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Posted By: BH-Man
Subject: Nexy Amazon Reviews
Date Posted: 05/12/2012 at 12:33pm
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I will link reviews for the AMAZON here in the SECOND post of this thread for all members who review the AMAZON and post their reviews
Blade: Nexy Amazon
Handle: ST
Weight: 83 grams
First look: Pretty
 Speed: OFF Minus
Feel: Soft and this thing vibrates. Feels kinda like a W-6 or detuned Stiga OFF classic, but this plays like none of them, has its own character
How Tested: FH Tibhar Aurus and BH Globe 999 over Quattro 42 degree 2.2 After getting the AMAZON Thursday at Nexy HQ, I went promptly to ACE Bucheon club and played a lot of players, many near my level. I also played the coach, who had to spot me 6 points. SIX points! That dude was good, played a Joo Se Hyuk style and prolly was 2500+ easy. The owner of that club is also 2500 est, a natl div 1 athlete.
First Impressions: Lightish blade with my Chinese rubber on one side feels slightly head heavy. Put some Nexy purchased TSP grip tape on it and it balanced it nicely. Thing vibrates. I am so used to feel of Timo Boll Spirit and next to no vibration, or at least less at a different frequency. Still, the shots landed. AMAZON obviously does not have the top end power of a TBS, but my finishing shots still went by my opponents. Serves went in with same spin and my follow up attacks landed with good spin and less pace than TBS. This blade forces you to setup your attack, open with spin, rally a bit and finish. I always end up with a better game later when I use a soft, slower Nexy blade for a month of testing, then go back to TBS, always. Was like this with Lissom, was like this with Spear, and was like this with Spartacus.
I played again today at my club. Played vs a gent who was a tough cookie. He could fish about anything, until you blasted it right at him. Had to do a lot of opening and spining the ball up to get a chance to try to put one away, but he was real good at retrieving them. Had to do a lot of BH flicks and loops of halflong serves. Had to block at the table and counter. Thing that stands out is that this blade will spin the ball and receive well those slow halflong serves that a faster blade requies you to slow down your swing.
AMAZON is not for me as the marketing blurb goes. It shaped up to be a blade that let you control the spin and rally away... eventually come out on top.
Who is this blade for: Attacking inverted players who want a spinny blade that is not a rocket. Modern defenders might like the touch, the ability to put on the brakes, and the spin on attacking. Allround players will love this thing.
Level of reviewer: I play Ujeongbu city div 2 which players range from 1900-2100 est USATT.
Playing style of reviewer: All-out attacker with some flexibility and sometimes go into a passive allround shell (like a Schildkrot Turtle!) at times. I like to play a 2 winged attacking game using a serve to setup a power finish, or a heavy topspin shot to setup a power finish. I block close to the table and counter further away from table. I like to use the BH to receive serves over 70 of the table with a BH flick or I loop if I see it long. On serve, I am aggressive attacking. On serve recieve, I am aggressive, but if I cannot read the serve, I push to an inconvenient location and look to block the opener wide angle and rally it out. When facing a ball to my extreme BH away from table, I will chop.
Hope to see a lot of reviews coming.
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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/12/2012 at 12:34pm
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I will link reviews to the AMAZON below. Thanks for making a review.
arg0's Review
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50153&PN=1#620669 - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50153&PN=1#620669
elpasott 1st Notes
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50153&PN=1#623730 - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50153&PN=1#623730
128YinYang's Review
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50153&KW=amazon+apologies&PID=624017&title=official-amazon-review-thread#624017 - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50153&KW=amazon+apologies&PID=624017&title=official-amazon-review-thread#624017
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 05/12/2012 at 4:10pm
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Thanks for the review. That really sounds like a blade that suits my style. Too bad mine has been blocked at the customs for three days. Hope they'll let it through on Monday. BH-Man, how would you compare Amazon and Lissom? ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/12/2012 at 10:22pm
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Lissom has less speed and more control on topspins, although AMAZON is almost as controlable as it gets for FH and BH topspins.
AMAZON is slightly lighter.
Lissom has a little more dwell.
Amazon has a little more rebound.
Lissom looks plain jane and AMAZON has graphics.
Playing Lisson for a month or so daily really helped me stop going for 3rd ball powerloop kills, because it is hard to powerloop anything thorugh a good div 1 player using Lissom. Lissom forced me to focus on spin and placement before getting a ball to go hog-wild. That helped my game go up a lot as I either gained points or lost them right there. AMAZON shapes up to be somewhat like this for my game, although I no longer go for powerloop kils as first automatic reaction on 3rd ball, unless the opponennt left one side wide open, which usually doesn't happen often with the div 1 crowd. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: xander7803
Date Posted: 05/12/2012 at 10:34pm
| so which of the Nexy blades could compare to Korbel? |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 05/13/2012 at 3:01am
That's a bit OT here (unless the answer is Amazon, lol). Anyway, if you mean the original Korbel, Nexy Spear could be close, although I haven't played either. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
xander7803 wrote:Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/13/2012 at 8:55am
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Korbel is rated by BTY as OFF and I would rate SPEAR as OFF Minus or very low OFF range. I have never hit with a Korbel, so I wouldn't be able to make a direct comparison. This would be a good question for NEXY to answer. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/13/2012 at 8:59am
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Played again at my club today and played some matches with AMAZON. Drank a few cups of OB Golden Lager and hit the table vs a player who likes to fish with sidespin. Had the same results and generally the same observations. Against this player, i really miss the finishing power of TBS as this opponent could retrieve a lot of my shots with AMAZON that he did not with TBS. This could be a positive as it will force me to find new ways to evolve my game and tactics or fail. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/15/2012 at 12:14pm
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Had another session with AMAZON today and observe generally the same things. Speed is obviously lower than TBS and after using TBS for a few years, you get used to that speed class and feel. AMAZON is in its own category for speed and intent of use. AMAZON would easily serve as a blade the pundits recommend for use. It is easy to control, not overly fast, vibrates, gives feedback, feels very wooden, is light, and can accomodate popular rubbers. I am intersted what allround players, continuous loopers, adn modern defensive players think of this blade. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 05/15/2012 at 2:02pm
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I'm waiting on my order from Nexy (it shipped a couple days ago), and when I get my Amazon to test, I'll post a review on here. I'd definitely curious to see how it suits me, since Nexy says it's a very "different" type of blade, and my game is mostly loops and loop-drives.
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 05/17/2012 at 5:46pm
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I had my first two training sessions with Amazon and I was positively impressed. Here is a first review. I'll update it as soon as I have more playing opportunities. Appearance: I like blades that have natural colours, so Amazon is my type of blade. I also happen to prefer white ash outer plies: two of my favourite blades ever are Nexy Lissom and Nittaku Violin. In conclusion, I know I'm biased, but Amazon looks great. Craftmanship is very good, as always with Nexy blades. All layers are uniformly thick and the lens is inserted smoothly in the handle. This is something you'd expect, at this price point, but I've found out it's not always the case with other manufacturers. Handle: The ST handle is of the traditional squarish type, handle dimesions are about 22x28mm (similar to Lissom, which is however a bit flatter: 21.5x28.5mm). I happen to prefer squarish straight handles to rounded ones, so again Amazon is my type of blade. When I reviewed Calix, I wrote about Calix having sharper edges on the ST handle than Lissom (and Amazon), and that the flat top and bottom surfaces of the handle made me feel like I was holding a precision instrument. This is also due to Calix having a very smooth handle, that feels more like metal or a hi-tech synthetic material than wood. The handle of Amazon is rougher, and it definitely feels more natural in my hand. I don't know what kind of wood it is made of, but it has a light colour. I suppose that I should better varnish it, or it will easily get stained. Anatomy: Nexy Amazon ST, 79g on my scale, 80g on Nexy's. Construction: 7 ply: 5 wood + 2 carbon. white ash - burned ayous - carbon - Nexy's secret core wood (TM) - carbon - burned ayous - white ash On my Amazon, resonance frequency at the ball bounce test is 1340 Hz, which is higher than my Lissoms (1180Hz, 1265Hz) and about in the same range as Nexy Calix, Nexy Color, OSP Virtuoso, and Nittaku Acoustic and Tenor, which is pretty interesting for me (if you wonder how I measured the frequency, it's actually http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38419 - very easy ). Test setup: ditto Nexy Amazon FH: XIOM Vega pro 2.0 BH: Nittaku Hi Super Drive 1.8 Speed: The blade's speed is a tad faster than Lissom with the same setup, I'd rate it as ALL+/OFF-, while Lissom is definitively ALL+. Calix is a bit faster, in the upper range of OFF-/lower range of OFF. Feel: The blade feels stiffer than Lissom and Calix, and does not vibrate that much. Remember that Lissom and Calix vibrate very strongly, although differently, so this is not to say that Amazon does not vibrate: it just does less. Probably also because it's thicker. The carbon layers are "buried" below thick ayous layers, which act rather effectively as dampers, so the feel is rather soft, even with the outer plies being ash, which is hard. However, the ash layers are thin, so the ayous feel plays a big role here. Some carbon "ping" sound is still present, if you hit hard enough, but the vibrations transmitted to the hand are less persistent than Lissom's and not so sharp as Calix's. Behaviour: Depending on how you hit the ball, the blade acts sharp, i.e. with little dwell time (well, still plenty of dwell compared to OFF/OFF+ blades, but less than Lissom). This happens especially with brush shots (sharp pushes, brush loops), I suppose due to the harder white ash plies. If you just brush, it's the outer layer that is primarily engaged. Once you start hitting the ball more fully (hit rather than brush, I think this is what Nexy calls a "bang impact"), the blade shows different properties, i.e. power absorption (ayous layer) and high elasticity (carbon layer). The two factors result in a rather contrasting behaviour: depending on how hard you hit, the carbon layers will more or less cancel out the effect of the ayous layers, and eventually the speed of a return will be different when the relative speed of ball and racket is slow or fast. There is some sort of non-linearity here, which is however different from the non-linearity of Calix, because Calix's non-linearity results from bending of the blade, while non-linearity of Amazon is the result of local compression. Preliminary conclusion: I liked the feel of Amazon. It's easy to push and play top spin. Throw is neutral, very close to Lissom. Soft blocks are easy, harder blocks are a bit less predictable. I suppose it's more suitable for close to the table play. I didn't try smashing, chopping, or looping away from the table. All in all, I felt that for my playing style Amazon is more predictable than Calix. It has to be noted, however, that its top speed is also lower. In the next training, I'll try to compare Amazon and Lissom, my main blade. About myself: Basement tt player as a kid, up to university. After a long break, I have now been playing in a club for about 3 years. I'm a blades EJ, but my main blade in tournament play is Nexy Lissom: I've been playing with it for over 1 year now, with Xiom Vega Pro on FH and Nittaku Hi Super Drive on BH. I play a controlled offensive game with greater value on spin and ball placement than on mere speed. If I can't finish my opponent on 3rd ball, I settle for longer rallies. As you may have guessed from my rubbers, my FH is more aggressive than my BH. I play in a local league, so I don't know my rating. Sooner or later I'll post a video of myself, so that maybe someone can try to rate me on the US scale. EDIT: ====================== part 2 of my review ========================== I had a few more training sessions with Amazon this week-end, and they basically confirmed my initial impressions. I couldn't compare it to Lissom directly (fogot it in the office), but the two blades are similar in many respects. Maybe because their construction is somewhat similar: Lissom: White Ash - Ayous - Secret core wood x 3 - Ayous - White Ash Amazon: White Ash - Burned Ayous - Carbon - Secret core wood - Carbon - Burned Ayous - White Ash In any case, the throw is pretty much the same and hardly required any adjustment. Amazon's throw is maybe a bit higher. Lissom vibrates more and has a lower top speed. Serve: it's easy to serve short and spinny. Actually, even coming from Lissom, some adaptation in necessary: sometimes the ball came even shorter than expected, and landed into the net :-( Push: it's easy to keep the ball spinny and low, as easy as with Lissom. Chop: rather effective. Amazon may be suitable for defenders. I have no clue as to how it would play with pips, though. Loop: sufficient dwell time to generate spinny loops, but you really have to "make bang impact" and engage the carbon it you want them to be fast. Block: Amazon is a dream for playing soft blocks and drop shots, as the thick ayous layers effectively dampens incoming speed. On hard blocks the carbon layer comes into play, so they're not as bad as I initally thought. However if you like to block hard and sharp, you may want to look elsewhere, as Amazon lacks the precision and directness of stiff blades: even with harder rubbers on the blade, it feels as if you were blocking with soft rubbers. Smash: This is an OFF- blade, not a blade for hitting through concrete walls. See comments about hard blocking above. I move fast (too fast actually, as this is often the cause of my mistakes) and with big movements, so OFF- blades are plenty fast for me. Flip: in the short game, Amazon shines. Due to the low weight and nice balance, it's easy to flip with. Conclusion 2: If you're looking for a blade that excels in the short game, Amazon may be the blade for you. The Ayous layers absorb quite some energy of the incoming ball. If you hit harder, the carbon layers will come into play and give you a ball which is faster that one would have expected. The price for that is some non-linearity at intermedates speeds that takes a little to get used to. Amazon deserves some more testing and is replacing Calix as my 2nd blade. If you're interested in Calix, watch out as I will have one for sale, soon. Price: finally there's always the question of price. Is Amazon worth $120? I don't know. We're living in a free market and there blades out there at all price levels. If Nexy is pricing Amazon at $120, that means he's confident that he'll sell some. Craftsmanship and quality of materials are very high, as said, but this is also the case for blades from other brands that cost considerably less. In any case, if you want a white ash outer blade, the choice is not big anyway: Nexy Lissom is priced $20 lower but has no carbon; Nittaku Violin has top notch quality and costs considerably more; I've never seen Yinhe / Galaxy E-4, but it's price is very high for being a Yinhe blade: megaspin sells it at $98, which is 3x the cost of E-1 and E-3. So this may also mean that white ash blades are expensive to produce. === Edit (May 2013) Had some more playing time with Amazon, today, and could also briefly compare it to Spartacus. Contrary to my previous impressions, I was rather impressed by the blocking ability of Amazon: I could return hard topspins with both soft and hard blocks with laser precision. Looping ability did not impress me today, though, but my movements are probably too wide (see below). Speed and feel of the two blades are somewhat similar, although the bounce of Spartacus is higher than Amazon. They both have what I've started to call the slow-carbon-blade feel, which bothers me since I first tried Yinhe K-3, especially when playing far from the table, and I have realised I can't get used to. IMO, Amazon and Spartacus are most suited for controlled and aggressive off-the-bounce play, close to the table, with short, quick movements. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/17/2012 at 8:13pm
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Link added to 2nd post of the thread.
Good looking review.
Your comments echo a lot of what I saw.
Although I am not a fan of such slowish blades, every time I use a slower Nexy blade for a month or more, then go back to TBS, my game has always improved. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 1:42am
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arg0, just noticed you got a 79 gram version. Wow, that is LIGHT, Nexy knows my tendencies for liking heavy and issued me a 83 gram AMAZON. Still, even 83 grams is excessive light for me. Some like low 80s weight, so more power to them. I add egde tape and grip to to fatten it up a bit, but it is still one light blade. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 2:40am
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BH-Man, indeed, Amazon is a light blade. Good for close to the table play, where inertia is a bigger problem. Given the weight range on nexy.com for Amazon ST (74-84g), I asked for a 80g Amazon, in order to get an average weight for the review. According to my wishes, Nexy sent me a 80g Amazon. But as with previous blades, my scale weights 1g less than Nexy's, so I reported 79g. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 2:06am
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Obvious to tell from my posting history that I am certainly NOT a fan of light blades. What is light to me (anything lighter than 88 grams) is heavy to many. A number of people consider 80 grams to be a middle of the road weight. I do not consider a blade heavy until it is around 98 grams, even then, if the balance is good, it doesn't feel very heavy. I am odd in that respect. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 10:34am
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Quick advice for Amazon testers: do seal the handle, otherwise it'll quickly get sweat stains. I already have to clean mine, after only 5h of play... ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/21/2012 at 11:27am
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I like grip tape. Just me. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 2:11am
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I added part 2 of my review in the post above.
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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 5:51am
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I don't want to sound down on AMAZON. I tis jsut a different class of blade for an allround OFF control player, or possibly a modern defender. Even if the Softer feeling slower Nexy blades I have tried out over the months are not like the TBS, my game always improves as the blade forces you to focus on fundemental shot making and tactics.
I see many of the same stuff, yet this blade is right in the territory of what pundit coaches recommend to beginning, intermediate, and even some advanced players. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 5:52am
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Bogeyhunter, are you reading this thread? You might be next in line to test this blade that I can ship you. Just throw me a bone from your boneyard to tryout. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 5:57am
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One of our selected members for AMAZON testing has for sudden reasons became NOT able to receive and test AMAZON.
There were several members close to the guess, like YBFLASH or DBAILEY, maybe another member if one of these two does not step forward...
Please post here YB or DB to get your shot at AMAZON or I have to move it to another memebr soon.
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Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 05/23/2012 at 7:49am
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Just received the Amazon! Must say a pretty looking blade and really, really light! I will test the blade in the next couple of days and post a nice review. Below you can find some pictures:           ------------- Butterfly Harimoto sZLC Butterfly Tenergy 05 Xiom Vega Japan http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35143&PID=432629#432629" rel="nofollow - MyFeedbackSection |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/23/2012 at 11:14am
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Good pics VD, if you can play the TT game and review as well as your pics, then you are one good motor scooter indeed.
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 05/27/2012 at 2:04am
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This thread has been dormant for a while. Testers are welcome to post their first impressions, while they're preparing their full review. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: elpasott
Date Posted: 05/27/2012 at 10:41am
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Here is my brief review of the Amazon: Construction: I like the feel on the handle just perfect to my hand considering im using the flare version, I havent tried the straight though. Appearance: Very simple design, not to much colors on the handle, which is the same with my old gergely. Touch: Although I have used this blade mainly for matches, I havent used this for practice, there still a little bit of vibration, also the cracking sound at first I thought it was the rubbers, I think it has to do with the blade composition. Blocks:This blade is good on close to the table, close to the table is good but if youre away from the table the ball is kinda move slower so its easily get crushed. You need to have good backhand rubber for this blade. Forehand Drive:This blade is not the same category as TBS, Schlaeger or one the few offensive blades. I agree with arg0 this blade is cosidered offensive minus/allaround plus. Im used to heavy fast blade like the Schlaeger, so if finished a forehand drive theres no other way it can be block, with this blade, you have to be ready coz it sometimes going to get block. Thats it folks, thats my initial review on this blade, hopefully Il do some more testing on my way back to el paso. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/27/2012 at 11:19am
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BTW elpasott and I finished a mamoth Bicycle trip to a Seoul and to a few clubs. We are wore out from carrying bikes up and down dozens of flights of stairs changing train lines. I also had a crash & burn fun. We both got our Amazon around teh same time. I put on the rubbers on his FL version he tried it with and those were pretty close to my first impressions. A new sheet of H3 on BH wing and the Amazon certainly made for a cracking like explosion at impact. I thought it was the rubber as some China rubbers like Black Power sound like you are impacting the side of a wood fence with a brick. I think it was bot the rubber and the frequency vibration. I put 999 on quattro on the ST version and that crack went away. he put on a different BH rubber and it was better.
elpasott, like myself, favors rediculous heavy blades that are very stiff and have little vibration, so naturally the Amazon is not constructed like this. Yes, with this blade, you have to be ready to continue the attack, because you are not likely to hit through anyone on your first attack, unless you are very deceptive on your placement. That can be a good thing long term for your game as it makes you have to focus on control and placement more before going apeschit on the finishing shot. This happens to me every time I use a slower Nexy blade for a month and go back to TBS. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: Nexy
Date Posted: 05/28/2012 at 1:30am
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I will leave a note to help people understand better. I wrote that there will be only a few people who will be attracted by this blade in the blade explanation, but now I think a little bit different. It's quite different from other blades, but that difference will definately be overcame soon. After playing this blade for a while, I can find that this blade will help people play better, because it has good "bang impact", while the weight of it is still light. So, you can attach very heavy rubbers, and then the real value comes out better. People are saying that this blade is still very powerful away from the table, but most of them are using heavy rubbers, recently developed, such as 1Q XD from Tibhar. I will wait more to read others' reviews. Thank you all. ------------- Brand Manager of NEXY |
Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 05/28/2012 at 2:15pm
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I agree with Nexy's post above. This was very similar to my impression of the blade, because I found that it had a surprising amount of power for a blade that was so light (mine is 79g). Ok, so I am finally getting to write the full review. my apologies for the delay, as I had a very busy weekend. So here it is: Rubbers Used: BH = Tenergy 05 / FH = T05 and Barracuda Weight: Blade Weight is 79g, and was not too head-heavy because of its light weight. Sound & Feel: This blade has a hollow sound and an above-average sweet spot compared to other carbon blades. Even my partner noticed the different sound and how it stood out from other blades. However, this sort of helps you know when your hit is done properly, since the sweet spot vibrates a bit and has that hollow sound, so it serves as a mental "marker" for your stroke, but the sound and vibration did not bother me. The vibration is noticeable, but not excessive. I prefer a little vibration anyway. I remember when I played with Innerforce ZLC, I hated that it was so "numb" with no vibrations or anything, but this is a matter of opinion for the player. I agree with Nexy's statement that this blade is quite "different." What I mean is that it feels number and slower with short shots, but open up with vibration and power when driving/looping. I found thsi quite interesting and a little non-linear, but in a good way, because that means it is more forgiving in the short game than other blades that are fast all the time. So I felt confidence in handling the short game with great placement and angles, and knew that the blade would flex and provide more power when I stepped away. FH Hit, Block & Drive: Close to the table is where this blade can really dominate the game. I felt that it was rigid and fast enough to do quick, controlled block and hits, while still having the flexibility and feel to drop back and loop, even close to the table. So I would do some set ups with a hard-angle block and then do a put-away loop. Plus, the light weight allows for quick maneuvers. Short Game (Flicks, Flips, Touch Blocks, etc.): The light weight allows for great wrist movement, which allowed me to get some great flicks and flips off of underspin serves. Touch blocks work nicely because the vibration becomes useful when doing these shots. BH Drives & Hits: In my opinion, this is the blade's biggest weakness. Even with Tenergy 05, I still felt a lack of speed from the BH. This is not to say that I could not hit spinny and fast shots, they just had to stay close. The moment I stepped away (about 3-5 ft.), I had to use all of my power in my BH to keep the same speed, and past 7ft. it was basically impossible to counterhit or counterloop with the BH. FH Loop: This blade is better for driving close to the table, but better for looping away from the table. I think this is due to the way it flexes substantially with greater power, so I could still loop with my FH 7 ft. away because my FH loop away from the table is a longer stroke and the Amazon flexed enough to keep the ball on the blade the whole way through it, so I had no trouble looping. However, I do not think thsi would be the case if I was using a traditional rubber. The fact that I used Tensor Rubbers made a difference in what this blade was capable of. BH Loop: Pretty much the same as mentioned above with the BH drive/hit. I found that I had better luck away from the table if I focused more on spin and less on speed, so that the arc would be greater and the ball would clear the distance. I think the BH will be a little problematic for people using traditional non-tensor rubbers like Sriver, Hurricane, etc. Serves: Nothing unusual here. Performs fine. Chops: I am not a defensive player, so this is not something I explored. However, I do not think it would work very well because of how it flexes when you give it power, so that might hinder a Defensive player's chopping when they get away from the table. My Personal Reccomendations & Opinions: If you are an offensive player like me, then this blade will work well for looping while still being stiff enough to block well. It has good versatility fro the offensive player, BUT YOU MUST USE HIGH-END TENSORS, AND HAVE A VERY FAST TENSOR FOR THE BH. If you use traditional offensive rubbers, then the overall combo will be more like ALL/ALL+. As for the BH, I found T05 to not be enough, and I would recommend T64 or something faster than it. Also, I found the Barracuda to be better on the FH than T05, but that is a personal opinion... However, as I stated in the beginning, this was a 79g blade I was using, and getting a heavier blade will certainly add more power, but I can say that I have never played with a ~80g blade that had as much power as this one, so that counts for something in my book. Overall: I like the blade, and was quite surprised with it, since I can say it is unique and different from other blades I've played. I really like the light-weight, so I will definitely keep this one for now, and it will serve as the blade I use for comparing other light-weight blades that I play with in the future. I think Nexy has gotten quite clever with this blade and it has more versatility than most blades. Whew! All done! Thanks to Nexy and BH-MAN for allowing me to test the Amazon. My apologies if this review is super-lengthy, but hopefully it will be informative   - Jeremy ------------- Selling Everything! No set-up at this time. |
Posted By: Nexy
Date Posted: 05/28/2012 at 9:11pm
I really felt the same way as you felt, when I tested this blade. Regarding back hand, I think you need to find some other way. This blade is not weak at all with back hand, too. But I think there must be some character in your back hand swing movement. I'm pretty sure sooner or later that you will find how to make good back hand. I will post this review in my diary thread. Thank you, again.
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Posted By: Nexy
Date Posted: 05/28/2012 at 9:28pm
What about if you use softer rubber for your back hand side? I wish you could test it and find some better aspect of the blade later.  ------------- Brand Manager of NEXY |
Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 05/29/2012 at 12:01am
Thank you for posting it in your diary thread, I consider that a compliment:) It was my pleasure to test and review the Amazon and I thank you for the opportunity and I hope I can do it for you again some day .I agree with what you said about my Back Hand. If the blade is capable of handling the distances with my FH, then I know it can do it for my BH, but my BH is weaker for sure. I definitely need to improve my power in the BH, as I am still a developing player. I like your idea about a softer rubber on the BH, since that might give more catapult and help make up for my lack of power on the BH side. Any soft rubber that you recommend for the BH? ------------- Selling Everything! No set-up at this time. |
Posted By: Peter C
Date Posted: 05/29/2012 at 9:03am
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128yinyang You might want to read this thread : http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50479&PN=1#623982 - http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50479&PN=1#623982 It gives advice on improving your backhand. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 05/29/2012 at 10:04am
Whew! All done! Thanks to Nexy and BH-MAN for allowing me to test the Amazon. My apologies if this review is super-lengthy, but hopefully it will be informative  
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Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 05/29/2012 at 11:28am
I read that thread :) I found the William Henzell video pretty helpful, but my BH seems to be more of a Chinese style, so it's more of a very fast, compact stroke, rather than the longer, wider European stroke. However, I will certainly try it :) ------------- Selling Everything! No set-up at this time. |
Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 05/29/2012 at 11:29am
I'm glad, because I kept thinking to myself, "Somebody is just going to get tired of this rambling and stop reading half-way through it." Hahaha  ------------- Selling Everything! No set-up at this time. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 5:38pm
I feel flattered but please take out the word "excellent", as it suggests that for some undefined reason my review is better or more trustworthy than the others, which is not the case, as it only tells my subjective impressions. BTW, no more reviews? ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 9:42pm
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Should I simply say well written and lengthy? ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 06/05/2012 at 1:00am
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sounds better, but please do the same for other reviewers. For example I feel that also 128YinYang's review is very informative.
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Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 06/06/2012 at 1:01pm
Thanks, argo. I got a lot from your review as well  On another topic of Nexy blades, I am looking for an Oscar, so if anyone knows of one for sale or trade, please PM me. ------------- Selling Everything! No set-up at this time. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 06/06/2012 at 8:11pm
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YY, Amonth or two ago I bought an Oscar and gave it to my KFTTC team mate for a Primorac Carbon. Sometimes Nexy HQ has an Oscar in their consignment used blade shelf. Any particular price point you looking for? Generally these blades are in top shape and only discounted 20-40%. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 06/06/2012 at 8:12pm
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YY, maybe you could PM elpasott and work something out, I think he still likes the Schlager Carbon. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 06/07/2012 at 4:09am
Thanks for your help, BH-Man. Would I find this on their website, or do I need to call them? I'll definitely have to pm elpasott and see how he/she feels about it. Thanks again! ------------- Selling Everything! No set-up at this time. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 1:29am
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None of the other testers wants to share their first impressions and reviews? ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 11:12am
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I am loving the Calix II so much, I am playing it more than my TBS, so I shall have to send it to an American friend for testing and review.
I plan to go to Nexy HQ Saturday, so I will ask how many actually received their blades to figure this out. either way, the Amazon I got will be in the hands of a defender, then likely in another country. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 11:43am
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BH-Man, if you go to Nexy HQ, see if you can locate a discounted or used Oscar for me . Also, let me know if you want another tester for Calix II. Your review of it is quite intriguing, since it sounds as if it plays similar to my old Stradivarius (very similar to TBS). ------------- Selling Everything! No set-up at this time. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 06/09/2012 at 8:58pm
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128YY, I went to Nexy HQ yesterday to buy some more Calibra LT and checked out the consignment shelf of blades. There was no Oscar there, only a wide variety of TSP, Avolox, Stiga, BTY, Tibhar, and others.
You have an interest in Calix II? Cool. I asked Prez Moon if he was thinking about running an event for the Calix II. He seems to be thinking it over and might go along. I'll ask him again next time I show up there.
I had a hit with his new blade in the Calix series project, the NEXY QABOD, equipped with Calibra LT and Genius. Wow, his blades in this series keep getting better and FASTER. Finally into the OFF category I like. Not rediculous fast, but middle of OFF range, which is good by me. The QABOD is still a couple months away from hitting the streets, but it was cool to have a hit with the pre-production model. Played like a faster version of Calix II, but then again, anything with Calibra LT on FH wing plays like a faster version of the same blade. Still, I am very familiar with Calibra LT and can still tell the difference, QABOD is prolly 1/2 class of speed faster. Calix II is prolly lower end of OFF and this version of QABOD is middle to upper end of OFF, somewhere near TBS speed, maybe a tick faster. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 06/16/2012 at 6:20pm
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One more week has passed: where are the reviews of the other testers? van_doorn has received the blade. Who else? ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: 128YinYang
Date Posted: 06/16/2012 at 6:45pm
Thanks so much for looking for an Oscar for me. my apologies for the late reply, as I have been very busy this past week. You said there were Avalox? I am currently interested in a cheap Avalox P500 or BT550. Any of those available? and for how much? And keep me updated on the Calix II, and I can't wait to see what Qabod does ------------- Selling Everything! No set-up at this time. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 06/26/2012 at 6:20pm
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Where are the reviews of the other testers? I myself haven't been playing for a month now. It's about time to find a club close to my new place! In the meantime, I noticed that after only few hours of play, the handle of my Amazon started staining, as it's made of a very light and porous wood. I definitely recommend sealing it. So I made it smooth again with some fine sandpaper and applied a layer of the linseed oil-based countertop oil I had left. It's now gotten a hazel colour that stands out against the White Ash outer layers and makes the blade even more pleasant. I could have used the countertop oil to treat the blade surface as well, but I preferred to seal the surface with a thin layer of PU finish, so as to keep the White Ash white. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 06/27/2012 at 3:26am
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Good Question arg0, I think I have played enough with Amazon to know it, so I should do as i said I would and ship it to a friend in USA to test/review, then ask him to pass it around the forum, like say a friend in England or such afterwards.
The Amazon is a perfectly good blade for what pundits recommend for OFF minus speed and feel, but these days, I find the Calix II glued to my hand as much as my TBS. That says a lot. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 06/27/2012 at 4:27am
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I haven't found time to test it yet. Been busy with school and regular leagues this season. It's almost over and i'm hoping to write the first impressions next week! I'll keep you all posted!
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 07/06/2012 at 6:46pm
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Who else has received an Amazon for testing?
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Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 08/08/2012 at 12:09pm
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Okay, so here's the deal. I haven't found the time, nor will i find time any time soon to review this beautiful blade. Therefore i would like to give some else the chance to review this badboy. Blade is brand new, practically not played, only had some rubbers glued to it. The blade is free, but you only have to pay the shipping charges from the Netherlands to your country. With box the Shipping world wide is 30 dollars. Without box the shipping is 15 dollars. The first one to PM me gets the blade. It would be nice if your intentions are to review the blade and not get is as a steal. If you're done with it would also be nice to give someone else the chance to review it. ------------- Butterfly Harimoto sZLC Butterfly Tenergy 05 Xiom Vega Japan http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35143&PID=432629#432629" rel="nofollow - MyFeedbackSection |
Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 10/09/2012 at 8:38am
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Haven't received one PM so the blade is still available. Let me know if you want to test it! ------------- Butterfly Harimoto sZLC Butterfly Tenergy 05 Xiom Vega Japan http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35143&PID=432629#432629" rel="nofollow - MyFeedbackSection |
Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 10/09/2012 at 10:55am
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Somebody who likes OFF Minus class blade would have a good one on their hands. This blade and the Qabod are currently in my Nexy ruck I carry everywhere and break out for club members or on visits to other clubs. Maybe if we ask at Pimp My Blade forum we might more of a response. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 10/10/2012 at 5:04pm
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That's a steal. I can't believe nobody is interested. I'd get it if I didn't already have one. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: Brainstorm69
Date Posted: 10/10/2012 at 7:23pm
How much does it weigh? |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 10/11/2012 at 1:47am
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Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 10/11/2012 at 5:20am
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I'm giving it two more days. If no one wants it i'm gonna keep it and maybe use it in a later stadium. I've tried my best to give someone else the chance. So if you are interested contact me fast! :) ------------- Butterfly Harimoto sZLC Butterfly Tenergy 05 Xiom Vega Japan http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35143&PID=432629#432629" rel="nofollow - MyFeedbackSection |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 10/11/2012 at 6:15pm
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If you announced this in the For Sale thread, I'm sure vultures would circle above your Amazon in less than two days.
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Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 10/12/2012 at 5:03am
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I know, but i don't want to send the blade to vultures. It would be nice if the blade goes to someone who genuinely wants to try the blade and not get is as a steal or to make money out of it. :) ------------- Butterfly Harimoto sZLC Butterfly Tenergy 05 Xiom Vega Japan http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35143&PID=432629#432629" rel="nofollow - MyFeedbackSection |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 10/12/2012 at 5:09am
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Indeed, I agree with your decision. If nobody wants it now, maybe you'll find the time, sooner or later, to review it yourself. A pending review is still better than no review.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 10/12/2012 at 5:47am
Hmm, $30 for shipping a blade in a box from Netherlands to UK - you must be kidding, sir.
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 10/12/2012 at 7:15am
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Traceable shipping world wide is indeed €24,30, so it's actually even a bit more than $30: http://www.postnl.nl/voorthuis/pakket-versturen/pakket-buitenland-met-track-trace/ - http://www.postnl.nl/voorthuis/pakket-versturen/pakket-buitenland-met-track-trace/ But I'm sure he didn't intend to charge more than the actual shipping costs, so to the UK it would be about €13. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 10/12/2012 at 8:02am
This is a shipping quote for shipping outside the EU. Shipping to the UK is 15 euro including box. So not making money on it at all. These are just the prices. ------------- Butterfly Harimoto sZLC Butterfly Tenergy 05 Xiom Vega Japan http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35143&PID=432629#432629" rel="nofollow - MyFeedbackSection |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 10/12/2012 at 10:22am
Even 15 euro is way too much. Contra.de ships a blade plus 3 rubbers from Germany to UK via DHL for just 5.95 euro. |
Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 10/12/2012 at 10:46am
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Well i can't get it cheaper. These are the prices i have to pay at the post office. If you are a shop which ship items a lot of times you can get deals with the post office to ship items cheaper. This is the price i have to pay to ship the blade to the UK. If you don't like it, don't pay it :)
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 10/12/2012 at 12:07pm
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Actually, €15 for a brand new blade which you can only get from Korea and that costs $102 (currently discounted by 15%) plus shipping still seems to be a huge deal to me. Even at €30 it would be a deal. But if you're not interested, any price is too high. ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |
Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 11/08/2012 at 9:21am
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The blade has been send to Pondus he should receive it any day now!
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 05/13/2013 at 6:55pm
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Pondus, did you have time to review it? Added some recent impressions to http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50153&PN=1#620669 - my review . ------------- Nexy Arche & Nittaku Violin LG. Join the forum_posts.asp?TID=47778" rel="nofollow - Nexy Clan ! Also member of Violin & 1-Ply clans. |