehow. It didnt provide the assistance to do (esp ridiculous out-of-position) shots that the softer bouncier dwellier ESN rubbers do. And I agree the feel was worse. I bought a commercial h3 neo. A good 38deg H3 prov (if it feels better and is a bit more elastic) might be the way to go for me, but its out of stock. Im happy with my current rubber anyway. ------------- Nittaku Acoustic FL T05 Acuda S2 2.0mm |
Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 05/03/2011 at 8:29am
There's nothing like H3  ------------- AVALOX BLUE THUNDER |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 05/03/2011 at 8:35am
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H2 is like H3, only better. They do not make any H2 Pro because the serial H2 commercial plays like provincial. |
Posted By: Ndragon88
Date Posted: 05/03/2011 at 9:06am
really? Wouldn't more people be using H2 then? Either way I will end up buying one to try lol. That along with TG2 and MAYBE TG3. H3Neo really is a fantastic rubber as probably all the Neo's are. and they so cheap. Nice one DHS  ------------- Stiga Clipper Skyline TG3 NEO/Palio Thors www.youtube.com/ndragon88 |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 05/03/2011 at 10:23am
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h2 was tackier, denser sponge, but better is subjective I would think. it could be that the quality control of h2 was better for at least a time, simply because there were times when the demand for h3 (esp odd versions) was so high that they were contracting out their formula and giving their spare molds to other companies to help meet demand.------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 05/03/2011 at 10:26am
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Are you saying that Hurricane series rubbers can be considered "best sellers" ------------- AVALOX BLUE THUNDER |
Posted By: Ndragon88
Date Posted: 05/03/2011 at 1:25pm
I would say that without a doubt ------------- Stiga Clipper Skyline TG3 NEO/Palio Thors www.youtube.com/ndragon88 |
Posted By: slowboytommy
Date Posted: 03/07/2014 at 1:47am
| is the h3 neo factory tuned? do you recommend boosting it? or should i just get a regular h3 and boost it? how long before i have to boost it again? |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 03/07/2014 at 2:22am
| It is just preglued. Boosting it will make the break-up time shorter. Of course, you can use also a rubber mallet... |