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Topic: Your Coach(es) Best Tips
Posted By: yogi_bear
Subject: Your Coach(es) Best Tips
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 11:36am
Here I am compiling our coach(es) best tips.. what we will do is that we need to copy and paste previous tips to make it available for other people to read. please put a hyphen before each tip.

-in order to read your opponent's next move, focus on the racket angle and body movements. this will help you anticipate the next possible moves your opponent might do. getting clues from your opponent will help you decide on what to do next and not get surprised.
-brushing the ball is important as it will give the ball a forward and curved motion. having a curved ball will help make your shots no to go over the table. brushed balls are safer compared to balls which are being hit through the sponge with no brushing strokes.
-the kind of service you will make determines the next thing you must do and not do. e.g. - doing a no spin serve and then when the ball is returned, you will loop it with an open angle

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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 1:48pm
If your ball goes long, don't put less power, add more spin.

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Posted By: BMonkey
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 2:29pm
"Don't go up, go forward."
"Don't stand up when you hit the ball."
"Don't let the ball shoot out of your racket when you hit it, guide it forward and keep it on the racket as long as you can."
"The reason the ball is hitting the bottom (side closest to the ground) of your racket is because you are too high. Get down so you can see the ball!"
"Don't rush. Get there first. Then swing."
"Your timing is so screwed up. You take the ball too far in front. Wait!"


Posted By: Ryu_S_M
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 2:39pm
never try to make hard shot when you are out of postition, use more wrist and play safe

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Posted By: lenwink
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 2:47pm
Table Tennis Training Tips & Sayings

http://www.tabletennisandmore.com/lenisms.htm - http://www.tabletennisandmore.com/lenisms.htm

Aloha,


Posted By: Genesis
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 4:48pm
keep your eyes on the ball, don't anticipate your next shot (except when serving)

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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 5:26pm
Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:


"Don't let the ball shoot out of your racket when you hit it, guide it forward and keep it on the racket as long as you can."
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not the best tip when it comes to close table play.

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Posted By: opinari
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 5:37pm
Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:

"Don't go up, go forward."
"Don't stand up when you hit the ball."
"Don't let the ball shoot out of your racket when you hit it, guide it forward and keep it on the racket as long as you can."
"The reason the ball is hitting the bottom (side closest to the ground) of your racket is because you are too high. Get down so you can see the ball!"
"Don't rush. Get there first. Then swing."
"Your timing is so screwed up. You take the ball too far in front. Wait!"


I'd heard all of these tips too, often repeatedly :D

Most prominently,

1) Move! Finishing a stroke before in position = bad form. (Not only can the opponent attack a weak ball, but you're caught flat-footed)

2) When looping, go forward. If you go up, your center of weight goes backwards.

3) Games are to eleven points, not to ten or nine. Never give up, even during a single point. Always play your very best.


Posted By: BMonkey
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by ohhgourami ohhgourami wrote:

Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:


"Don't let the ball shoot out of your racket when you hit it, guide it forward and keep it on the racket as long as you can."
"

not the best tip when it comes to close table play.
/shrug. You'll have to explain yourself on that one. Keeping the ball on the racket is how I control the ball. I.E. making an active shot and carrying the ball forward rather than "eating the spin" and making a passive shot.


Posted By: ybok
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 5:50pm
Can you explain this one:  
 
33. Play the point, not the situation. (Danny Seemiller)
 
I think I understand the point part, what distinguishes that from the situation?


Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 5:54pm
Originally posted by ybok ybok wrote:

Can you explain this one:

33. Play the point, not the situation. (Danny Seemiller)


I think I understand the point part, what distinguishes that from the situation?


Focus on the single point, not whether you are down or up in games or losing or winning.


Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 6:02pm
- Bend those knees!
- when playing BH topspin use Left arm for balance, dont keep it stuck right next to the body.


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Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 6:07pm
By "play the point, not the situation", he means if you are loseing, do not change your game. Many people when behind get too carefull giving the other an advantage. Stick to your game.
Same if you are way ahead, do not slack off. Seen many comebacks when given a chance.


Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 6:50pm
"Don't let the ball hit the paddle, the paddle should hit the ball."



Posted By: lenwink
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 8:00pm
Exactly as another said, he means to play each point as if that's the entire game; this is what's important, focus on THIS point....not your opponents rating, how many rating points you will win or lose, not the players in the table next to you, not the current score of your game and match. Focus ONLY on this point, the present, not the past or future. I believe I recall Danny telling us that he would "doublethink" or "trick" his mind into believing this was ALWAYS the MOST important point in the match, thus never losing focus. Much wisdom from those "isms"...
Aloha,
Len


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 8:11pm
guys copy and paste please so that we could compile these things


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 8:15pm
-in order to read your opponent's next move, focus on the racket angle and body movements. this will help you anticipate the next possible moves your opponent might do. getting clues from your opponent will help you decide on what to do next and not get surprised.
-brushing the ball is important as it will give the ball a forward and curved motion. having a curved ball will help make your shots no to go over the table. brushed balls are safer compared to balls which are being hit through the sponge with no brushing strokes.
-the kind of service you will make determines the next thing you must do and not do. e.g. - doing a no spin serve and then when the ball is returned, you will loop it with an open angle
-If your ball goes long, don't put less power, add more spin.
-Focus on the single point, not whether you are down or up in games or losing or winning.
-"Don't go up, go forward." "Don't stand up when you hit the ball."
-"Don't let the ball shoot out of your racket when you hit it, guide it forward and keep it on the racket as long as you can."
-"The reason the ball is hitting the bottom (side closest to the ground) of your racket is because you are too high. Get down so you can see the ball!"
-"Don't rush. Get there first. Then swing."
-"Your timing is so screwed up. You take the ball too far in front. Wait!"
-- Bend those knees!
- when playing BH topspin use Left arm for balance, dont keep it stuck right next to the body.
-"Don't let the ball hit the paddle, the paddle should hit the ball."


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Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 9:27pm
Some things I say to players;
1. Two good serves (always think in Tandom) and two good third balls
2. win at least one of their serves
3. Be ready (I coach some boys) and I say either you are ready or unready so its up to you, so remind yourself to be ready either at recieving serves or during the game.
4. Don't underestimate your opposition
5. Don't give up
6. Think about what you are good at (and do it)
7. Warm up
8. If you are winning keep the game going quickly
9. If you are loosing slow it down and get back to basics ie a good serve
 


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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 06/17/2010 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:

Originally posted by ohhgourami ohhgourami wrote:

Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:


"Don't let the ball shoot out of your racket when you hit it, guide it forward and keep it on the racket as long as you can."
"

not the best tip when it comes to close table play.
/shrug. You'll have to explain yourself on that one. Keeping the ball on the racket is how I control the ball. I.E. making an active shot and carrying the ball forward rather than "eating the spin" and making a passive shot.


Not to detract from the thread, but I've had higher level players yell at me for "guiding" the ball.

Maybe there's some misunderstanding here. I certainly agree that you should not be stabbing at the ball or just passively approaching each shot, but keeping the ball on the racket (with chinese rubber at any rate, sounds like control-suicide).

The only players I've seen stroking past the ball had very fast handspeed and very good recovery/return to center (US1900 player looping from mid distance, his stroke would go PAST the ball by a few milliseconds and then the ball would shoot out). is this more what you mean?


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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 06/18/2010 at 1:42am
Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:

Originally posted by ohhgourami ohhgourami wrote:

Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:


"Don't let the ball shoot out of your racket when you hit it, guide it forward and keep it on the racket as long as you can."
"

not the best tip when it comes to close table play.
/shrug. You'll have to explain yourself on that one. Keeping the ball on the racket is how I control the ball. I.E. making an active shot and carrying the ball forward rather than "eating the spin" and making a passive shot.

Have you ever tried looping from 1-2 feet from the table?  Try to do drills, just fh to fh loop fast and try to keep it low.  Notice which balls go long.  I can almost guarantee that all those shots that go long are because you carried the ball for too long.  At this distance from the table, you want to just drive it through with tons of spin, not guide it forward.  If the ball stays in, it won't have any pace or spin.


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Posted By: BMonkey
Date Posted: 06/18/2010 at 2:45am
Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

Not to detract from the thread, but I've had higher level players yell at me for "guiding" the ball.

Maybe there's some misunderstanding here. I certainly agree that you should not be stabbing at the ball or just passively approaching each shot, but keeping the ball on the racket (with chinese rubber at any rate, sounds like control-suicide).

The only players I've seen stroking past the ball had very fast handspeed and very good recovery/return to center (US1900 player looping from mid distance, his stroke would go PAST the ball by a few milliseconds and then the ball would shoot out). is this more what you mean?

Originally posted by ohhgourami ohhgourami wrote:


Have you ever tried looping from 1-2 feet from the table?  Try to do drills, just fh to fh loop fast and try to keep it low.  Notice which balls go long.  I can almost guarantee that all those shots that go long are because you carried the ball for too long.  At this distance from the table, you want to just drive it through with tons of spin, not guide it forward.  If the ball stays in, it won't have any pace or spin.
Yea, I think this is just an internet communication limitation. I don't even know how to exactly articulate it. "Stroke the ball" "Hit the ball rather than ball hit the racket"...however you want to put it. This is all much easier to demonstrate face to face.

As far as your looping example ohhgourami, I can loop just fine 1-2ft off the table, my problem area is past 6 ft Smile Maybe the chinese rubber behaves differently than japanese rubber or I innately finish correctly, but whenever I do get the ball to go "in" to my racket, it always shoots out with a ton more speed and spin (when I am looping).


Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 06/18/2010 at 3:23am
Originally posted by BMonkey BMonkey wrote:

Yea, I think this is just an internet communication limitation. I don't even know how to exactly articulate it. "Stroke the ball" "Hit the ball rather than ball hit the racket"...however you want to put it. This is all much easier to demonstrate face to face.

As far as your looping example ohhgourami, I can loop just fine 1-2ft off the table, my problem area is past 6 ft Smile Maybe the chinese rubber behaves differently than japanese rubber or I innately finish correctly, but whenever I do get the ball to go "in" to my racket, it always shoots out with a ton more speed and spin (when I am looping).

Probably a communication problem.  But Chinese rubbers do behave differently.  I'll probably post up a video on what I'm talking about.


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Posted By: Speedplay
Date Posted: 06/18/2010 at 4:43am
Best advice ever?

-Always be prepared to attack the ball! If you can't attack it, it is easier to change to a defensive mode then it is if you are prepared to defend and get a ball that you can attack.

-Move your feet! Don't reach for the ball, move your feet to get in position instead.

-Play your opponent, not the table!

-When serving, do remind your self that this is the only time when you are actually in total control of the ball, so use it wisely and don't rush the serve!

-Listen to APW, a lot of these advices comes from him

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Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 06/18/2010 at 3:22pm
Thanks Speedy.

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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 06/18/2010 at 3:58pm
i had a coach a long time ago, like 10 yrs. ago, who used to say the following when i was practicing my serves: "move you arm outta the way!!  y'know, one day they're gonna change the rule and you're not gonna be able to hide the serve anymore, and then what are you gonna do??


Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 06/18/2010 at 5:36pm
One I can think of, which may provoke some debate, is;
 
Don't worry if the opponent puts the ball past you, he will, that is what he'd trying to do, your worry about this, can make you make uneccesary  mistakes.


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Posted By: shaolinTT
Date Posted: 06/18/2010 at 7:08pm
I am a R handed CPen.
One common mistake when doing the traditional BH push is putting the R leg in front.  The coach corrected that.  The L (not R) leg should be slightly in front.  When your opponent suddenly hit the ball to your FH, you are not stuck but can take a quick side step and attack with the FH.  Some PH players has a weakness on the FH side because they don't know this little "step".  We won't be exactly like a Ma Lin but it will help a lot!


Posted By: ztec
Date Posted: 06/25/2010 at 1:47pm

My university's former coach, left due to a new job, emphasized that generating ball speed is done by "swinging faster, not harder." By which he meant, instead of tensing up the arm and body for power, which usually slows down your swing, relax your arm and move your arm faster into the ball when you swing. Effectively you're using a fast arm speed instead of pure strength. I don't know if this explanation makes too much sense in words, but in practice it does work.



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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/26/2010 at 2:23am
Can't think of just one thing.  So many.  Here are a few for the ages.

"You have more time than you think you do"  Eric Owens.

"You don't need to be quick to have great timing, sometimes it's better not to be"  Eric Owens.  I dedicate this one to APW46, who has great timing.

"Even at your pitiful level, you ought to be able to fake where you are going on returns of serves and pushes and even on loops occasionally -- freeze your opponent in indecision with a little fake, it's not that hard, you just have to think of doing it and practice it a little"  Eric Owens

"Most people think that trickiness in serves comes from spin or lack of spin and placement, but there is a third thing you can do, mess with cadence and trajectory."  Eric Owens (this one may require some elaboration, but it is an amazingly effective idea once you grasp it).

"A good serve isn't necessarily the spinniest serve.  People straining to get lots of spin on their serves usually have serves that are easy to read.  All it has to be is something other than what it appears to be"  Perry Schwartzberg.

"A return of serve is not like any other shot.  Everything has to be smaller, especially when you are attacking one that gets a bit long.  Even when you are not attacking on your return of serve it doesn't mean you push passively, but the stroke is very very small" Perry Schwartzberg

"You are too big.  Make yourself small"  Huijing Wang  (this one is almost like a zen koan.  This coach does not speak much English.  In the context that she first told it to me I think she wanted me to suck in my gut on return of serve.  Sometimes she says it when she wants me to stay in balance off the table.  At least I think that's what she means.

"Wipe off your rubber, how can you expect to get any spin with that filthy thing?"  Perry Schwartzberg

"If you tend to get mad at yourself, make sure to have exactly one and a half beers before a tournament.  Whisky doesn't work".  Viktor Subonj  (I have never actually tried this one).






Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 06/26/2010 at 2:32am
And now for some stuff that coaches told me that is simply wrong.

"Stop trying to spin with your short pips.  They are meant for flat hitting".

"You need to do more multiball drills"

"Your first instinct should be to take every ball with your forehand"

"Stand farther over to the left side when you serve"


Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 06/26/2010 at 5:27am
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:


"You have more time than you think you do"  Eric Owens.




 This I like very much. Everyone has the information in their sight, most just don't see it because they are ball watching.

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Posted By: lenwink
Date Posted: 06/26/2010 at 1:43pm
As I posted earlier in this thread in my Lenisms, I have always said:
18. You have MORE time than you think; but, you may still not have enough time!
http://www.tabletennisandmore.com/lenisms.htm - http://www.tabletennisandmore.com/lenisms.htm

Aloha,


Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 06/26/2010 at 2:05pm
Originally posted by APW46 APW46 wrote:

Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:


"You have more time than you think you do"  Eric Owens.




 This I like very much. Everyone has the information in their sight, most just don't see it because they are ball watching.

I like this advice as well, but maybe of a different reason.  I think it's so true, bc most of the error on return is due to being too hurry.


Posted By: richrf
Date Posted: 06/27/2010 at 2:32pm
1) You must stay on your toes and move.

2) Hit from the hips.

3) Make spin.

4) The body is relaxed until the moment of contact.  Hold your breadth just before striking.

5) Use your fingers at the moment of contact.

6) The stroke is short, forward, and accelerate through the ball.




Posted By: burakhayran
Date Posted: 06/27/2010 at 5:15pm
keep your eyes on the ball...Wink

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Posted By: takethat
Date Posted: 06/28/2010 at 6:21pm
 Try to get your  racket on the ball, every time, never let it just pass, without an effort  Always play to a location on the table, makes you think and react faster  with more accuracy.Works for me up to today.

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Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 06/28/2010 at 10:49pm
lol one of the coaches in our area keeps telling every one of his students "Put your racket in front of the ball!" Believe it or not, that's actually not so easy to do!


Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 06/28/2010 at 11:27pm
"don't reach you lazy POS!, move your fat ass instead!"

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Posted By: zheyi
Date Posted: 06/29/2010 at 12:19am
Originally posted by lenwink lenwink wrote:

As I posted earlier in this thread in my Lenisms, I have always said:
18. You have MORE time than you think; but, you may still not have enough time!
http://www.tabletennisandmore.com/lenisms.htm - http://www.tabletennisandmore.com/lenisms.htm

Aloha,
 
Haha! Do we have the same coach? :p Mine is a chinese coach when i was a kid.
Maybe he sees alot chinese kongfu movie/show, he emphasized master the basic,
and forget them in the competition. ----> not style win have style (in chinese) LOL


Posted By: Speedplay
Date Posted: 06/29/2010 at 4:58pm
Having shared the tips I got from APW, I thought I could share my own best tip as well, which is:

-Play with in your level!

To many amateurs look at the pro's and tries to copy their game, with out their amount of practice. The result is that they give away a lot of cheap points by missing their own shots. Sure, it is spectacular when the shot goes on, but a ball pushed in the net is as valuable as a ball blasted past your opponent.

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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 06/29/2010 at 6:28pm
don't have my coach here any more.... but he would say-
- run 10 miles every day and shed those pounds.

but i really found the "most important skill in table tennis" by pingskills... really one of the things that changed by game and confidence. it was 
- "learn to hit the ball perpendicular to the blade" (not that you have to do it all the time)


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Posted By: Marky
Date Posted: 06/29/2010 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by Speedplay Speedplay wrote:

Having shared the tips I got from APW, I thought I could share my own best tip as well, which is:

-Play with in your level!

To many amateurs look at the pro's and tries to copy their game, with out their amount of practice. The result is that they give away a lot of cheap points by missing their own shots. Sure, it is spectacular when the shot goes on, but a ball pushed in the net is as valuable as a ball blasted past your opponent.
 
Can't agree more!!Thumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs Up


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Posted By: Topspinify
Date Posted: 09/01/2010 at 3:00pm
Try to put 100% effort in every shot. Service return or defensive shots should not be made to keep the ball in play, but for winning the point. Always put max power, speed on your shots. Think with your feets. Wait for the ball. Do not make a cut (return) on the top of the bouce, make it much earlier. Only practise if you feel very very good both psy and ment.


Posted By: forthefun
Date Posted: 09/01/2010 at 3:57pm
He would often say that your opponents are your best coaches as they always bring out your weakest points.

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Posted By: glanden.zheng
Date Posted: 09/01/2010 at 9:07pm
"Spin, and keep the ball in play. Everyone is scared of a forehand attack, even spin based. If you keep your ball in, they wouldn't be able to block the 3rd one even if you only use medium power. KEEP THE BALL IN!!!"

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Posted By: Bennybenny
Date Posted: 09/02/2010 at 6:58pm
"Attack! But play with control. Move your feet! Don't be passive. Note your timing. Slow down!"

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Posted By: davidzou
Date Posted: 09/02/2010 at 7:20pm
If my coach was a punk, he'd say something like
-Get out there and RAPE THOSE BIT**ES
-USE THOSE HIPS OH YEAHHHH
-FASTER FASTER


Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 09/03/2010 at 2:12am
Best advice?

"Don't have sex the night before tournament!!!!"   Thumbs Up


Posted By: glanden.zheng
Date Posted: 09/03/2010 at 6:42pm
LOLOLOLOL.....;)

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Posted By: davidzou
Date Posted: 09/03/2010 at 7:39pm
did your coach just laugh at you before the start of the match?

"HAHAHAHA, you're fu**ed


Posted By: Shadows
Date Posted: 11/30/2010 at 2:32pm
1. Get fit (situps,pushups,squats - be able to do a very competent amount), table tennis IS a sport :)
2. Relax - connect with your inner zen!
3. do NOT think with your arm - well at least that's the most problematic for those who do not receive proper coaching
4. Never give up, never sandbag, and ALWAYS have fun... that's why we play this :) - Lol, I don't even follow this one that well, gg.


Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 11/30/2010 at 3:22pm
1.  Watch the ball!
2.  Move and then hit.

The funniest thing he ever told me (I don't remember the exact words):
I was asking how he gets so much spin on his serves and how I could do that.  He said it's timing and all in the wrist, you need to jerk off more. 


Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 11/30/2010 at 10:45pm
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

"If you tend to get mad at yourself, make sure to have exactly one and a half beers before a tournament.  Whisky doesn't work".  Viktor Subonj  (I have never actually tried this one).
 

My wife says my next interview I go on I should take a couple shots of vodka before I go in. I don't see why whisky wouldn't work though...I don't drink beer though, too inefficient.


Posted By: karabijntje
Date Posted: 12/01/2010 at 8:22pm
"Slow shots, fast legs" Wink


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Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 12/26/2010 at 3:42am
Originally posted by karabijntje karabijntje wrote:

"Slow shots, fast legs" Wink
 Nice.Wink

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Posted By: DDreamer
Date Posted: 12/26/2010 at 5:44am
"In Korea we never miss easy ball" - said by Mr Park (visiting South Korean national coach of some years ago) to a local player when the player fluffed a simple put-away.  


Posted By: pinger123
Date Posted: 12/26/2010 at 7:23am
Table Tennis isn't a sport. It's an education.


Posted By: Dafydd393
Date Posted: 12/26/2010 at 10:45am

Golden rule of any sport - enjoy yourself and keep your sportsmanship



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Posted By: cntcasey
Date Posted: 12/26/2010 at 11:13am
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Posted By: garwor
Date Posted: 12/27/2010 at 4:08am
1. Using pushing play style, you can beat lot of good players.
2. Me: Coach, can you teach me service returns, I'm very bad with this? C: It's easy, just topspin everything.


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Posted By: Tinykin_2
Date Posted: 12/27/2010 at 5:44am
"Your strength to his weakness"

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Posted By: bozbrisvegas
Date Posted: 12/28/2010 at 5:34am
keep your elbow down

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Posted By: VictorK
Date Posted: 12/28/2010 at 9:16am
 - TT is a game of feet and head ...


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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 12/28/2010 at 12:32pm
Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

 - TT is a game of feet and head ...
Which one is first precisely Wink ? LOL


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Posted By: VictorK
Date Posted: 12/29/2010 at 11:08am
Originally posted by Pioneer Pioneer wrote:

Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

 - TT is a game of feet and head ...
Which one is first precisely Wink ? LOL


You should be able to figure it out yourself  :o)




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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 12/29/2010 at 1:59pm
Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

Originally posted by Pioneer Pioneer wrote:

Originally posted by VictorK VictorK wrote:

 - TT is a game of feet and head ...
Which one is first precisely Wink ? LOL


You should be able to figure it out yourself  :o)


Head first ? Wink


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Posted By: pnachtwey
Date Posted: 12/29/2010 at 4:33pm
Keep your eye on the ball.
I have a habit of taking my eye off the ball at the last moment to watch the oppoent is doing.  Sometimes I swing and miss when the ball has a lot of spin and changes trajectory.  However, often I can hit the ball in the opposite direction from which the paddle or the opponent is moving.  Some how I need to be able to do both.

"Your strength to his weakness" sounds like something I would say.   The level of our play is basically determined by our weakest link.   Most opponents can find that weak spot.



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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 12/29/2010 at 6:50pm
Originally posted by pnachtwey pnachtwey wrote:

Keep your eye on the ball.
I have a habit of taking my eye off the ball at the last moment to watch the oppoent is doing.  Sometimes I swing and miss when the ball has a lot of spin and changes trajectory.  However, often I can hit the ball in the opposite direction from which the paddle or the opponent is moving.  Some how I need to be able to do both.

I thought that was happening just for me ... Beer


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Posted By: sharingan0619
Date Posted: 03/26/2011 at 11:22am
"Don't think, Feel."


Posted By: qynthnghm
Date Posted: 03/28/2011 at 2:43am
"Hit the showers."


Posted By: jkillashark
Date Posted: 03/28/2011 at 6:21pm
"Ping pong is played with your arms and hands. Table tennis is played with your legs and waist."

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Posted By: Elliok
Date Posted: 10/12/2011 at 10:34am
"Variation is key"

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Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 10/12/2011 at 11:14am
when you're playing away from the table looping but your timing is off and you're missing a lot...go back up closer to the table to loop/hit and get your timing/consistency back.  Then slowly start backing away from the table if you prefer to play mid distance.  This has always helped me out.

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Keep coming so close to breaking 2200!


Posted By: artakwol
Date Posted: 10/13/2011 at 12:30pm
TT is a wrist game. I will add that footwork is also very important.


Posted By: sa01
Date Posted: 10/13/2011 at 3:27pm
"you are no good, quit this game son"


Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 10/14/2011 at 11:14am
my daughter was having a hard time looping underspin and was struggling at the US Open last year...so when Lilly Yip watched her play she suggested my daughter just serve it fast topspin to help her get in the rallies as she was good in rallies.  As a result she started playing much better.

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Joola Rhyzer 48 max - FH
Keep coming so close to breaking 2200!


Posted By: amateur101
Date Posted: 10/14/2011 at 2:02pm
Stellan Bengtsson - coaching on using short pips:

"I want to hear the smack of the ball on the blade".


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Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 10/14/2011 at 2:12pm
on your bh or fh stroke...a former national level coach/player once told me "if you don't hear your stroke cutting through the wind then you're not getting enough of a snap".  I use this one a lot when helping players with their bh stroke.

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Joola Dynaryz ACC max - BH
Joola Rhyzer 48 max - FH
Keep coming so close to breaking 2200!


Posted By: GBtabletennis
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 11:20am
"Movement equals to timing and placement."




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Posted By: Ashes
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 12:27pm
"Don't watch your shot like a spectator, get back in position right away."



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Posted By: yo2man
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 1:27pm
Larry Hodges 171 Tips! If u need something just use ctrl + F and you can basically find any tips!  http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/node/55 - http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/node/55


Posted By: Vihito
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 2:04pm
" There is no easy ball "


Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 10/17/2011 at 4:51pm
to me.... Ermm ... it's always

"stick to an equipment" LOL


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Posted By: dabookerman
Date Posted: 11/02/2011 at 10:19pm
"You have more time than you think you do".

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Posted By: Nori
Date Posted: 11/02/2011 at 10:32pm
simplify


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/02/2011 at 10:44pm
best tips:
1)watch the ball
2)bounce with the ball
3)get in position (move!)
4)be like a dancer (fluid)
5)don't care about winning or losing: I am struggling with that one even though I am getting better at it and win more games driven by the idea; the problem is it depends on a state of mind that is hardly controllable. It happens as the fruit of a day long discipline in and out of our game: if we play the game right and try to give the best of ourselves, there is no problem losing against a better player. We can even argue there is more material to learn from a loss and that a win only poses new (as opposed to postponing the same) problems to solve.



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Posted By: Rainer87
Date Posted: 11/03/2011 at 3:12am
When playing agaist long pips chopper (he chops with LP from BH) then try to loop and hit through the ball. Try to imagine that there are 3 balls in line, middle one is real and 1st and 3rd are imaginary, alwas try to hit the 1st ball.


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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 11/03/2011 at 8:52am
Originally posted by dabookerman dabookerman wrote:

"You have more time than you think you do".


Eric Owens?  It's what he used to tell me all the time.


Posted By: dabookerman
Date Posted: 11/03/2011 at 9:39am
Actually I have heard that both from Brian Pace and from a local coach.  

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Posted By: Chopper88
Date Posted: 11/03/2011 at 12:16pm
Go forward step Ito it


Posted By: lenwink
Date Posted: 11/03/2011 at 1:39pm
Actually, I have always had it in my original list of "Lenisms"  http://www.tabletennisandmore.com/lenisms.htm - http://www.tabletennisandmore.com/lenisms.htm  (#18)
But I always added to it,  You have MORE time than you think; but, you may still not have enough time! Smile

Aloha,
Len



Posted By: Cho!
Date Posted: 12/05/2011 at 11:09am
"Do what I tell you to do. Not what I do." also "Be one with the ball".

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Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 12/05/2011 at 11:19am
Stop trying to analyze every shot - just play.


Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 12/05/2011 at 1:59pm
"keep the ball on the table"

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Posted By: wturber
Date Posted: 12/05/2011 at 6:39pm
"You really suck.  Maybe you should try hardbat."   :^)

Just joking Len.  :-)




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Posted By: lenwink
Date Posted: 12/05/2011 at 6:47pm
LOL...Don't recall saying it in those exact words......
Aloha!


Posted By: wturber
Date Posted: 12/05/2011 at 6:58pm
"Chop and hop" - when chopping, of course.  A nice little rhyme to remind you to get your feet reset right away during the follow through of your chop.



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Posted By: dabookerman
Date Posted: 12/05/2011 at 11:45pm
Since I get some coaching from Brian Pace whenever we bring him up for a long weekend, I'm guessing that Brian will also say...

"Those #$!^[email protected] Chinese National Team players are SCARY good".  Ouch 


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Posted By: Sofaires
Date Posted: 01/12/2012 at 2:50pm
i consider my self a begginer although i do know the use of wrist and spin shots but since all i have learned i learn from watching not actual coaching this mega thread is a gold mine for me, From the bottom of my heart thanks to all of you, great great tips i will take my time to read them all thanks again!!

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Posted By: power7
Date Posted: 02/03/2012 at 10:57am
My favorite quote whenever players were caught out of position was:

"As long as you can touch the ball, you should be able to get it in"

He was kind of evil during multi-ball and table sprint training.



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