Palatinus - OSP Ultimate ST Review
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Topic: Palatinus - OSP Ultimate ST Review
Posted By: tsanyc
Subject: Palatinus - OSP Ultimate ST Review
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 1:05am
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The OSP Ultimate blade is very well made. My 1st impression when I received the blade, it was a "true beauty!" This 7 ply all wood plays like DHS Hurrican King imo. I put on T05 2.1mm (FH) and Bryce 2.1mm (BH). just knocking around, the ball had a good bounce. The blade weighs about 95g, the same as my 1st Timo Boll ALC ST :)
Then I finally brought it to a local recreation center in my neighborhood, and I played with a few people. And here is my feedback on this OSP Ultimate blade.
The guy I played with was a shakehand looper and with med spins, maybe he was afraid to miss, but after a few light hits, he began to loop/hit harder. That's when I realized that this blade has a wonderful control either blocking the loop shots or counter looping. It is not a slow blade if you ask for my opinion, it is truely an OFF blade with good control.
Then I started to loop a few shots to my opponent, Oh my goodness, he couldn't return any of my med ~ heavy loop shots. So, I thought to myself, perhaps I should be easy with the topspins. And I did, he reacted better.
I also realized that this blade is good for flat hitting. You can really feel the wood part touching the ball when you smash and hit really hard. It's a solid feeling man!
Pushing/hitting with my backhand was totally effortless. I had one hand on my thigh, the other pushing/hitting, I thought I was pro :).
To sum up, this blade does not feel like a Stiga blade. It it more of a DHS PF4+Hurricane King+clipper wood- (minus) the stiffness of some top blades. I am really confident about the quality of Palatius blades. 2 thumbs up!! I do recommend this to players of All+ ~ OFF styles.
Thank you Palatinus,
You rock!
tsanyc  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27730&title=feedback-tsanyc - My Feedback 
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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 3:33am
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Is this blade good for pure looper? how about the dwell time compared to clipper wood? How fast is this blade? 95 gr weight is nice, too bad the heaviest Virtuoso is only 87 gr. I wish the blade has +/- 5 grams from standard weight. ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 4:43pm
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I actually loop a lot, and it works for me. I can't speak for anyone else. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27730&title=feedback-tsanyc - My Feedback
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Posted By: fzolesz
Date Posted: 06/27/2010 at 8:07am
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Hey everyone.Let me post here my test to OSP Ultimate: OSP Ultimate I got the Offensive 7ply
wood from the new OSP (oldtiga by palatinus) blades Size: 158x150 ,91 gr, Forehand: Tenergy 05 2,1 (oil tuned ) Backhand: Roundell 2.1 (rather shabby) First of all i want to describe the main
elements, after a summary and impressions on a match. Chop: Chopping is punctual even with the tuned
tenergy. If i wanted to make heavy chops i had to make
faster strokes with my wrist, beacause it feels
sometimes more bouncy then expected. But after some mistake i could gave
very hard spins. Counter: Counter is not a difficult element and can be
expected for a blade not to take more mistakes. With this ultimate the tenergy feels harder
but even more punctual then i thought, the combo feels little hitter setup, but
still good. You don’ have to be hard this works form itself. Drop,Blocking: Shorter dropps are
not so easy with this but this not designsed for passive game its sure. But blocking a
little bit away about If i push it little
like close to table counterspin but just wrist stroke it was’nt gave back. My partner said : „You
could do that ? Nice” Nor am I thouhgt that it is so easy to make
harder blocks like Maze sometimes Topspin against chopped ball: Beacuse of lower arc
you must pull the arm little bit more vertically but not too uncomfortable way. It gave a lot of
spin with lower arc and slower speed but the ball is going fater down after touching
the table. It was more
unpleasent than i thought. I have to say this is nor my strenght Topspin against block,topspin against topspin: Dinamyc topspins is a
modern hitter loop and feels like your still using fresh glued sriver fx :) I could make very
fast topspins to end of the table…with high amount of spin. Hard and spinny bachand
topspins could be carried out with little wrist moves. I could make backhand
shots as well if wanted. Serve,Receive I could make serves with lot of spins but
chopped serves wasn’t so easy, instead i gave empty serves and after i could
finish te ponits with this weaponJ Receiving is easy if your good with topspins and
flicks short dropps is a little bit hard for me but I am using ow the slower
brother ,Virtouso. Summary: However i lost the
match int he finel set, but my partner said : „you were more agressive, i was surprised „ I used to lost
against him becasue he is playing 4 class higher tournament but I am satisfied
with the two set won and what he said. This is still a
looper blade but stiffer so maybe well suit for modern topspin game. Some forum writers
compared it with clipper. I can say it is better than clipper in all aspects.Not
comperable First of all it has
feeling!!Good feedback in your palm, Much more spin and so punctual. Higher arc, and not
a linearblade…so if you want to be softer,so you can! But if you are harder
this a fast killer weapon. If you are looking
for well balanced offensive blade with superb control this is what you want I am sure you will
stop EJ’ ing ;) ------------- OSP VIRTUOSO AC (L=159 mm)( Aramid/Carbon) FH: Tenergy 80 BH: Tenergy 80 Boosted with Falco long http://ospblades.com/" rel="nofollow - OSP Blades |
Posted By: eecrive
Date Posted: 06/28/2010 at 9:33am
| any other?? waiting for more reviews!! ;) |
Posted By: eecrive
Date Posted: 06/29/2010 at 10:00am
| Ultimat OSP Blade arrived, craftman is fantastic, balance also.. will try tonite. |
Posted By: Peter C
Date Posted: 06/29/2010 at 7:10pm
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eecrive What rubbers do you intend using on the OSP Ultimate? |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 06/30/2010 at 9:47am
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He likes soft rubbers ;) ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: eecrive
Date Posted: 07/01/2010 at 3:33am
| tue... t05 too hard... |
Posted By: Peter C
Date Posted: 07/01/2010 at 7:55pm
| I can imagine J O Silver on backhand and Energy Xtra on the forehand, working well on the Ultimate. |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 4:22am
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I tried it with donic baracuda (I like it 2.0mm because of its similar behaviour to glued european rubbers) and it was a bit too much for me.. It was a bit too sharp, and a bit fast but very clean feeling. With Virtuoso I got about 5% shorter but higher arc and it bites the ball exaclty as I want. ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: eecrive
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 9:55am
| seems i had to take virtuoso too... |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 10:02am
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and an Expert also :) ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: eecrive
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 10:25am
| but i want a 7 layers.. no way! |
Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 09/09/2010 at 1:14pm
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virtuoso where can I order this ------------- AVALOX BLUE THUNDER |
Posted By: fzolesz
Date Posted: 09/09/2010 at 1:55pm
Use my link in my signature or in Pllsystem's signature http://www.ospblades.com - www.ospblades.com ------------- OSP VIRTUOSO AC (L=159 mm)( Aramid/Carbon) FH: Tenergy 80 BH: Tenergy 80 Boosted with Falco long http://ospblades.com/" rel="nofollow - OSP Blades |
chris.b40 wrote:Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 09/09/2010 at 2:02pm
Thank you ------------- AVALOX BLUE THUNDER |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 09/10/2010 at 1:15pm
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Got your order Chris. Thanks ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: louisc
Date Posted: 02/20/2011 at 10:24am
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The OSP Ultimate blade is very well made. My 1st impression when I received the blade, it was a "true beauty!" This 7 ply all wood plays like DHS Hurrican King imo. I put on T05 2.1mm (FH) and Bryce 2.1mm (BH). just knocking around, the ball had a good bounce. The blade weighs about 95g, the same as my 1st Timo Boll ALC ST :)
Then I finally brought it to a local recreation center in my neighborhood, and I played with a few people. And here is my feedback on this OSP Ultimate blade.
The guy I played with was a shakehand looper and with med spins, maybe he was afraid to miss, but after a few light hits, he began to loop/hit harder. That's when I realized that this blade has a wonderful control either blocking the loop shots or counter looping. It is not a slow blade if you ask for my opinion, it is truely an OFF blade with good control.
Then I started to loop a few shots to my opponent, Oh my goodness, he couldn't return any of my med ~ heavy loop shots. So, I thought to myself, perhaps I should be easy with the topspins. And I did, he reacted better.
I also realized that this blade is good for flat hitting. You can really feel the wood part touching the ball when you smash and hit really hard. It's a solid feeling man!
Pushing/hitting with my backhand was totally effortless. I had one hand on my thigh, the other pushing/hitting, I thought I was pro :).
To sum up, this blade does not feel like a Stiga blade. It it more of a DHS PF4+Hurricane King+clipper wood- (minus) the stiffness of some top blades. I am really confident about the quality of Palatius blades. 2 thumbs up!! I do recommend this to players of All+ ~ OFF styles.
Thank you Palatinus,
You rock!
tsanyc Hello.Can you pls compare your ultimate with the ALC in terms of speed, throw - arc, looping, counterlooping, short game, blocking and hitting?Between the two blades which one dou you prefer and for what reasons?Thanks------------- Timo Boll ALC ST FH:Tenergy 05 2.1 Black BH:Tenergy 05 2.1 Red |
Posted By: louisc
Date Posted: 02/20/2011 at 10:27am
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Hello. Can you pls compare the virtuoso+ with the ultimate in terms of speed, throw, looping, and feeling?Which one do you prefer?Thanks
------------- Timo Boll ALC ST FH:Tenergy 05 2.1 Black BH:Tenergy 05 2.1 Red |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 3:22am
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I'll test one soon; I can't wait. My little pinky is telling me that my couple MJ could both retire soon into somebody else's hand (hopefully the same). ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 04/17/2011 at 4:59pm
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fatt I just finished gluing the Ultimate that it was sent to me for testing when I saw your post. I glued an Air Illumina on forehand and a Donic Baracuda on backhand... I will test it in the following days and I will give it also to other players (better and worse) to test it also and I'll write the impressions here. I am also going to write a comparison to the Virtuoso with which I play for nine months now... ------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 04/18/2011 at 2:40am
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Thanks fatt for testing. ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: tomas.gt
Date Posted: 04/18/2011 at 3:13am
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Fatt, you chose good rubbers so you probably could not see it, but overall mizutani blade is superior to ultimate in every department, although I like the feel of ultimate much much more. Ultimate is capable of extremely good powershots, but not on regular basis. I blame the blade itself, because there are blades that can do that regularly. Also, I expected ultimate as 7ply blade - e.g. blade for game style, which is typical for 7ply - power driving blade. The ultimate I got is meant to be played the similar way as traditional 5ply allwood, but it has something additional from 7plies, but not enough to be the real 7ply blade. ------------- Kokutaku Bishu no.1 ST - H3N red , BTfly Spinart 2.1 black |
Posted By: mercuur
Date Posted: 04/18/2011 at 5:55am
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How someone experiences these faster osp blades depends a lot on technicque. For powerlooping with chinese rubbers (as in Thomas signature) most players tend to put more momentum on the blade (between head and handle) by putting pressure on the lower part of the grip on fh side (effectively use a long(er) grip). Others (often using fast katapulting rubbers) hold the blade closer to the bladeface putting pressure more higher on the grip at less distance from the neckarea with less leverage and momentum. They -relatively - use the rubber for spring more and bladeflex less. The higher gripping adds enough stability to the lamina and thus control with -more - springy rubber. Someone who uses the full leverage of the handle (long grip) the soft relatively thick and small abachi layer (the lighter wood in the griphalve) making the griphalves lighter overall is sandwiched between the strong walnutlayer on top of the griphalves and the woodlamina. The stiffer, faster the lamina, the bigger the momentum/impact on these abachi layers will be. Therefor the gain in stability can be less then one would expect from the laminabuild. Straight handle the abachi and walnut stripes are wider and the wallnut runs a bit further onto the blade face then with anatomic, conic and - to a lesser extend - flared. St will be more stable and consistent because of that ; the hard walnutlayer does a better job for stability and the impact on the abachi layer is spread over a bigger surface area (thus less for the material). The Osp site allready says it : These blades are tuned for the new generation rubbers meaning tensors and tenergy not so much for the chinese rubbers. You can,t optimally tune a blade or one single gripdesign for all type of new generation rubbers it,s as simple as that. Palatinus is fully aware of these things as anyone with some (much less) bladebuilding experience and in my opinion should offer special design for chinese type of rubbers and/or be honest and open about these limitations on a public forum that they use to market their blades. |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 04/24/2011 at 6:28am
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Another Ultimate is in Greece, I am - or seem to be - the next in the line. Don't know about your Ultimate.
How was the tourney in Seattle?
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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 05/06/2011 at 3:33pm
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God knows I dont need another blade, but this thing is so beautiful.. (biting nails)
------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 05/06/2011 at 3:51pm
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I am the lucky one who is testing it now and the next one will be Imago. Very good blade...
------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 06/23/2011 at 4:05pm
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I want to thank Ioannis for the Ultimate - got it today from the post office. It is in perfect shape - not even a scratch and the smallest ding. Handle is ST, weight is 95 gr. I attached first a black Mars 2 @ 34 deg. and a red Joola Topspin max. Looked like an OFF- combo with much control. Then I took off the Topspin and replaced it with an old H2 @ 40. So the lion woke up.
Will come back tomorrow with more detailed review.
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Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 06/23/2011 at 9:59pm
I'm glad you received it Imago , I hope you'll enjoy playing with it!------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 06/24/2011 at 1:57am
| What rubbers did you play it with, Ioannis? |
Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 06/24/2011 at 6:11am
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Donic Baracuda on backhand, Air Illumina and Boost TS on forehand. ------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 06/24/2011 at 7:39am
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The Ultimate Lion's Roar Sutra 1. Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed Coach was living at Serdika in Jetana club, Deer Park. There he addressed the brothers in TT thus: "Blessed TT brothers." -- "Venerable Coach," they replied. The Blessed Coach said: 2. "TT brothers, only in Ultimate is there a recluse, only here a second recluse, only here a third recluse, only here a fourth recluse - in the Ultimate Palatunus blade. The doctrines of others blades are devoid of recluses: that is how you should rightly roar your ultimate lion's roar. 3. "It is possible, TT brothers, that wanderers of other sects, like the Butterfly or Stiga sect, might ask: 'But on the strength of what tournament or with the support of what rubbers do the venerable ones make this triumph happen?' Wanderers of other TT sects who ask thus may be answered in this way: 'Friends, four blades (Expert, Virtuoso, Virtuoso +, and Ultimate) have been shipped to us by the Blessed One who knows and sees, accomplished and fully enlightened; on seeing these in our Jetana TT club we say thus: "Only in Ultimate is there a recluse, only here a second recluse, only here a third recluse, only here a fourth recluse. The doctrines of others are devoid of recluses." We have confidence in the Coach, we have confidence in the Grand Master Sharara and his Parishad (board of blessed Directors), we have fulfilled the ITTF Regulations, and our companions in the TT Teaching are dear and agreeable to us whether they are layfolk or those gone thus (tathagata) into the Pro Tours. These are the four things declared to us by the Blessed Coach who knows and sees, accomplished and fully enlightened, on seeing which in ourselves we say as we do.' 4. "It is possible, TT brothers, that wanderers of other TT clubs might say thus: 'Friends, we too have confidence in the Coach, that is, in our locally embodied Teacher; we too have confidence in the Teaching of ITTF, we too have fulfilled the precepts, that is, our blessed ITTF Regulations; our companions in the Teaching are dear and agreeable to us too whether they are layfolk or those gone forth into the Pro Tours. What is the distinction here, friends, what is the variance, what is the difference between you and us?' 5. "Wanderers of other TT clubs who ask thus may be answered in this way: 'How then, friends, is the Ultimate - one or many?' Answering rightly, the wanderers of other TT clubs would answer thus: 'Friends, the Ultimate is one, not many.' -- 'But, friends, is that Ultimate for one affected by boosting or free from boosting?' Answering rightly, the wanderers of other clubs would answer thus: 'Friends, that Ultimate is for one free from boosting, not for one affected by boosting.' -- 'But, friends, is that Ultimate for one affected by LP-hate or free from LP-hate?' Answering rightly, they would answer: 'Friends, that Ultumate is for one free from LP hate, not for one affected by LP hate.' -- 'But, friends, is that Ultimate for one affected by Tenergy delusion or free from Tenergy delusion?' Answering rightly, they would answer: 'Friends, that Ultimate is for one free from Tenergy delusion, not for one affected by Tenergy delusion.' -- 'But, friends, is that Ultimate for one affected by EJ craving or free from EJ craving?' Answering rightly, they would answer: 'Friends, that Ultimate is for one free from EJ craving, not for one affected by EJ craving.'
-- 'But, friends is that Ultimate for one who delights in and enjoys anything but Attack and Loop, or for one who does not delight in and enjoy anything but Attack and Loop?' Answering rightly, they would answer: 'Friends, that Ultimate is for one who does not delight in and enjoy anything but Attack and Loop. That is what the Blessed Coach said. The brothers in TT were satisfied and delighted in the Blessed Coach's words, memorized his words and ordered more Ultimates from the Dharmata Abode, i.e., palatinus-blades.com.
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Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 06/24/2011 at 9:02am
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Imago you are one crazy crazy crazy dude, I like you :D
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Posted By: zzz
Date Posted: 06/25/2011 at 4:49am
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@Imago: What Sutta is it? I can not find it in any nikaya.  ------------- Virtuoso+ :: Mark V :: Mark V |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 06/25/2011 at 6:18am
This is the venerable and most secret aryamahaguhya Atyanta-simhanada-sutra. 
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Posted By: HowToPlayChineseLoop
Date Posted: 12/04/2012 at 11:35am
Oh, I love your comments. Really clearly ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53935" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: 109eh
Date Posted: 10/29/2013 at 11:28pm
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Hello, I am looking for a OSP Ultimate blade (FL, ST or AN). If you have it and if you'd like sell, please PM me! Thanks a lot! ------------- See TT videos on http://www.youtube.com/user/109eh |