weight: 68 grams uncut (approx)

hardness: 45 degrees

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Maxxx-P

Weight: 65 grams uncut (approx.)

Hardness: 42.5 degrees

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As I opened the 2 rubbers I was in for a surprise of my life. I was expecting the usual different sponge topsheet combination but Joola has made a different design on these 2 rubbers in a very simple but elegant to look at. Large enough logos and names are very nice to look at. The topsheets of the 2 rubbers seem a little different from their predecessors in which the rubbers have a different texture and there is this increased quality that I have noticed. The sponge of the Rhyzm-P is different from the old Rhyzms because it is more porous. Also that the previous Rhyzms are in white and this is in orange. Maxxx-P is the opposite, the Maxxx 500 sponge sample that I have has a larger pore compared the Maxxx-P.

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I have used the Joola 3 star  celluloid ball and the DHS 40+ polyball for testing both rubbers and here are my thoughts:

Speed:

Rhyzm-P is faster than Maxxx-P by several notches. During drives and counterhitting, The speed of the Rhyzm-P is really evident when hitting through the sponge. I think Rhyzm-P is almost or in the same level of speed compared with the original Rhyzm but with a softer feel. The Maxxx-P felt faster noticeably than the previous Maxxx 450. I dunno if the cause is the topsheet but both Rhyzm-P and Maxxx-P felt harder than 45 and 42.5 degrees respectively. When I used the DHS 40+ ball on both rubbers, both have low trajectory with Rhyzm as having the lower one. I would categorize their throw as Maxxx-P low to medium throw and Rhyzm-P as low throw. Middle distance, both rubbers are good and no decrease in speed in power has been observed but far from the table the Rhyzm-P really stands out. Rhyzm has this sharp trajectory upon hitting the ball with flat hits or spin drives. Maxxx-P has an arching effect.

Spin:

Both Maxxx-P and Rhyzm-P are a notch above their previous versions. For the celluloid balls, the Maxxx-P is like a combined Maxxx 450 and 500 in spin generation. I really find the Maxxx 500 spinny in terms of looping like using a chinese rubber which is more on a brushing stroke against the ball while the Maxxx 450 is also spinny but you need to hit more through the sponge and use the sponge more also to produce spin. Both of these properties by 2 different rubbers can be found in Maxxx-P. The Rhyzm-P is not far behind in terms of spin compared to Maxxx. I thought this was just another fast rubber with more emphasis on speed and less on spin blah, blah but I was wrong and was quite surprised. This version of the Rhyzm is very spinny. The previous rhyzms are spinny but not in the level of the P version. This one seems easier to produce spin also. What made me shun away from the previous Rhyzm versions is that the 48 degree version was too fast and the others were not too spinny. I think people who love the Rhyzm 48 will love the Rhyzm-P more simply because it is spinnier, easier to produce spin and more forgiving when looping. Same goes with the Maxxx-P.

Now the question is, were they still good in spin with the DHS 40+ ball? YES! and it is a BIG YES! I tested a lot of spinny loops on all contact points and timings on the table and all I can say is that both rubbers have a very good potential in spinning the polyball. I was wondering though even if they are very spinny both arcs of the Maxxx-P and Rhyzm-P still remained low to medium only. Although my loops were spinnier when I used the Joola 3 star celluloid ball, with the DHS 40+ there are still lots of spin left but only by a very small fraction. I could still feel the difference and even the student of mine who was blocking against my loop. At least there wasn't a large loss of spin when using a polyball. The Rhyzm-P was stronger when taking the ball on the rise and peak while Maxxx-P was better when looping the ball peak and late contact. When compared to the Evolution series, I think both rubbers have more or less equal spin.

Other comparisons:

controlled blocking against attacks: Maxxx-P

active blocking or punch blocking: Rhyzm-P

smashing: Rhyzm-P

drop shots: Maxxx-P

flicks: Rhyzm-P

serves: more or less equal in spin

pushes: Maxxx-P

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So for both rubbers I give them a 2 thumbs up I am verryyyyyy impressed! Although I love the Maxxx-P more, I was more surprised and impressed with the Rhyzm-P because it felt more balanced in terms of offensive capabilities at the same time being forgiving. I guess Joola has produced their own versions of rubbers that are polyball ready. I recommend the Rhyzm-P if you hit middle to far distance from the table and Maxxx-P is you still want to spin a lot when using the new polyball. I am also expecting this to be very durable. The previous Maxxx and Rhyzm versions lasts very long and a lot of people appreciates their durability especially the Rhyzm series.

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Could you give us the weight of the Rhyzm please. 

Thanks,

Tommi

A couple of things that scare me: 

1. spinier. Rhyzm is already spiny enough for me. Its easy to make it spinier by making the topsheet grippier, but you immediately make the rubber more reactive to incoming spin. I generally think that people in search of super spiny rubbers are looking at it all wrong. 

2. lower throw. I really hope that's only because the sponge is softer. I find the throw of old rhysm fkn perfect. How low? 64 - low? That's  a bit too low for me. If its because of the sponge softness, i am sure they will release a harder sponge later. 

So where can we buy this at a reasonable price?

I´m sorry, I ment that could you let as know the weight of the Rhyzm-p! I have used at least a dozen of regular Rhyzms in past few years so I know the weight of that.

Sorry and thanks,

Tommi

Okay, now I´m ashamed. I have to start to read things through before askin question . 

I´m sorry again. Thanks for a great review!

Tommi

1. possibly because of the polyball

2. more or less like t-64

i dont know who has this in the states now maybe forum member RicharD knows, he is a connected with Joola I think.

Didn't find it either yet on most US online dealers. I found it on http://www.timtts.be/Shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_10&products_id=1316&language=en" rel="nofollow - timtt.de though and from a dealer in Germany on http://stores.ebay.com/TT2000-Shop-Tischtennisspezialist/_i.html?_nkw=rhyzm&submit=Search&_sid=936466066" rel="nofollow - ebay stores .

Good review though Yogi_bear. Thanks!

How do I make a purchase and have it shipped to US? they don't have a link where to order online.

could you PM me Alex soonest you have them? can't wait either, thanks in advance.. :D

It lacks this super sharp feel of Rhyzm that just gives you feedback about the exact plane of the paddle. I don't know how to better describe it. When you hit the ball with Rhyzm, it almost feels like  you hit the ball with no sponge at all. You have excellent feedback about the angle. 

Also, the surface/topsheet of Rhyzm is very hard. This feels super frikking soft.

This rubber is 5 times closer to Maxx than to Rhyzm. But Rhyzm was a more successful series, so they introduced P Rhyzm first. 

The throw is totally different. The bite of the ball is different. It encourages stupid brush shots, which I hate with passion. You can't just put a small angle and rip the ball forward. The mechanics of the stroke are totally different that old Rhyzm. 

Also, this Rhyzm has something like a Tenergy kick to it. It is very explosive when you engage the sponge. Uh huh, faster than old Rhyzm, AND spinier. May sound like a great rubber to some of you, but this world was already full of shitty brush stroke rubbers. Rhyzm was a fukking rock. You push forward and the ball goes forward, no jumping, no kicking, no reacting to spin. 

Alright, fine, its not really a bad rubber, expecially if your mechanics favor much brushing. But this rubber has different DNA compared to old one. And is in NOW FKKN WAY replacement for old Rhyzm. It is more of a Tenergy replacement than Rhyzm replacement.

For those of you who are currently enjoying the best in the world control of Rhyzm - hang on to your hats. It is too soon for a change.

Thanks, assiduous.  Very important review.

Also when they soft loop and I try to control loop it back, the ball just kicks too much. It has a pronounced catapult kick, maybe stronger than Maxx. 

So I found that it works best when you just firmly drive the ball forward. It still kicks, but if you powerful enough it kind of kicks in the direction that you want. The drives that DID land were definitely nastier than Rhyzm, faster and strong deflection at the table bounce. But all in all I prefer the superb control of the old Rhyzm.

All my tests were done with the old ball.

 Victas V01 - for me, it's like a better class of Acuda S1 . Doesn't give as much spin on slow strokes , none the less still a good grip . Victas perfectly shows your great features when really you will be slamming into horses , it is then wind . Very easy to play the exchanges with a lot of rotation and the accuracy of the location . If your strokes perfect and your style of play is still play to win , go with the Victas . If you are more versatile player , more easily go with the Rhyzm P . Both rubbers are very good on the front side and both can properly inflame the opponent on fire when they are in the right hands and in the right wood 

Victas V01 is not so picky and it can be put on any kind of stiffer blades and plays very well . Rhyzm P seems average and pretty tough on these blades ,but where it really comes alive and is excellent , so the wood with the top softer layer of Hinoki or spruce . Tamca Gergely , Donic Waldner and Person Champion 89 ,plays really well done ! 

PS: A week Ago he was at my friend , similar level as me . Its original setting Butterfly Jun Mizutani 2x Tenergy 05 . Now bring on the exam Waldner Champion 89 RhyzmP max both sides . When played with Mizutani ,our duels were balanced and the outcome is decided always just a few little things . Now with Waldner Champions I had no chance and it was on the level a better player . Balls with Rhzym P glide after the rebound from the table, and I had a huge problem with blocks not to mention , it came in, one after the other, even from impossible positions .

Alone friend admitted that with Rhyzm P max he plays far better than with Tenergy , because he facilitating play even late in the ball with Tenergy just to play go . With Rhyzm P you can pick up nails from the floor , literally his sentence . Waldner 89 with a higher arch are great complements with a lower Rhyzm P . Played with a plastic ball Xushaofa and Hanno .

Rhyzm-P has a 45 degree sponge, which is considerably harder than Rhyzm-Tech.

is tech or P more popular amongst your clubmates?

From German Open 2016

i saw it 2 years ago on the red side didn't pay attention to the black side