yasaka malin carbon??
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Topic: yasaka malin carbon??
Posted By: pingpongkf
Subject: yasaka malin carbon??
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 12:06am
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is there a new yasaka blade called the MaLin carbon? or is that just the Gatien Carbon?? ------------- http://www.speedpong.net - - www.speedpong.net TT EQUIPMENTS: Nittaku, Butterfly, Stiga, Yasaka, Galaxy YinHe, DHS, Friendship, Globe. |
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Posted By: jake_my
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 2:11am
| Its the ma lin carbon. Costs 60% more than the gatien carbon. Very light at 76gm but hard in feel. |
Posted By: jc48573
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 2:12am
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are u serious? where u get this info from? i want to know more. ------------- Blade: Yasaka Gatien Extra, Primorac 2000 CS (traditional only) FH: Globe 999/999T BH: Sriver-D13-L, Sriver EL (RPB) |
Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 4:54am
| OMFG..! The Ma Lin carbon blade doesn't weight 76 gm, it weights 90 gm. ALso it's not more expensive than gatien carbon. |
Posted By: pingpongkf
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 10:15am
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this makes me itchy to see the blade, any sites I can see this blade?? ------------- http://www.speedpong.net - - www.speedpong.net TT EQUIPMENTS: Nittaku, Butterfly, Stiga, Yasaka, Galaxy YinHe, DHS, Friendship, Globe. |
Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 12:04pm
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See my blade:
http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rubber0015np.jpg http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rubber0024np.jpg http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rubber0034bp.jpg http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rubber0043qd.jpg |
Posted By: DocC
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 12:08pm
| How's it compared to the Gatien Carbon? Or other carbon blades, e.g., Gergely, Sadius, Kreanga? I found the 2nd handed one in the market and am very tempted to try. |
Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 12:41pm
I don't know how it's compared to other blades, because I have only used 3 blades. 
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Posted By: jc48573
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 2:15pm
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i think jake_my was confusing it wit the soft carbon yasaka which is roughly around 76-78 grams. But i dunno about the 60% more expensive, but i know that in Japan and some other countries in asia where they sell the ma lin blade for a really expensive price. i saw a chinese site where they were selling over 100 dollars and not 65 bucks just because it has ma lin's signature and all. ------------- Blade: Yasaka Gatien Extra, Primorac 2000 CS (traditional only) FH: Globe 999/999T BH: Sriver-D13-L, Sriver EL (RPB) |
Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 2:21pm
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100 dollars, that is redicilous!
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Posted By: jc48573
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 2:28pm
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i totally agree. ------------- Blade: Yasaka Gatien Extra, Primorac 2000 CS (traditional only) FH: Globe 999/999T BH: Sriver-D13-L, Sriver EL (RPB) |
Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 2:33pm
| jc48573 could you write some of the links to these websites? |
Posted By: jc48573
Date Posted: 02/18/2006 at 2:38pm
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i will try to look for them. i just happen to find it in some asian site that my friend sent me. if i see him online i will ask him for the link. he should have it on his favorites since he does most of his shopping there. ------------- Blade: Yasaka Gatien Extra, Primorac 2000 CS (traditional only) FH: Globe 999/999T BH: Sriver-D13-L, Sriver EL (RPB) |
Posted By: Sabito
Date Posted: 02/19/2006 at 9:08am
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Hey chops those pictures are tempting me to buy one man Thanks a lot |
Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/19/2006 at 11:28am
| Sabito it's a little bit hard questions. The first blade I have at my won was a Stiga blade with some weird rubbers called triumf or something. It was a cheap pre-assambled blade. After that I try buying me a blade at my own, I bought Andro supercore def. I played in long time with my andro blade, but I didn't like it, it was to slow and the head-size was to big. Well after that I bought Yasaka Ma lin carbon, and I like that blade. The blade feels a little bit hard, that is maybe because I have varnish it. Compared to my andro blade the yasaka is faster and the sweetspoot is very big, so it is like I have really much controle in my strokes. I can easily feel my rubbers, because the glue soften the sponge up. |
Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/19/2006 at 11:41am
Also Sabito thanks for your comments 
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Posted By: tt-jan06
Date Posted: 02/19/2006 at 6:27pm
| The Ma Lin carbon was definitely 76gm from the shop scales. No mistake! But I thought the stiga optimum was cooler in looks(same weight) and I bought that (that ws a mistake!). The Ma Lin carbon costs about $85 from the same place that Fadli told me. Fadli bought his gatien carbon for <$60. Fadli, what is the weight of your gatien carbon? |
Posted By: jake_my
Date Posted: 02/19/2006 at 7:15pm
| BTW, the weight of 76 gm for the Ma Lin carbon was for a penhold. I was surprised that it was so light for a carbon blade and closely examined it. It was very thin and thought that it was a little flimsy for the price. Chops, can you tell us how it plays? |
Posted By: AZNpenholdloop
Date Posted: 02/19/2006 at 8:31pm
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are there any cheaper versions in asia? Is the hurricane king cheap in China or same? ------------- Avalox 550 FH: Blue Whale II Factory Tuned 38 deg. BH: White Shark II Factory Tuned |
Posted By: TTPLAYER
Date Posted: 02/20/2006 at 3:11am
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http://www.iruiru.com - www.iruiru.com has the Ma Lin Carbon and Ma Lin Carbon Soft blades for 6400 Yen (~54 U.S. dollars). http://www.iruiru.com/e/bc/bc07.html - http://www.iruiru.com/e/bc/bc07.html (shakehands) http://www.iruiru.com/e/bc/bc11.html - http://www.iruiru.com/e/bc/bc11.html (penhold)
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Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/20/2006 at 6:11am
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I would say it's a good looping blade for the spin offensive. It works well with hard rubbers like: Rapid and Torpedo, I can easily get spin because the glue soften the sponge. The thing I was most impressed by, was I feel the blade has much more control, than my old Andro supercore def blade. That is maybe because the yasaka blade has a huge sweetspoot.
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Posted By: jake_my
Date Posted: 02/20/2006 at 5:16pm
| Thanks chops. Sounds like my ideal choice, the ma lin carbon. Do you think that it will work well with bryce? Best guess pls. |
Posted By: chops
Date Posted: 02/20/2006 at 5:32pm
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Well I can't say how it works with bryce, because I have not tried that rubber. The only thing I can say is Bryce gonna be my next rubber, when my torpedo has lost it's juice!
If you want more information about bryce try look at this topic http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4798&KW=bryce - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4798&KW=bryce |
Posted By: jake_my
Date Posted: 02/20/2006 at 6:55pm
| I use Bryce on most of my blades now. Cermet as an alternative if they don't have bryce. Excellent rubber. But blade combination is important too. So do let us know when you change. |
Posted By: jc48573
Date Posted: 02/20/2006 at 9:05pm
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Hmmm....Ma Lin soft carbon, that is pretty light for a blade. is it really 76 grams? it's pretty cheap too. about the same price as here but including shipping and handling as well. Men people are ripping us off here. I guess i will order from iruiru from now on. ------------- Blade: Yasaka Gatien Extra, Primorac 2000 CS (traditional only) FH: Globe 999/999T BH: Sriver-D13-L, Sriver EL (RPB) |
Posted By: timtex37
Date Posted: 02/16/2007 at 11:56am
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can Anyone tell me the difference between the yasaka gatien extra and the ma lin soft carbon, I am using the optimum sync right now and would like t try a yasaka blade but perfer similar feel to my stiga optimum sync penhold blade. PLEASE HELp . thanks ------------- CPEN Blade Stiga Optimum Sync | OSP Virtuoso (awaiting) FH DHS SkyLine 2 Neo | BH LKT Rapid Soft | Shoes Mizuno Wave Drive A |
Posted By: idchong3
Date Posted: 02/16/2007 at 12:27pm
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i am currently using ma lin carbon... wow .. this blade got better feel then " Huricanne king " i use it with harder rubber such as chinese rubber... they are better combination as you can have the solid sinking feel into the sponge and catapult out from the blade... very good for fast block and couter loop with medium hardness sponge... so far i have tested with many rubbers and the ones with best solid touch is sriver,almana, H3,H2 , skyline 2 and 3 and 999 -T4... however, soft rubbers is not good on malin carbon as it is easier to pop up the ball when receiving and it doesnt stick to the top sheet as much when serving hence producing uncontrollable spin and trajectory... some of the rubbers that is not suitable for this blade is hammond pro , pro alpha, and tension rubbers... It is definately faster than gatien carbon yet has good control over block, spins and the best part is loop drive... my control on and off the table has significantly improved and that makes my third ball attack more threatening... hope this helps... ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon Forehand- Stiga Almana Backhand- Palio CJ 8000 |
Posted By: timtex37
Date Posted: 02/16/2007 at 12:58pm
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I have used Stiga super carbon and butterfly primorac carbon and both gave me a hard time when it came to blcoking but with my stiga optimum sync, i can block a lot better. I don't want to get too many blades but would love to get either the yasaka gatien Extra or Ma Lin SOFT carbon after I can out which on is more like my Optimum sync. The reason why I want to switch blades even though my current one is good is because I feel uncortable holding the blade during play and when doing rpb. and i have heard people said that yasaka penhold blades are best for rpb and comfortable grip. PLEASE HELP ------------- CPEN Blade Stiga Optimum Sync | OSP Virtuoso (awaiting) FH DHS SkyLine 2 Neo | BH LKT Rapid Soft | Shoes Mizuno Wave Drive A |
Posted By: fiveplyian
Date Posted: 02/16/2007 at 1:16pm
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Translated report from japanese site ......
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjasupo.com%2Freport%2Fmlc.htm&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools - http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjasupo.com%2Freport%2Fmlc.htm&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
According to yasaka site it would be 90g +- 5g ------------- Ian |
Posted By: GantZ
Date Posted: 02/16/2007 at 1:20pm
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I am planning on buying a new blade, but would like to know how much of a difference i am going to expect. Currently, i am still using my sig. setup with the 896. I am not too fond of the hard feeling of carbon, but everyone is praising the ma lin carbon as some super control loop machine. My choice really boils down to the ma lin carbon or hurricane hao. Since hurricane hao is 5ply wood, i am probably more inclined to buy it. Yet, there are absolutely no reviews on the performance of this blade. I really want the desire to choose the ma lin carbon, so somebody please impress me. ------------- Equipment: Petr Korbel Sriver EL |
Posted By: tthj2
Date Posted: 02/16/2007 at 8:01pm
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I use ma lin carbon with yasaka New Era rubber and I have tried it with 729-2, and H3. One thing I noticed is to generate speed with ma lin carbon one has to really swing it hard because it is not that fast. It's good for blocking and counter spinning and has good control; but, again one has to swing it hard. I haven't tried it with soft rubbers nor speed glue. ------------- Ted |
Posted By: O! Ju Qian
Date Posted: 02/17/2007 at 2:21am
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it's just an aggressive version of a wood blade like extra. ------------- BL: Yasaka Extra Offensive CP FH: Hurricane 3 Pro BH: Tenergy 05 "Practice is USELESS if you don't understand what you are doing." |
Posted By: sverige
Date Posted: 02/17/2007 at 6:55am
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This blades feel is good enough for choppers. ------------- Donic J-O Waldner Carbon Senso Donic J-O Waldner red 2,3(bh) DHS Hurricane 3 black 2,2(fh) |
Posted By: hwstar
Date Posted: 02/20/2007 at 9:09am
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Ma Lin Carbon is exactly Gatien Carbon, they sell almost the same price. But everyone knows that MaLin himeself isn't using it. |
Posted By: Kennie
Date Posted: 02/20/2007 at 9:41am
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just to make things clear..
the yasaka ma lin carbon and yasaka ma lin soft carbon are the latest yasaka carbon blades. they are similar to the old gatien, but a bit faster. i think they are great bcz they have great speed but also a fantastic touch and feeling. ma lin himself was using the ma lin carbon during his fantastic last year when he won 5 or 6 pro tour competitions. now he has the yasaka extra II(same as allround 40) with ma lin carbon handle, but just like other chinese players he likes to test new blades very often. for example wang hao used yasaka extra and carbon during a long time. ------------- Blade: YASAKA Ma Lin Soft Carbon Fh: YASAKA PRYDE Bh: YASAKA Xtend HS |
Posted By: pony
Date Posted: 02/20/2007 at 3:48pm
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all yasaka blades made in Sweden
http://www.ttex.se/cgi-private/shop/Shop.cgi?Action=ShowGroup&Group=/stommar/yasaka - http://www.ttex.se/cgi-private/shop/Shop.cgi?Action=ShowGroup&Group=/stommar/yasaka
krone/usd ratio is about 7. ------------- at your service |
Posted By: pingpongkf
Date Posted: 02/20/2007 at 7:40pm
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Both the malin carbon and soft carbon are about 90 grams +/- 3~4, with the soft carbon being a bit lighter and a different top ply. i don't know what but the top ply is different. They both give incredible speed, can't tell the difference, altough they say the regular is faster. ------------- http://www.speedpong.net - - www.speedpong.net TT EQUIPMENTS: Nittaku, Butterfly, Stiga, Yasaka, Galaxy YinHe, DHS, Friendship, Globe. |
Posted By: jasonz
Date Posted: 02/20/2007 at 9:27pm
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ma lin carbon is the same as the gatien carbon with different cosmetics, they are both very nice blades, Ma Lin is playing with extra II with ma lin carbon handle (he changes blade quite often to test different combinations out) ------------- Jason Z Stiga Xu Xin Dynasty FH DHS TG -60 Soft BH DHS H3 white sponge pro |
Posted By: ????
Date Posted: 02/21/2007 at 4:28am
| ma lin carbon is a 7 ply blade, with 2 thin layers of wood on the outside followed by a carbon layer then a thick middle ply maybe balsa. gatien carbon is a 5 ply blade with one very thin layer of wood on the outside followed by a thin layer of carbon then a thick layer of i think balsa. ma lin carbon is meant to be faster and stiffer probably so better for blocking |
Posted By: powerplay.de
Date Posted: 02/21/2007 at 8:51am
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i dont think that the centre ply is balsa. It looks more like ayous, abachi. centre ply abachi,ayous ~3mm carbon some darkbrown hard wood type ? ~0.6mm outer ply limba ~0.5mm ------------- BT777, Ishlion, U2 Hinoki, Baum Senso, TBS T05 T05 |
Posted By: gekogark1212
Date Posted: 02/22/2007 at 5:05am
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Hey can someone please give a breif comparison of the MaLin Soft Carbon to the TBS? Even as brief as which is faster would be fine. Thanks a mil, Gark ------------- (\__/) (='.'=) But there's no sense crying over every mistake, (")_(") You just keep on trying till you run out of cake. |
Posted By: Kennie
Date Posted: 02/22/2007 at 5:46am
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the ma lin carbon is more powerful than tbs, its faster and has a more solid touch, it also has greater sweetspot. ------------- Blade: YASAKA Ma Lin Soft Carbon Fh: YASAKA PRYDE Bh: YASAKA Xtend HS |
Posted By: wise
Date Posted: 12/10/2008 at 1:19am
| i would like to ask which blade would be better yasaka ma lin carbon or yasaka ma lin soft carbon?? also i am planning to use 1 of the 3 tenergies probably 05 or 64 on the front and nothing on the back, the traditional Cpen way. |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/12/2009 at 3:23am
I've just got a 92,5 gr ST handle Ma Lin Carbon. I put H3 Provincial 40 deg and Roxon 500. First I thought Ma Lin Carbon is a fast carbon blades with little woody feel. Infact it's slower than my Hking ST but it has better feel (woody feel) than Hking!!!! It's hard, harder than Hking but it has big sweet spot. The ST handle of Ma lin Carbon has the same dimention as Hking ST but more squarish. Since Malin carbon's price is almost 1/3 of Hking ST, it's a good altenative blade. ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
idchong3 wrote:Posted By: lu1648
Date Posted: 03/12/2009 at 9:27am
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Cool, seems like a pretty cheap blade for a nice price. I feel so lucky to get it so cheap from someone on this forum. I've only played with stiff carbon blade before and H3 on MLC feels soft initially. Since I'm a newbie, I wasn't even sure if that's a good thing. But now that everybody likes it, I feels so lucky cuz I just bought the blade blindly without really knowing how it feels or which rubbers to put on... I also bought a sheet of MarkV which is 2.0mm. After playing MLC, I think I won't put it on b/c it's only gonna make the blade feels softer than the H3 2.2mm that it has. |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/12/2009 at 10:32pm
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Yasaka Blade quality is good and the price is reasonable. The quality is even better than Stiga (Ma lin carbon vs Stiga Hybrid Wood).
------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: Halibass
Date Posted: 03/12/2009 at 11:59pm
| Has anyone tried the 3D Soft Carbon? It's supposed to be a newer model. |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 03/13/2009 at 12:10am
| i think its so funny this thread was dug up. A penholder at my club has played the gatien carbon for years the same blade and this week he decided to order a new blade. Its the MLC. I didnt even know the gatien carbon was still sold.. (or maybe it isn't anyway) because before seeing it, I'd never heard of it. But I know that he said the MLC is harder for sure.. which is why he got it. |
Posted By: addoydude
Date Posted: 03/13/2009 at 8:25am
| I got MLC recently. I like it. |
Posted By: whirlwind
Date Posted: 03/17/2009 at 3:52am
sounds great! i'm planning to use this blade also, i love chinese rubbers! 
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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/17/2009 at 4:21am
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O3 Bios really kicks hard on MLC compared to Mambo GP. It's far better than Roxon 500 due to softer sponge and grippier topsheet. Easier to loop than roxon 500 on FH. Very good rubber for countering for mid distance. This rubber is controlabe if putting on MLC, not too hard not too soft, medium feel. I hope it last long. ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: Pingpongping
Date Posted: 03/27/2009 at 7:41pm
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Hi Guys,
just join the club. great reviews on the MLC.
quite motivated to get one.
I also find the stiga blade quality poor, i got blister from using it. but the play quality is good.
thinking of using the MLc with TG3 on forehand and omega III on back.
any suggestions? ------------- Stiga Optimum Sync FH: DHS TG3 BH: XIOM OMEGA III |
Posted By: jhoerene
Date Posted: 03/27/2009 at 9:26pm
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The Ma lin Carbon and the Malin soft carbon are sold at: http://www.megaspin.net http://www.americantabletennis.com |
Posted By: whirlwind
Date Posted: 03/28/2009 at 3:54am
i wonder if BW2 will match with the YMLC 
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Posted By: kruno
Date Posted: 03/29/2009 at 1:25am
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MLC is the 15th blade I bought (I've been keeping all of them in my collection) I just tried it for 15mins, FH: Beijing tuttle, BH: nittaku micro. The first feelings were: 1. heavy weight 2. good tone 3. Adequate control 4. Good speed 5. slightly vibrate In Vietnam it costs me around $45. In conclusion, it's a worth blade to try. PS: please forgive me for my bad English. |
Posted By: Antony
Date Posted: 09/04/2011 at 7:56am
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For MLC, other than Chinese rubbers on FH for my friend using Cpen, is there any suggestions? He is not a fan of glueing and looks like most people prefer to have it with Chinese rubbers. Anyone has tried something with Donic, Stiga or BTY rubers? ------------- Hong Kong, Singapore, Sweden, Australia Liu Shiwen & OC-CR (FH: Globe999 BH:M2) KLHS(FH:G999 BH:T05FX) TBS(FH:T05 BH:T64) OC-WRB(FH:H3 BH:Hammond Pro-Alpha) Carbo7.6(FH:H3 BH:T64) |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 09/29/2011 at 5:33pm
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I am an 1100-1200 rated player, female, and have been playing a year and a half. I have the ma lin carbon blade (off minus) which I like but need to replace Donic Coppa X (chips easily) on my forehand....would you recommend any of the Mark v series rubbers? I do have an aggressive forehand for the backhand, I loop and block mainly...the forehand, I smash, loop drive and am building consistency with a straight loop. I'm developing more spin, but would say I emphasize the speed a bit more. Any other recommendations would be appreciated.
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Posted By: Antony
Date Posted: 09/29/2011 at 6:05pm
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midge4673, are you playing with shakehand? ------------- Hong Kong, Singapore, Sweden, Australia Liu Shiwen & OC-CR (FH: Globe999 BH:M2) KLHS(FH:G999 BH:T05FX) TBS(FH:T05 BH:T64) OC-WRB(FH:H3 BH:Hammond Pro-Alpha) Carbo7.6(FH:H3 BH:T64) |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 09/29/2011 at 6:14pm
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Yes, I use shakehand. I use 2.0 thickness on the current rubbers; I use Stiga Innova on my BH. On my original Stiga control blade, I had Skyline 3 on the forehand...is spinny and durable but adds alot of weight to the blade. My Ma Lin Carbon blade and Stiga control blade with the rubbers are within 2 - 3 grams of each other, but I prefer the Ma Lin Soft Carbon Blade.
This is probably more info. than you wanted, but I thought I'd add that in.
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Posted By: Antony
Date Posted: 09/29/2011 at 6:22pm
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what stiga control blade did u use? ------------- Hong Kong, Singapore, Sweden, Australia Liu Shiwen & OC-CR (FH: Globe999 BH:M2) KLHS(FH:G999 BH:T05FX) TBS(FH:T05 BH:T64) OC-WRB(FH:H3 BH:Hammond Pro-Alpha) Carbo7.6(FH:H3 BH:T64) |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 09/29/2011 at 6:33pm
| I can't seem to identify the exact name as I do not have the paddle in front of me and can't find it on paddlepalace.com, but it is an all around blade; I was told by paddle palace, where I purchased it, that it is around $25. It has an orange circle emblem in the handle |
Posted By: zheyi
Date Posted: 09/30/2011 at 2:49am
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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/02/2011 at 7:44pm
Mark V will be slower than the Coppa X series. It will be at least as good for spin on loops and more stable pushing. Which Coppa X are you using? And in the year and a half you've been playing, what are you doing coaching/practice? I couldn't recommend the YMLC without some sort of formal training structure to go along with it; it's a beast of a blade. Several local US1700 players (CPEN loopdriver and a 2 winged shakehander) found it too hot to handle). So if you're an up and coming junior, or someone who spends 10-20 hours a week training, you can ignore the next paragraph. Last year I watched a US1000 player who had been playing for over 5 years ditch that blade (he had Mark V FH and Coppa X3 BH) and he gained over 400 points USATT and over 200 pts in Ratings Central in the following 6 months... All this after picking a blade that was more "level appropriate" (yes, an ALL+ blade) with exactly the same rubbers. With the Applegren allplay, his return of serve was much better, and his overall control when smashing, driving and opening improved drastically. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 10/14/2011 at 4:50pm
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No, I'm not a junior but a college graduate with 14 years in the technical field as a Sr. Business Systems Analyst. The blade was recommended to me by paddle palace, but I find they will sell you anything. I do receive some group clinic training from former olympic us champion, Sean O'neil and some private lessons from a formal coach, who also advised at 1100 I ditch the ma ling soft carbon blade...I find I hit with it very similarly to my all around stiga blade with Skyline S3 rubber on the FH and Innova ultra light on the BH; both I tend to overpower some shots as I do not have a consistent forehand loop but my smashes are usually dead on. Anyway, he too advised the soft carbon is recommended more for players of 1800 level or more. He uses the Tibhar
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Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 10/14/2011 at 5:36pm
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P.S. I enjoy playing mid range to away from the table a bit more....I am a natural defender and opportunistic attacker...considering the applegren blade by Donic, but there is a V1 and V2 as well, so curious which one I could grow into more as I develop in the game...I'm currently an 1100-1200 rated player and have played a year and a half and get coaching occasionally, attend weekly one hour friday group sessions with former us olympic champion. I play between 12-20 hours a week.
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Posted By: salsaking
Date Posted: 10/14/2011 at 5:48pm
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Midge: Before you decide on your blade, why don't you just ask Sean for his recommendation? Since you see him weekly and he has a chance to see your game, I think he would be able to reco a good equipment fit for you.
I think he used to address equipment inquiries from customers for ping-pong.com before they went under. ------------- Blade: Yasaka Extra ST FH: Dawei Sprung 2.2 BH: 729 Lightening 2.2 Blade: Joola Panther ST FH: Dawei Sprung G3 2.2 BH: Dawei Inspirit 2.0 |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 10/15/2011 at 11:28am
First off, I am sorely jealous of your 12-20 hours a week. In six months, you manage more TT than I get in 2 years. At that rate, you have some great opportunities to improve. I agree with the former poster that some coaches make very good equipment recommendations, and you might run some ideas past him. The beauty of an ALL/ALL+ wood blade is that it's the best platform for development and growth, if for no other reason that, from that starting point, you can totally adjust feel/potential spin/weight balance and speed, all with rubber selection. It will start you off easily for touch shots and control, and assist in the development of confidence in looping. Many players, hitting a blistering smash or drive past their opponent, make the mistake of thinking that speed is king... And then they run into the inevitable blockers who turn their smashes and loopkills into fodder. In fact, a well placed shot is much harder for most sub US1800 opponents to return (due to various and everpresent footwork issues) and an ALL/ALL+ blade helps in that regard, as you can vary depth and placement with much greater confidence than with faster blades. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:21pm
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I sold the carbon blade as it was too fast for my level; the original blade I have is a "Saive Control" Stiga blade with DHS Skyline on FH and Stiga Innova on BH. The blade is a bit heavy for me; it isn't a bad blade, but I would like a more balanced one...Again, I'm currently an 1100 female player. I have checked with one trainer/coach but would like input from the forum too.
On playing style, I'm a very good blocker, receiver, opportunistic attacker with a much stronger forehand. Most players consistently play my backhand, which I can push, loop and block consistently but the basic stroke needs work...perhaps I'm out of position and it's more of a footwork issue, but I have been trained in the footwork, just need to be faster I guess....pitfall of being a more petite player at 5'3.
Thanks.
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Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:31pm
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P.S. My boyfriend also plays on my league is about a couple hundred points above me in rating and is a consistent attacker. He chews me out if I ever push and do not make an attack when comfortable. I told him placement is more important than speed or spin. He says to attack whether I make the table or not and now thinks he is an authority; I like to look at my opponent and see their style and adjust accordingly.
Anyway, this has been a constant argument since we both started the league about a year and a half ago.
I think I should play my strengths and develop the weaknesses, but play my game, not his.
What is your take on this argument?
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Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:32pm
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Allround Classic with Sriver FX.
BTW do you happen to live in Portland like I do? And is the club the Blitz sports bar? And is your coach Tim Aikey? |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:37pm
| Ha ha, yeah, small world. |
Posted By: cotdt
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:40pm
You should attack the ball if it pops up. It's the correct thing to do. ------------- Nittaku Resound FH: Joola Timeless BH: Joola Timeless |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:42pm
| I do attack if it pops up, that is a given, but he wants me to attack EVERY shot. |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:43pm
| Is this Mira???? The unbeknownst internet cruiser :) |
Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:55pm
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Midge, do you ever go to the Harold Streed club?
They have lots of time available for open play, andthere are usually lots of players there on mondays and saturdays in your level. Also on fridays but Im never there anymore because I have coaching at the Li Ning club downtown |
Posted By: cotdt
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:57pm
Attack only high percentage shots based on your level. ------------- Nittaku Resound FH: Joola Timeless BH: Joola Timeless |
Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 2:59pm
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I may start going there as I heard they are starting tournaments. I for some reason do not get Bruce Bailey's emails despite he has the right email for me, so I will need to check their website. I still live close to Mcminnville so Portland is a long drive for me; I'm currently looking to move back into or near Portland to save on the gas and wear and tear on my car.
I like the robot at Li Ning; not sure why they are charging a $6 day pass when Portland Table Tennis charges $4.
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Posted By: midge4673
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 3:00pm
| I agree with your response; since I've been playing his game, I've been losing and my rating is dropping. |
Posted By: Leshxa
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 11:11pm
As much as I respect coaches of Sean's caliber, I disagree with coaches recommending specific equipment. The job of a coach is to teach the player how to properly use and adjust to whatever equipment he/she is using. On this note. YMLC is a very good blade, but if it doesn't feel right - then don't pressure yourself to get used to it. I've played with almost all of the latest Yasaka blades. They are all good and vary only slightly in their feel. The biggest varience among them is what kind of rubber will be best suited for the blade - softer or harder. On that note, please consider the ratings on the blades. The control and speed ratings have a relationship among the blades. Usually the faster the blade, the less control you will have. If the blade is fast, fast smashes will be easier. I played with soft carbon a bit and it played better with harder rubbers ( Mark V and Stiga Magna felt great on it ). On softer blade - like Yasaka Mark V special edition - Mark V GPS or Mark V 30 feel fantastic. Stiffer blades like Ma Lin Extra Offensive are better off with Mark V regular. If you would like to stick with the current blade, but looking for a much more durable rubber, consider Acuda series ( preferably with thinner sponge to better suit your level ). This is a good, durable rubber that is available for 33 bucks on ttnpp.com ------------- Back to table tennis... |
Posted By: Leshxa
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 11:22pm
I urge you to look outside the hall where you train or the clinic. Seek out videos of women matches in table tennis. Look at the different way they play the game vs men. If you are really serious about the game, consider going here and reading more about it www.protabletennis.net. Look under the section titled Women's game. Men can play with power and they seek out opportunities when they can utilize their power better. Women ( especially tiny ones :) ) have problems generating power, so they stand closer to the table and use speed to score their points. Their best skills become the ability to use angles and using the incoming pace and spin of the ball for speed. So, in short, if you are a good blocker on the backhand, but do not feel comfortable opening against a push, then don't. Simple. If you are stable enough to defend the opponent's opening shot against the push - you will not ever have to worry about somebody looping hard, especially if you control the direction of the push really well. On the same note, if your opponent has super fast footwork and is able to get to your pushes and attack them consistently, then you will have to step outside your game and start attacking incoming pushes. I hope you boyfriend does not control you as much in personal life as he attempts on the table tennis court. You are correct in your thinking! Good job, keep it up. Kick your bf's butt to prove him wrong :) ------------- Back to table tennis... |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 11/19/2011 at 11:56pm
your boyfriend tells you what he thinks it is the best for you. you do not have playing level to think about playing your game. have to learn first and then thinking about playing your game. -------------  EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh);  InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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