The 2010 Asia-Europe Allstars, 1st Leg
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Topic: The 2010 Asia-Europe Allstars, 1st Leg
Posted By: takaaki
Subject: The 2010 Asia-Europe Allstars, 1st Leg
Date Posted: 04/11/2010 at 11:50pm
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starts this tuesday, april 15, at 7:30 pm, beijing time or 1:30 pm CET or 7:30 am ET. it's a 2-day event, tuesday and thursday, starting at the same time on both days. and CCTV5 will carry it live. representing asia this time around will be: wang liqin (yay!!), joo se hyuk, mizutani jun, cheung yuk and yang zi. and the european team will be: samsonov, maze, ovtcharov, schlager and persson. go here to see the matchups: http://www.ettu.org/public/Image/Beijing_match_order2.pdf - http://www.ettu.org/public/Image/Beijing_match_order2.pdf enjoy!! |
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/11/2010 at 11:55pm
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Well this should be more interesting. Kinda funny though "Allstars" from Asia not including the current top ranked player in the world, reigning world champion, or reigning olympic champion...but hey, it'll be more competitive.
Looks like pretty good matchups all around though. |
Posted By: saif
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 1:06am
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I see Europe team has a good chance to win.
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Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 1:34am
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whos choose the player? ------------- DHS 032 Butterfly Bryce Highspeed Singapore & Canada |
Posted By: ErikaT
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 6:27am
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yea can watch wang liqin winning again!!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 9:14am
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ErikaT wrote:Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 9:36am
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Intresting matches, does somebody already knows what the matches will be in Belgium, Mons? (12-13 october)
I'll go the there to record. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 10:03am
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Joo joins ! woohoo ! Joo vs Schlager would be interesting but I would rather watch Joo vs Maze than Joo vs Persson -.-
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 11:31am
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Let's see what form Vladi is in... he hasn't played a tournament in a long time now. Although this is again an exhibition match, so I am not sure if we can look at it and properly judge their forms before Moscow.
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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 11:55am
Is two weeks a long time? (Volkswagen Cup, lost in 7 to Mizutani) He's also been playing in the ETTU Cup with the Orenburg club (currently in semifinals). |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 11:59am
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wow!! that's right!! evidently, like jim, i completely forgot. i wonder why?? it's like samsonov has become totally irrelevant, despite the fact that he's a top-10 player. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 11:59am
No I meant a ProTour or similar event. I was unclear there...  ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 12:02pm
I wouldn't be surprised if he changed his rubbers again, and then decided to wait until Moscow... not to mention he played a few matches in Russian Superleague, in Euro club matches, but I think he is biding his time till Moscow, trying to time his peak form for that. Perhaps after WTTC he will start playing ProTour again ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/12/2010 at 12:45pm
Hopefully he's spending most of his time coaching his team mates since it's a team competition. They would probably make it further if he focused on that rather than him adjusting to a new rubber. |
Posted By: mcd0nald
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 8:43am
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cheung yuk vs otcharov = 0-3 ------------- Timo Boll Spirit FH: NEO H3 Prov 38 degree (BLACK) BH: XIOM Vega Asia (RED) |
Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 8:59am
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Wang Ligin vs. Michael Maze is on cctv5 right now. Wang just won the first set 11-9. ------------- who no know go know |
Posted By: tusnelda
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 9:04am
| anywhere you can follow Wang Ligin Maze, beside television?? |
Posted By: mcd0nald
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 9:19am
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cctv 5
...watching over TVU player ------------- Timo Boll Spirit FH: NEO H3 Prov 38 degree (BLACK) BH: XIOM Vega Asia (RED) |
Posted By: tusnelda
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 9:23am
| any scores please |
Posted By: mcd0nald
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 9:29am
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2-2 wlq and maze
maze got match point, but wlq managed to equalize it ... now its final set ------------- Timo Boll Spirit FH: NEO H3 Prov 38 degree (BLACK) BH: XIOM Vega Asia (RED) |
Posted By: mcd0nald
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 9:40am
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m maze vs WLQ = 3-2 (12-10 last set) ------------- Timo Boll Spirit FH: NEO H3 Prov 38 degree (BLACK) BH: XIOM Vega Asia (RED) |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 9:41am
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Michael won, he was better in my opinion. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: tusnelda
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 9:42am
| Great win for Maze :-) 3-2 |
Posted By: mcd0nald
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 9:42am
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maze initiated to attack with his bh flick a lot against WLQ short serve
maze deserved to win ..... ------------- Timo Boll Spirit FH: NEO H3 Prov 38 degree (BLACK) BH: XIOM Vega Asia (RED) |
Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 10:30am
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Samsonov beat Mizutani 3-2. ------------- who no know go know |
Posted By: david93
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 10:33am
| Wang Lq played quite poor..too many unforced errors |
Posted By: rustyfo
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 10:41am
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videos of Maze - Wang would be great :)
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 10:54am
i'm not so sure about that. i think maze played him really smart today. he forced wlq to hit a lot of backhands and then he hooked his forehand out wide to wlq's backhand which he had a problem with. i wonder--is this the 1st time he's beaten him?? cuz on the few occasions i've seen maze play him, it's been an easy win for wlq. |
Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:02am
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Its probably the first time Maze beat Liqin, but, Liqin is a shadow of himself compared to a few years ago and he doesnt step around to his forehand as quick or as often as he used to. Good win nontheless. ------------- who no know go know |
Posted By: david93
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:17am
Of course Maze didn't play bad, he had a good tactic... But you won't say that a WLQ in average shape would have lost against Maze playing like this?! Maze definitely didn't play the best match of his life... |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:23am
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Wait...How's joo and schlager going ? Didn't see any scores and CCTV5 is not broadcasting tt now I think...I turn it on and there is some throwing dart competition going on :(
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:25am
| what?? where have you been?? it finished an hour ago!! |
Posted By: david93
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:25am
| Joo - Schlager 3:2 |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:26am
Also, I hope there will be a video topic as soon as possible 
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Posted By: Blackjack67
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:27am
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schlager was leading 2:0, then 5.set 11:9 for joo
anybody knows exact result of samsonov?
Fu**ing darts on CCTV
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Posted By: Kalin
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:28am
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Asia VS Europe 1 : 4 Joo Se Hyuk VS Werner Schlager 3:2 Cheung Yuk VS Dimitrij Ovtcharov 0:3 Wang Liqin VS Michael Maze 2:3 MIZUTANI Jun VS Vladimir Samsonov 2:3 Yang Zi VS Jorgen Persson 2:3 ------------- Setup: Blade:BTY Viscaria FH:Andro Rasant (1,9 mm Blk)BH:Soulspin P12(1,8 mm Red) |
Posted By: Blackjack67
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:34am
| i would need detailed results!!! who can help me !!! |
Posted By: shaolinTT
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 11:58am
| WLQ's loss would affect his chance of making the team going Moscow. |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:04pm
| Well, with the exception of the Maze vs Wang Liqin match, the higher ranked players won... no clue why/how Maze won today (as close as it was) over Wang Liqin when he got crushed just like a week ago against Ma Long. Guess Wang Liqin didn't bring his gameface to this match. |
Posted By: david93
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:12pm
Indeed, a loss to a non-chinese doesn't help him at all to get into the team... |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:19pm
Well, maybe this was a reason why they would take wang with them.
Now, they can tell wang what he did wrong, and give more instructions.
This is a great warm up for wang. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:24pm
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Here's the best point of the match between Maze and Wang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCj4ynb9W_M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCj4ynb9W_M ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: david93
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:27pm
You're the best :P Great point! |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:35pm
Interesting... I hear "Thock thock thock thock" same noise from both rackets. I guess Maze's Chinese coach taught him the Chinese style...of tuning. |
Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:37pm
http://www.euroasia-ettu.com/index2.php - http://www.euroasia-ettu.com/index2.php |
Posted By: rustyfo
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:38pm
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Maze's "Chinese coach" hasn't been living in China for at least a couple of years (could be much longer). He had been living in Sweden before becoming Maze's coach.
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Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:46pm
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Here the last points from Maze vs. Wang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQl36rAIzA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQl36rAIzA ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:55pm
lol, Maze hiding his last serves and getting the easy point. Just stick yer arm out there for a change from the usual cupped hand sideways toss... |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 12:56pm
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D-d-d-d-double post!
uuuuuuhm......uuuuuhm... 
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 1:16pm
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No Joo match yet :(( Does anyone know if we can watch all the matches some where online Like cctv or somewhere...
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Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 1:38pm
http://sports.cntv.cn/20100413/106367.shtml - http://sports.cntv.cn/20100413/106367.shtml ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 2:28pm
never went back home on vacation either???? |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 2:43pm
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Thanks man! You rock ;)
------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 2:47pm
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Guys, do you think Joo is more vulnerable against fast attack from both wings ? I think Schlager applied the tactics quite well at the beginning part, Joo didn't have much chance. So generally, choppers are easier to be beaten by players who can loop well both wings? Do you guys think so? Because the choppers will have less time to react and it seems to me, backhand loop is a bit harder to chop!?
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Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 3:02pm
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Looking forward to watching some European pwnage on youtube!
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 3:04pm
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Dima Ovtcharov - Cheung Yuk http://sports.cntv.cn/20100413/106608.shtml - http://sports.cntv.cn/20100413/106608.shtml Vladimir Samsonov - Jun Mizutani http://sports.cntv.cn/20100414/100039.shtml - http://sports.cntv.cn/20100414/100039.shtml Michael Maze - Wang Liqin http://sports.cntv.cn/20100413/106746.shtml - http://sports.cntv.cn/20100413/106746.shtml ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 3:04pm
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Enjoy! Hopefully someone will rip those and post videos on MU. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/13/2010 at 3:04pm
Schlager has perhaps the best backhand loop against backspin of anyone since he plays and practices with Chen Weixing so much. He routinely will just sit there and backhand loop all of his chops. Schlager = tactical genius. It can never be a bad thing to have all the options against a defensive player, or anyone for that matter, harder to get into a groove for a defensive player though when you can't rely on him doing the same thing, forehand push or loop, over and over. |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 5:25am
Look at ma long, a forehand killer stroke is normally enough.
That's probably why boll always has difficulties with Joo.
Ovtcharov has more chance to beat Joo than Boll I think, cause
you need power and a bit perfection against them. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: drago
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 6:38am
Samsonov Mizutani http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37IZP9MH - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37IZP9MH Maze WlQ http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RIMT70TI - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RIMT70TI Ovtcharov Cheung Yuk http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A0XNFFAV - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A0XNFFAV Joo Schlager http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V4DOFFT6 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V4DOFFT6 (First 2 files have mismatched description on MU,but file names are o.k.) |
Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 7:05am
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Thanks for uploading :-) Love the shot that Maze plays at 4-4 in the 3rd, forehand sidespin chop/block. Impressive ------------- Stratus Powerwood FH T05 BH T25 |
Posted By: Ryu_S_M
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 7:41am
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is grip-s available in red ? if no, samsonov don't use it anymore
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Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 7:56am
What do you mean by difficulties? Losing ONE out of many matches between them? Boll has owned Joo for the most part. ------------- who no know go know |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 8:14am
Boll usually wins versus Joo, but he has to work very hard to beat him.
For boll it's not easy to make the point one or two shots after the service, like the chinese players and ryu do. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 8:32am
| MANY MANY THANKS!!! to JimT and drago for the Links and MU |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 9:25am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzUpoG0kO5U - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzUpoG0kO5U
Dimitri Ovtcharov-Cheung Yuk ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 10:08am
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where is loopmeister and the mizutani club?. it seems the catapult mizutani is not working.
what is going on there.
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Posted By: liang1983
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 10:27am
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Posted By: Dagoboz
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 11:54am
Lol at international judges. Did you see Maze's serve at 2-2 10:10. These judges are just score keepers. ------------- Blade: Maze FH: Something BH: Something Else |
Posted By: ppmax
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 12:08pm
Strictly speaking, most of Wang Liqin's serves are illegal. Overall, it's fair game. Please give credit to Maze, instead of giving credit to a conspiracy. |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 12:22pm
You're right. Having trouble does not mean losing but you have to work very hard to win. I think because Boll use more spin and his loops are not as powerful as compared to Ma Long's or WLQ's, still he owned Joo for most part  But I don't think Ovtcharov has a great chance to beat Joo if you say that Boll struggles more.------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 12:27pm
His serves are already illegal by the letter of the law, then he goes at 10-10 in the 5th game and flat out old school fully hides his serve, just serves from under his arm without even pulling it back, hiding the contact, and gets the point directly because of that. What was going through his head was "Oh, I really need a point right now, so I'll cheat." He changed his serve motion because of the situation and blatantly, consciously cheated. That's just a douche move. |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 12:33pm
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Com'on, maze didn't cheat, there's nothing wrong with that service, the ball had the effect like all the other times, wang did see which service it was, and you can see, after he lost the point, he didn't blame maze at all, he did that BH move again. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: ppmax
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 12:42pm
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Jonan, Do you have comments on Wang Liqin's serves? Obviously legal? More legal than Maze's? More legal than the "douche move"? I'm Wang's fan. But I also notice that he hides his serves very well with his body. If the judges don't fault his serves, they should not fault Maze's. To me, Maze hid his with the hand, Wang hid his with the body. Fair game. |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 12:43pm
wtf video were you watching? You watch him cup the ball in his hand hiding it with his thumb, toss it 2 or 3 feet sideways, leave his arm out there until after he hits it and say there was nothing wrong with the service?
Yeah, his serves are illegal too, there's a difference though hiding it in your hand, hiding it when its in the air, and hiding it as you hit it, the other two don't matter worth hardly anything, but hiding it when you make contact actually makes a huge difference in comparison. I watched Maze's other serves, and he would stretch the line by pulling his arm away as he made contact, on this one though he left it there and hid his serve contact and Wang made a bad error on it as a result. |
Posted By: ppmax
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 1:15pm
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Are you sure that Wang didn't hide the ball, from Maze's view point, with his body or arm as he made contact with the ball? I have a hard time freezing a frame to prove conclusively. To me, Maze's "douche move" was fair, considering the competition. Maze made his "douche move" once, whereas Wang hid his serves most of the time. Fair game. To me, Maze's lucky net at 8-8 was the key point. I'm missing the days when hidden serves were allowed. At least, I wouldn't have to argue about crap like this. |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 1:25pm
If you look carefully at 12:46, it shows that the red rubber has a purple sponge which seems to me like Haifu Whale III's sponge perhaps ???  The black one has white sponge, no idea, can be bryce speed or tibhar something I have no idea  ------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk Stiga Boost TC Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW |
Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 1:59pm
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Where is the persson match ? ------------- AVALOX BLUE THUNDER |
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 2:07pm
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Actually, at 15:39, when the camera shows Vladi's racket, the red rubber looks pretty fcked up and though I can't get a clear view, it seems to me that the design of the topsheet looks like Grip-S. Maybe Grip-S design with Haifu Whale III or Grip-S topsheet with Haifu Whale III sponge?
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 2:18pm
Tibhar Genius, supposedly. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 2:24pm
I watched many WLQ serves in slow mo and he's not hiding it with his body. He actually has a pretty clean serve. |
Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 2:54pm
Lets see....2007 World Championships round of 16 - Joo beats Ma Long 4-2. 2009 Harmony China Open....Ma Long barely makes it past Joo 4-3 in the semi's and had to save a couple of match points. My point being, it doesnt really matter how you play if the results end up in a win. Ma Long and Wang Liqin definitely have more powerful loops than Boll but it depends on styles and execution when it comes up to certain matchups. Therefore, Boll has figured out a way to get the ball through Joo for the most part, whether it seems like he is working harder for the point or not. Its not always a forehand killer shot that will win the point against Joo, its a combination of spin, speed and placement, along with consistency. Its either you have the smarts and the skill to do so or you end up on the losing side most of the time. ------------- who no know go know |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 2:59pm
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+1 As a very good example of how power doesn't really matter much in that particular aspect, Samsonov has one of the weakest power loops among the top 10 but he consistently beats Joo and Weixing all the time. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 04/14/2010 at 3:05pm
i don't think it was televised. i watched the show live and CCTV5 cut out just before that match would have started. it was the last match of the day. |
Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 04/15/2010 at 7:38am
| Joo vs Persson right now |
Posted By: liang1983
Date Posted: 04/15/2010 at 8:16am
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where to get live?? ------------- Butterfly Photino Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05 |
Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 04/15/2010 at 8:40am
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Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 04/15/2010 at 8:48am
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Ovtcharov was very disappointing against Yang Zi. He could not find any rhythm at all during the whole match. If he were a little bit more patient and stop trying to counterkill everything, he would be a little bit more consistent. Meanwhile, Persson just gave us a textbook lesson on how to defeat great choppers. ------------- who no know go know |
Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 04/15/2010 at 9:12am
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lol Maze kicks the table and it brings him luck, Mizutani makes mistakes in the next 3 points!
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Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/15/2010 at 9:14am
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Michael kicked the table again... ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 04/15/2010 at 9:23am
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Wow, Right now Jun plays like Ma Long O_o ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: DaniloDividina
Date Posted: 04/15/2010 at 2:15pm
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1st leg matches can also be found under ttprovider's youtube account. www.youtube.com/ttprovider ------------- 
Blade: Ma Lin Extra Offensive FH: Hurricane III BH: Stiga Carbo Sound |