Paddle Palace Raitings
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Topic: Paddle Palace Raitings
Posted By: e1itepirate
Subject: Paddle Palace Raitings
Date Posted: 12/14/2009 at 12:27pm
| Do you think paddle palace's ratings are correct? They list Tenergy 25 as being faster then Tenergy 64 when butterfly says tenergy 64 is the fastest. When you compare their ratings to the manufacturer's they never match up. For example Nittaku lists naurcross ex hard as 12.2 speed and 10.8 spin; ex soft as 11.8 speed and 11.2 spin; and nodias as 10 speed and 10 spin. However paddle palace lists nodias as being faster then naurcross ex soft and just as spinny as ex hard. This is really making my life difficult in choosing my backhand rubber. I want a rubber good for blocking and counterhitting but I cant tell if naurcross ex hard is too fast for me, or nodias is going to be too spinny for me. |
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Posted By: the-mezz
Date Posted: 12/14/2009 at 12:38pm
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Yeah I actually had a similar experience buying from them. I learned the hard way that Juic 999 Elite is indeed NOT fast at all and incredibly soft, I took it off after two days of use.
I'd go with the manufacturers ratings, and try looking at another website. ------------- Offensive CR WRB H3 Neo 2.1 Gambler Aces PRO 2.15 |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/14/2009 at 2:16pm
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They (PP) claim they make their own ratings by testing the rubbers but I bet they don't test a hundred rubbers and then write down the average. taht's one thing that affects the veracity of their ratings. But quite often manufacturer's ratings are also a bunch of junk... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 12/14/2009 at 6:17pm
| Yeah, some seem really off and really biased, especially newer, expensive products. Like Aircondle being 9.8 speed and 9.2 spin, it does not have much spin at all compared to other rubbers, and it certainly isnt the fastest thing in the world which 9.8 would make it. Also Jo Platin soft, 9.5 speed and 9.7 spin and 7.4 control...I like the stuff, and it's good, but its not perfect, not that controled or that much spin I feel. |
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 12/14/2009 at 6:33pm
The PP ratings are odd, but setting those aside to address your rubber concern:
In my experience, the Nittaku Narucross EX Hard is an excellent rubber for blocking and counter-hitting. I used it myself for a long time, before I switched to Chinese rubbers. The only complaint I have with it is the top sheet falls apart rather quickly. I would play 5-7 days a week, 2-4 hours a day and my top sheet would start to fall apart after about a month. It was still usable, but it would really start to look like crap. I feel like I take good care of my rubber (clean it after every session, keep it covered, etc) but it still fell apart a bit too quickly for me (especially when at the time it was $40/sheet).
But performance-wise, I have no complaints.
EDIT: Three other people in my club use it as well. Two people, one a blocker and the other a counter-hitter, use it on their forehands, and another, a C-pen fast attacker, uses it on his backhand. They all think very highly of it ------------- Neo H3 40D| Offensive S | Tenergy 80 |
e1itepirate wrote:Posted By: ChopSmash
Date Posted: 12/14/2009 at 8:33pm
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I rarely agree with the *rubber* ratings from PP. But, then I don't tend to agree with most of the rubber ratings from any retailer. And, I've found no way to compare ratings between manufacturers. However, I do tend to agree with most of the *blade* ratings from PP, and many other sources. Well, at least I agree with the *speed* ratings. The *control* ratings are difficult to judge. ------------- Dawei Genote S FH Nittaku Hammond Pro β BH Yasaka Mark V |
Posted By: Thaidog
Date Posted: 12/14/2009 at 9:55pm
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PP ratings used to be in the ballpark but now with all these bulit-in speed glue effect rubbers they are all getting screwed up... especially the spin ratings. These new rubbers may produce that kind of spin with full strokes but not with pushes and serves. I think they should start adding what type of rubber it is eg tacky chinese style or Tensor ESN rubber. I would even like friction coefficients for all topsheets and degree sponge densities. ------------- Timo ALC FL Tibhar Grip S MAx Tenergy 64 FX National 2.1mm He never boosts... of course he never had to... |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 12/15/2009 at 12:50am
Yep. In the mid 90's. The problem with trying to class speed, spin or control with a single number is that it's doesn't even begin to accurately describe a rubber. -Some rubbers are only fast with full strokes (like DHS H2). -Some rubbers are fast with passive strokes (Donic F2) but you can bottom them out with full strokes and produce SLOWER shots than firmer sponge rubbers with the same swing speed. -Some rubbers produce massive spin with the topsheet but little spin on hard hits. -Some rubbers produce massive spin with the sponge, but very little spin on brushing contact. -Some rubbers produce a good spin on some strokes (pushes, blocks) but not much on others (loops, drives)... And you could argue that it's somewhat technique dependent and you'd be right. The bottom line is that trying to sum up the behaviors of a topsheet and sponge with a number between 1 and 10 is a bit of a joke. If the ITTF wanted to exert better control on the sport, they could sanction a third party to create a more objective ratings system for rubber properties - including comprehensive mechanical tests of the rubber's behaviors (like the old vs. new gambler outlaw video that those wonderful brits did). As a consumer, wouldn't you just kill for an accurate performance/rating system for rubbers? ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |