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Topic: U.S. Nationwide Table Tennis League
Posted By: USNTTL
Subject: U.S. Nationwide Table Tennis League
Date Posted: 05/23/2012 at 3:34pm
The U.S. Nationwide Table Tennis League starts in September 2012.
You may see the promotional video on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPxrncXMWo&feature=share - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPxrncXMWo&feature=share
Please like and share the video and market our sport as we never did before.
The Advisory Board Members for the Nationwide League are Bowie Martin, Ben Nisbet, David Del Vecchio, and Larry Hodges.


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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 05/23/2012 at 3:59pm
Would you guys mind taking over the USATT? Big smile

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Posted By: paradisoch
Date Posted: 05/23/2012 at 9:36pm
Great video!


Posted By: jinlai
Date Posted: 05/24/2012 at 9:06am
Good video, spread the love of table tennis.


Posted By: Globe999
Date Posted: 08/24/2012 at 11:32pm
We held a warm-up event out our club tonight.  I forgot to take pictures.
So far Trolley Car TTC beat Phoenixville TTC 5-1.



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Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 08/25/2012 at 5:07pm
I really hope that this series blossoms to become a top class league. 



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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 08/25/2012 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by Globe999 Globe999 wrote:

We held a warm-up event out our club tonight.  I forgot to take pictures.
So far Trolley Car TTC beat Phoenixville TTC 5-1.



6 games? what is the format of your match


Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 08/25/2012 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by Globe999 Globe999 wrote:

We held a warm-up event out our club tonight.  I forgot to take pictures.
So far Trolley Car TTC beat Phoenixville TTC 5-1.



6 games? what is the format of your match

probably best of 9 matches. 

A,B,C vs X,Y,Z = 9 matches


Posted By: Globe999
Date Posted: 08/25/2012 at 6:11pm
Like this:



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Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/08/2017 at 3:02am

Update anyone, how is this progressing, status ?

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Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/08/2017 at 2:02pm

Can the TT Community learn from failures ?

Is it feasible if designed another way ?

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Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/09/2017 at 6:49pm
Originally posted by jt99sf jt99sf wrote:

Would you guys mind taking over the USATT? Big smile


??? Why ???

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Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 12:38pm

On the front end, this appeared to be a great idea.

I heard that less than 20 teams actually entered, not sure if correct.

A lot of hard work and planning went into that with great intentions.

What kind of discussion or study could have been done to predict that ?


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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 1:09pm
Looking at a map of the United States complete with mileage scale bars.  And costs of travel.


Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Looking at a map of the United States complete with mileage scale bars.  And costs of travel.


Maybe the solution there, have quad meets like track, where all the competing teams and clubs meet at one location for a closed like tournament and take turns hosting.

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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 1:33pm
I guess then it's just like the various team tournaments we already have except the teams represent clubs and regions.

Actually I wish it could work but we need an insanely rich investor who thinks he could make money off it.

A league in a place like Belgium or Netherlands is easier to pull off!


Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

I guess then it's just like the various team tournaments we already have except the teams represent clubs and regions.

Actually I wish it could work but we need an insanely rich investor who thinks he could make money off it.

A league in a place like Belgium or Netherlands is easier to pull off!


How do those leagues work ?

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Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 1:51pm
Originally posted by LUCKYLOOP LUCKYLOOP wrote:


On the front end, this appeared to be a great idea.

I heard that less than 20 teams actually entered, not sure if correct.

A lot of hard work and planning went into that with great intentions.

What kind of discussion or study could have been done to predict that ?


Little $$$, long trips, duh.

Note that one of the people on the advisory board was Dave Del Vecchio, he also runs the LA local USATT league - LATTF, which I played in for several years. Some of the issues are the same.

LATTF hit a peak with about 7 divisions and slowly lost teams after start up. Most of the higher level players aren't playing now. The biggest complaint by people I know was drive time to get to other clubs.

The last time I played my team was in a division with teams from Rancho Cucamonga and Thousand Oaks. It is about a 2 hour drive from RC to TO with no traffic. I lived in the middle of the two, so it still took an hour to get to each of those clubs. Playing TT killed an entire day for 2 matches.

In the highest division, there used to be a couple of 2300/2400+ people who drove up from San Diego. They are no longer playing.

If you live near the middle of LA, you can get to Westside TT, Santa Monica, and 2 clubs in Korea Town within 30 min. Add another 10 min or so and you can be in the San Gabriel Valley where there are three clubs - LATTA/Gao Jun/Grace Lin.







Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 2:26pm
We wanted to do this within Texas at one point, since there were (and are) quite a number of 2500-2650 players.   It is a four-five hour drive from Houston to Dallas depending on traffic (for example).  At the end of the day, nobody wanted to organize it and really good players didn't want to make the trip and pay the hotel and gas if they weren't reasonably sure they would get paid.

Texas is the same size as France.  Imagine trying to have a league match between a Houston team and an LA team.


Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 2:40pm

A simple questionnaire emailed to registered USATT clubs should have alerted the organizers whether they would get enough participation for the league and if not why.

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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 3:14pm
Oh well.  It was five years ago.  Water under the bridge.


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 5:43pm
US Table tennis needs its own version of Rex Sinquefield.  Then the sport will have a future.

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Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 12:33am

Yes, a philanthropist could help jumpstart the sport in the USA.

This is a good example of people who know a lot about TT in the USA who simply overestimated their plan.



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Posted By: qpskfec
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 1:05pm
Philanthropy has been tried to promote table tennis.

Arthur Gilbert put on the Gilbert Cups in the 90s, which featured top players like Waldner, Saive, Cheng Yinghua, KTS.

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Posted By: GMan4911
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 1:22pm
Maybe Mark Zuckerberg.  Who wants to step up and pitch it to him?  There is an obvious choice but I don't know her well enough to see if she's up for the task.









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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 3:35pm
Ariel has had many meetings with Warren Buffet (and Bill Gates).

You can make an absolute killing coaching in these 'techie' campuses, but the philanthropy from these 'techie' communities (despite so much $$$$$$$$$$$) has been lacking.

:)


Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 4:53pm
Philanthropy has bigger concerns than funding professional ping pong - Buffett, Gates, Zuck all know this.

Corporate sponsors might be interested eventually, but the sport isn't there yet.


Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Philanthropy has bigger concerns than funding professional ping pong - Buffett, Gates, Zuck all know this.

Corporate sponsors might be interested eventually, but the sport isn't there yet.


Not even close!


Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 8:23pm
Only if it was not super expensive to enter these leagues, i don't think any other country's leagues charge this much, i may be wrong about it, but can someone from Germany or Europe in general weigh in on how much does it cost to enter a tournament?

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Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 8:34pm
Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Philanthropy has bigger concerns than funding professional ping pong - Buffett, Gates, Zuck all know this.

Corporate sponsors might be interested eventually, but the sport isn't there yet.


Not even close!


I would think a philanthropist would not promote "professional ping pong" but more concerned with Ping Pong for the general population, which could help the sport in the USA.

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Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 8:54pm
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I would think a philanthropist would not promote "professional ping pong" but more concerned with Ping Pong for the general population, which could help the sport in the USA.[/QUOTE]

There are so many more worthy causes than ping pong.  It would have to be someone that really loves and plays the sport. 

There are many very rich players who don't give much to ping pong.  If our own rich players won't help the sport, why should an outsider?


Posted By: LUCKYLOOP
Date Posted: 05/05/2017 at 8:01pm

Will there ever be any regional hobby Leagues formed by the locals ?

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Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 05/05/2017 at 8:30pm
Originally posted by LUCKYLOOP LUCKYLOOP wrote:


Will there ever be any regional hobby Leagues formed by the locals ?


What is a hobby league? 

Most clubs have leagues with all levels of play.  At our club the weakest players play in the bottom group. 


Posted By: Vince64
Date Posted: 05/05/2017 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Originally posted by LUCKYLOOP LUCKYLOOP wrote:


Will there ever be any regional hobby Leagues formed by the locals ?


What is a hobby league? 

Most clubs have leagues with all levels of play.  At our club the weakest players play in the bottom group. 
Have you forgotten already, LL hobby league is ping pong where winning and losing is irrelevant. You're only there to talk neighborhood gossip with your neighbors in between non competitve games in the garage! Lol

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Posted By: mts388
Date Posted: 05/05/2017 at 8:47pm
Then there is a hobby league in every garage. 

We have two groups in the area who play in different barns.  They drink beer and tell lies.  Usually about 10 players and one table.  Once a year they get together and play each other.


Posted By: pgpg
Date Posted: 05/05/2017 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Then there is a hobby league in every garage. 

We have two groups in the area who play in different barns.  They drink beer and tell lies.  Usually about 10 players and one table.  Once a year they get together and play each other.

Hmm, you had me at 'beer'... Seriously - one of the best parts of Hilversum TT club in Netherlands (visited there last month) is a bar right outside the playing hall. Might be a bit hard to pull it off here, though, with licensing and all. 


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Posted By: jfolsen
Date Posted: 05/05/2017 at 9:06pm
Originally posted by LUCKYLOOP LUCKYLOOP wrote:


Will there ever be any regional hobby Leagues formed by the locals ?


We have the Capital Area Table Tennis League here, draws from Northern Virginia, DC and southern Maryland. Two seasons a year, team competition, with six singles and a doubles match. Been pretty stable at about 100 players, 4 divisions of 6 teams each. Ratings from sub-1000 to 2400.

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Posted By: berndt_mann
Date Posted: 05/05/2017 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

Then there is a hobby league in every garage. 

We have two groups in the area who play in different barns.  They drink beer and tell lies.  Usually about 10 players and one table.  Once a year they get together and play each other.

Hmm, you had me at 'beer'... Seriously - one of the best parts of Hilversum TT club in Netherlands (visited there last month) is a bar right outside the playing hall. Might be a bit hard to pull it off here, though, with licensing and all. 

Yeah Mike, nothing beats getting a bunch of buddies to play in your garage, breaking out the brewskis, and swapping war stories about your table tennis exploits, some plausible, but none true.

The Hilversum Club, pgpg, sounds like a pretty good place to play.  Especially when I could drink pints of good cold tall ones, and my world class strokes in slow motion would not be affected.  Beer probably even helped my defense.

Now I think I know why Waldner ran into some problems against a few Dutchmen at recent Hilversum tournaments.  The barkeeps may have spiked Waldner's Amstel Light with Absolut.


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