Charlie also used hide glue for some of the carbon layer blades, but i think they he uses epoxy most of the time...the issue is that hide glue will separate if some strong tuners will go through the top ply and to the glue in between...many custom made blades will delaminate if certain tuners are used heavily and are not dry on the sponge...it has happened to a few of use with a few blades...but if they were glued with epoxy they were not affected

 

It's already in the "new product" list at tabletennis11.com

It's 213usd 20%vat inclusive for acoustic carbon. Which should be something like 175usd without vat .

They have also advertised about Goriki and Rutis power which are respectively 359usd  and 132usd vat incd.

I've been a long time Acoustic ST user, I dabble with other blades because I want a bit more power, larger sweet spot and less lateral twisting of the blade face (typical of thin 5 ply woods). Plus I want to change to a FL handle, but Acoustic is so small.......

The feel, spin generation and control of this blade always draw me back.

Thomasson, some questions for you (if you would please be so obliging in your review)

- is the handle the same size as the original

- is the Fe carbon Nittaku's version of soft carbon (looks thin to me)

- does it retain the hide glue feel as intended with the use of Fe carbon

- are the speed and flex much difference from the original

- any increase in sweet spot size

I look forward to your thoughts on this one. 

Nice weight by the way. The heavier Acoustics I have owned have been butter-like smooth and more one dimensional in their play, also lack the touch, range and clarity of the lighter/mid weight ones.

You are good at tempting person Thomasson.

From your description its quite what i dream off.

Better close and better at long. Smashing better than accoustic.

But if the handle is like the old one its killing me and my hands. LOL.

Can't wait until it will be sold on worldwide.

BTW, can you rate the speed? off? off-?

I hope it was slower than photino. I can't go faster than that.

Hopefully will hear about what was the best rubber to get it.

Would it be better to have ST handle and get a small grip at the end?

Grip tape reduced the feel. It is annoying to hear that the handle was small though.

Any news on the large size of accoustic carbon?

They should make the handle like barwell. Barwell have one of the nicest fl handle for me.

Looking forward for another review with different rubbers. Such as sigma 2 euro or  blue fire series.

By the way what is the head size?

is it another 157-150? or 156-149?

H3 NT50 (FH) 2.0 - Tenergy 80 (BH) 2.0

Shakehand Grip

Compared to : BTY Amultart FL (88gr)

(same head size 157 x 150 mm, different thickness 7.1 Amultart vs 5.5mm AC)

Head Weight : AC > Amultart

I am quite sure that Acoustic Carbon's head weight is heavier than Amultart.

BTY Amultart has much more soft feeling with some vibration when hitting the ball flat (smashes/flick) while Nittaku AC has little to no vibration. I can perform flick much better with AC than with Amultart.

Speed  & Power (flat smashes, drive, loop) : AC < Amultart

With much less same amount of power, Amultart generates a lot faster ball than AC. 

Blocking : AC < Amultart

I felt more confident in blocking with Amultart rather than AC. Also easier to do blocks (Both FH & BH) with Amultart

Looping : Tie

I see almost little to no difference in terms of how easy I can generate FH topspin with both blades. Although with BH topspin, it's a bit easier with AC.

Push : AC > Amultart

Especially close to the net pushing. Returning short backspin serves with AC is better than when I used Amultart.

Short Table Placement/Control : AC > Amultart

I placed shots close to the net better with AC and much more control/manueverability. Maybe due to AC's heavier head weight?

Summary : AC has Better control and manuever, while Amultart still excels in speed/power. Personally,  I enjoyed playing mid to far from table more with Amultart for looping/drive 

Grip wise, for now I felt that Acoustic ST handle is a better fit to my hand rather than BTY Amultart FL handle. Time will tell :)

Regarding Snakefish's question about comparing AC to Arylate TBS:

So you felt that Acoustic carbon is actually softer than BTY Arylate carbon series? 

Now I am wondering why Acoustic carbon is much harder/stiffer than ZLC carbon (like I tested with BTY Amultart ZLC).

FL, 87gr, 151 x 156 x 5.50

 

Fl handle doesn't feel as slim as 1st gen acoustic, a bit more comfy.

What stroke me at first is that it deffers from standard acoustic in size and thickness

My ST acoustic is 89gr, 151 x 154 x 5.80

see flwng pics

Carbon ply is in between limba plies like JMIzutani, Freitas and Maze, unlike Virtuoso carbon or Redshank where carbon ply is next to center core.

I will then rather compare this acoustic carbon to the three first iso the last two.

Should be able to give a first review by saturday.

 

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acoustic vs acoustic carbon :

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It is faster than maze and a tad slower than JM.

Touch and feel are fantastic !

Not head heavy. Perfect balance.Low throw angle. 

Fl handle is finally the same as original acoustic. In other words : slim.

I recommend the use if an overgrip.  Then, not a problem.

The main assset, imho, is 5.5mm thickness combined with carbon. It provides excellent feedback, but still Power and enough stiffness. No catapult effect, one gear blade. I suspect nittaku to have reduced thickness due to too much speed if keeping original specs. 

I will continue to test the blade for the next few days and then I will pass it over to a few selected french forumers. If it doesn' t take too long I plan to send it accross the atlantic to our fellow US members

 

Not at all. Rossi Emotion is still one of my favorite and certainly my number one choice if price/quality ratio involved.

I just wanted to say that Nittaku obviously took a great care making that blade and since acoustic was one of the best 5 ply blades of his time, acoustic carbon is also aimed to be one of the best 5w+2c blade for the next few years.

 

Same speed for short game, service and rallies. Some blades are very "slow" and controllable when playing pushes and drop shots and then become very fast when looping and driving (Arirang, lissom) and some always give same linear response, safe and no surprise. This one does.

Same speed for short game, service and rallies. Some blades are very "slow" and controllable when playing pushes and drop shots and then become very fast when looping and driving (Arirang, lissom) and some always give same linear response, safe and no surprise. This one does.

do you mean NAC has one speed for all shots or variable depending on the force applied?

(FH drive multiball, backspin ball FH brush-looping, backhand topspin) still using the same rubber setup (H3NT50 FH - Tenergy80 BH)

FH/BH drive medium range (not too far from the edge of the table): I still can say the vibration is little to none. Hard and stiff but yet IMO the speed is medium+, compared to BTY Amultart (which I categorized as fast+). My coach also voiced the same thing.

Note:  Haven't tried Nittaku Acoustic yet so I can't compare how big the speed increase upgrade from Acoustic to Acoustic Carbon.

FH topspin drive far-distance (about >40cm from the edge of the table) : I believe that far from table distance playstyle when using Nittaku Acoustic Carbon is to conserve power by not keep going for topspin drive - counter topspin rallies!

Great! hope to hear a quick review from you soon.. ツ

The setup is FH Nittaku Hurricane 3 Pro and BH Xiom sigma 2 Euro

This was my first time using hurricane series, let alone Nittaku rubbers.

I've only come with few composite blades on the past such as Innerforce ZLF, photino, Sardius, Gergely 21, Iolite, Schlager, and schlager light. But almost 1 year i've switched to wood blades.

In overall this was the best feel of composite blades out there that i've tried before. 

Speed was about 9/10 i think its in between IF ZLF and Photino speed range

Control was good(this is sort of biased cos I don't really now what control is because it was very subjective and hardly able to differentiate with gears)

Feel I would score 8/10 where accoustic, violin, and OSP Virtuoso would be 10.

In terms of playing

Push: I found pushing were very easy on both sides

Blocking : This setup really excels in blocking

Smashing : Its really good with this one, even better than my current setup in terms of consistency

I'm not really good at reviewing, but after around 20 blades that i've bought this one really is the best one and I will keep it for at least a year.

Speed, control and feel...

Somebody?

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try a workout rubber band to wrap it over the handle before wrapping your grip tape. stretch it tight so it grips hard on the handle, but tight enough it won't snap while you play. 

in my case, it added up more control and touch feel to the blade. the rubber band somehow added cleaner definition of the vibrations and transfers a better clarity onto my palm.. plus you can calibrate how much touch feel you want by adjusting how tight it is on the handle, and thin enough for better power transfer. then, I've used another real soft, real thin band over it so it won't be too grippy on my grip.

I highly recommend it.. definitely much better than any commercial grip tape. 

pls. see my post just ahead ... up

Specs:

You are welcome! 

Enjoy your new http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tt-blade-nittaku-acoustic-carbon" rel="nofollow - Nittaku Acoustic Carbon ! 

Looking forward to read your review.

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Finishing was done !!!  
Only the handle, not the head.

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NAC in action.
Pairing with O-V-tour / Rasant powersponge.

After few hit 

I feel that it is too thin for my-liking , but don't get me wrong it is not that flexy.

It is a thin solid blade, minimal flex still some.

Woody feel, I'm sure there is a woody feel, quite similar to the innerforce series.

A lot of feedback, little vibration.

Short game - Plenty of dwell time which gives control, not bouncy at all.
But there is is too much dwell time for short game, lacking of a speed I need, I have to swing my wrist faster than normal stroke.  But gives a good outcome for precision, and spin.

Even if it is pricey. It is a good blade which have a capability of speed and control.

You will not disappoint at all, along with my friends at the local club they gave me comment that it is a unique one, a great quality which surprise their expectation.

NAC was overlook in Thailand as it is too pricey and a 4500 Thai Baht (150 US dollar or less by bits)
People will go for a BTY or Stiga product as they are more popular and easy to sell as 2nd hand.

But when you exert power like a determined smash, drive or a counter, the ball just zips. Same thing with punches and punch blocks, the speed is there. Then you remember it is actually a carbon blade. I disagree with some earlier post that it is linear. It behaves unlike most carbon blades as it feels, plays and handles like wood at low medium powered strokes. With strong strokes it manifest the carbon speed.

All my other blades are flared, and I prefer flared blades. My NAC's handle is ST, still I was surprised that I found it very comfortable to play with. No adjustment needed.

It is a pleasure to play with. I have decided to give it a name . . . . "Wet Dream"