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Do you have some specific questions that I could try to answer based on that thread? Nobody in the thread compares the stiff to the limber by the way and the general consensus is that it is somewhat between the Evo MX-P and the EL-P with a harder topsheet than the regular V01.

OK, I used Google Translate and I get this:

"Topspin: For me, as a lover of harder rubber surface very very horny!"

The German word for "horny" is also used in the sense of "awesome" which is what is meant here. I am obviously not going to translate the whole thread but if you have specific question, please ask. I have used google translator to translate stuff from French or Italian forums and I was able to least to get most of it. And yes, sometimes you do get funny expressions.  

I sent the link to my ex-girlfriend in Berlin. Here is her response:

"I have no interest in your rubbers anymore."

Johnny, as I pointed out above nobody in the German thread actually compared the V01 to the Limber so I cannot comment on that. People are saying that the V01 is between the MX-P (which is harder) and the EL-P (which is softer). The throw angle is lower than EL-P and is described as not too high but not as low as Chinese rubbers. There are no comments to spin sensitivity, however somebody mentioned that blocking was easy and serve return was easy and controlled.

I tested both the Victas V > 01 and the stiff version of it.

I think I will keep these rubbers forever.

Differences between the normal and the stiff version:

- Stiff has a bit HARDER upper layer, BUT the sponge beneath is a bit SOFTER then the normal one and the holes in the pores are a bit smaller from the stiff (this partly makes it a bit heavier rubber then the normal Victas V > 01 I guess).

- Uncut the stiff weighs 102 grams compared to 92 grams for the normal Victas V > 01

- Feeling: stiff feels bit harder then the normal one and is less bouncy

- Normal Victas V > 01 is a tad faster then the stiff one and has a bit less effect

- Throw angle of the stiff is bit lower as the normal one, medium throw angle for stiff and medium+ for the normal let's say

- The normal is almost non-tacky, the stiff is a bit tacky till almost normal tacky

What I noticed:

I play the normal Victas V > 01 in 2,0 mm on my forehand and I have the stiff in 1,8 mm on my backhand. Tested both of them on bh and fh and I concluded that the stiff is definitly more suited for backhand and the normal Victas V > 01 is more suited for fh.

Why? I can't chop with the normal victas on my backhand, quite much effect, but not such good control, with the stiff I don't have this problem and it's the perfect rubber to chop, block, smash and counterspin. The stiff on my forehand is a bit to slow to give that little extra speed in my spin balls, here the normal Victas V > 01 lays me better.

My blade is a Timo Boll ALC flared 86 grams, it is a good combi with these rubbers (very well balanced in weight).

Conclusion: I played with Tenergy 64, Xiom Omega V Europe, Sigma II Europe and Stiga Calibra LT Spin before on bh and fh, but non of them gave me so much control as these 2 Victas, the feeling I had when I spinned, smashed, doesn't matter, was just way better then every rubber I played with before. It has enough speed and spin, like any other rubber I tried before, but now I feel I just got more control with these rubbers (I know it sounds weird cause more speed is normally less control). It is just the feeling I have, I can feel the ball so good and when I play in it's just way easier to keep the ball on the table, I make way less mistakes then before ^^ I can spin, chop and smash now with the feeling that I will hit the ball on the table and without any bad feeling in control, I just play more confident with Victas and make points that I couldn't make with other rubbers. To me these 2 rubbers play a bit like Tenergy 64, except they are less heavy and are easier to control.

P.S.: I sended 2 German Victas users (of that German forum post about Victas you talked about here) both a PM with the question wich they prefer on fh and bh, they both preferred stiff on bh and the normal Victas V > 01 on fh, just like I do. Although I tested the stiff on my forehand to but it's not my kind of thing, so you should try this combination: stiff bh, normal fh.

Greetings

Steven

Will you try it or will you stay with the rubbers you got now?

Greetz

I will play with Victas V>01 Limber, max on FH and 2.0 on BH and another setup is with Tenergy 80fx rubbers.