2015 New Butterfly Blades
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Topic: 2015 New Butterfly Blades
Posted By: qualizon
Subject: 2015 New Butterfly Blades
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 1:40am
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New Innerforce Layer Series (ZLC, ALC and AL) 
  New Garaydia Series, 3+2 construction, hinoki as the surface layer, special material for each of them are ZLC, ALC and Tamca 5000    New Hadraw 5 Ply All Wood Series   New Hadraw 7 Ply All Wood Series   ------------- N656 TG3 Nat Blue/H360 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66012&PID=793739" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69193&PID=839189" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 1:47am
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Man, that new logo is so fugly! We can expect higher prices, too. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 1:50am
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Just leave the rubber on when you play!! ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 2:36am
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I am still waiting for Bty to come out with a MJ SZLC cpen version! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: LethalForehand
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 4:13am
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I will be interested in the 5ply allwood blades. Wonder if their feel will be different from the usual Bty feel (more lively). |
Posted By: qualizon
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 10:17am
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I'm more interested on the Garaydia series, but it sounds more like a remake of the Amultart(ZLC) and Primorac Carbon (T5000) though ------------- N656 TG3 Nat Blue/H360 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66012&PID=793739" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69193&PID=839189" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: looneylooper
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 11:27am
| Release date? How is he innerforce layer different to the innerforce series now? looks like some of those are just a rehash of other blades that had been discontinued. |
Posted By: vivan4tt
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 11:33am
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Innerfiber seems to be like Innerforce but with Koto outer. ------------- Mizutani sZLC / T05fx / T05fx |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 1:03pm
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Hi, what is the source of these pics? Thanks. ------------- 
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Posted By: qualizon
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 1:29pm
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It is from a chinese table tennis forum. http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3574716735" rel="nofollow - http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3574716735
------------- N656 TG3 Nat Blue/H360 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66012&PID=793739" rel="nofollow - Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69193&PID=839189" rel="nofollow - For Sale |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 02/10/2015 at 5:00pm
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Nice! Hopefully they are released over here, not just in China. -------------
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Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 02/14/2015 at 4:17am
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$$$ ------------- DHS 032 Butterfly Bryce Highspeed Singapore & Canada |
Posted By: BB-Big
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 9:12am
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http://www.butterfly.tt/info/products/catalog Full catalog is out. Price is skyhigh. |
Posted By: filipo123
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 9:39am
| On the other hand: only EUR 49,90 for a nice Mazunov... |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 9:42am
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That is some serious wonga for 5-ply all-wood blades. The introduction of the new bewbs logo must have been expensive. Still, the real questions are - will BTY lift shipping restrictions, and will the Japanese retail price rise? ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: BB-Big
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 10:10am
I think the answer is the later. Price in Japan will rise! Because they want the price to be the same in all places. |
AndySmith wrote:Posted By: cheondo
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 10:12am
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Damnit. BTY blades are getting fuglier and more expensive, every time their marketing geniuses come out with a new line. I still like the old ones much better, like Boll Spirit and similar ones. Looks like they're trying to be environmentally friendly or something, like those lame Joola Greenline blades -- buying a new TT blade is NOT the time to save the world, folks.  ------------- Primorac Carbon + P7 Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70427&title=feedback-cheondo |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 10:18am
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Compare handles of Hadraw series with handles of Andro Wanokiwami blades. Regarding prices, I was afraid Butterfly is going to reduce prices outside Japan to make them equal or close to the prices in domestic market. Now, when they increased the prices in domestic market, I have no reason to be afraid of. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: cheondo
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 10:20am
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I just checked out the catalog -- a couple of new defensive blades look interesting, especially the Gionis Carbon Defensive! ------------- Primorac Carbon + P7 Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70427&title=feedback-cheondo |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 10:23am
I really like the new designs. http://gds.parkland.edu/gds/!lectures/history/1950/swiss.html" rel="nofollow - Clarity and order! Notice they stuck the new MJ SZLC handle onto the now classic MJ ZLC. But I actually like the old handle design better. -------------
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Posted By: Figueiredo81
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 10:57am
That's why I just got a backup of the older design, in sale and better looking!
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Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 11:00am
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The names of the series suck though. The interesting one is the Pro-ZLF blade - I always thought that the LSW / IF-ZLF size should reduce to 157x150 and it should be thicker for added power. Now we have it, albeit priced sky-high... ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Figueiredo81
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 11:02am
| Also, sad to see the M,Maze ALC to go... |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 11:09am
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At the end of the day things like ornamentation of the handle and the names of the blade won't matter to people who end up liking the way they play, and Btfly has an (I actually kind of like the more simple designs myself) |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/20/2015 at 11:17am
It's a lot more expensive than the LSW, and yet it's a very similar blade. It's difficult to get excited about that. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: neon
Date Posted: 03/07/2015 at 1:34pm
Outher hinoki layers in Garaydia seria is thniner than primo carbon and distance betwen carbon layers in Garaydia seria is bigger. Good luck fellows.
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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 03/07/2015 at 2:25pm
I agree Baal. I could care less about how a blade looks but how it plays. Nobody else cares how "pretty" your blade is either. Same with it's name. :) ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: bschap
Date Posted: 03/08/2015 at 4:36pm
| That blade matrix looks totally out of whack. Primorac is so close to TB ALC et al. And that Hadraw VK...Butterfly is making a new 5 ply blade that is a full category slower than the Primorac and yet more expensive? What am I missing? |
Posted By: adishorul
Date Posted: 03/08/2015 at 5:38pm
| Maybe we are not ready to "read" butterfly matrix but anyway I was puzzled seeing the clasic primorac very close to korbel sk7. Who knows.. |
Posted By: Leftyy
Date Posted: 03/09/2015 at 7:21pm
I would like some more colors and a "newer" design when the blades are so expensive as they are but yeah of course the important thing is how the blades perform, anxious to try these out! 
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Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/11/2015 at 2:05am
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can anyone clarify if "innerfiber" is just rebadged innerforce? in the catalog descriptions it seems to suggest they're the same. ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: *_strataras_*
Date Posted: 03/11/2015 at 3:05am
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kurokami my friend, ofc it is the same.If u see any of the old blade series of innerforce, on the blade font it is written the word "innerfibre".So it is the same! ------------- OSP Virtuoso SQST Tenergy 05(black 1,9mm FH) Tenergy 05(red 1,9mm BH) http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74157&title=feedback-strataras" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 03/11/2015 at 3:35am
| Actually my understanding is they're koto top. Butterfly seems to have retired their limba-ALC blades, if this is confirmed. Maybe they deemed it too mushy for poly balls. |
Posted By: mg
Date Posted: 03/11/2015 at 7:26am
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No, looks like it's the same Limba outer veneer, maybe just a redesign with the new logo. ------------- My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47297&title=mg-feedback |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 03/11/2015 at 10:04am
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New catalog is already avaliable at BTY Europe and the series name is still Innerforce. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: BB-Big
Date Posted: 03/11/2015 at 10:38am
| In the description, the new innerlayer ZLC has smaller headsize. Thickness is the same. |
Posted By: vivan4tt
Date Posted: 03/11/2015 at 11:02am
Yup it is the same, just a rebadge. Also the bad new is the price increase on their best seller : timo boll spirit. I already knew that TBS was an "issue" for butterfly because very cheap (compared to other viscaria-likle blades) and a best seller, so they can not remove such a best seller from the market so they have increased the price, again. For those who remember, when TB alc was released the price of TB alc was 99.90€, and TBS was 69.90€........not even a year after they increased the price of all TB series and TB alc (and Maze alc) by 30€ and here is again a price increase on the TBS making the entry ticket to the viscaria familly at 119.90€ now :( ------------- Mizutani sZLC / T05fx / T05fx |
Posted By: TKMP
Date Posted: 03/12/2015 at 1:07am
catalog 2015 from Japan.  |
Posted By: aroonkl
Date Posted: 05/03/2015 at 7:09pm
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When is the USA released date? I don't see BTY USA list Innerforce ZLC anymore? So they discontinue to produce/carry it. Is Inner-fiber ZLC out in Japan yet? |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 05/04/2015 at 3:31pm
For new blades that are now available in other countries, and soon to be available in North America, Butterfly NA is doing a horrible job of promoting/hyping these new blades.  They've hinted at them a few times in their email blasts but that's about it.Check on their website. They keep changing the date of availability, but I'm guessing the new blades should be coming in with one of their re-stock shipments towards the end of May. If I were them, I would be HYPING THESE BLADES UP!!! COMING SOON SOON SOON Soon soon!!!!!!!!!..... -------------
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Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 05/05/2015 at 10:34am
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http://www.butterfly.co.jp/2015blades/
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Posted By: acid
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 4:15am
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i don't know about you guys ! But lately Butterfly doesn't make any blade that can make me go "WOW, I HAVE TO GET THAT BLADE" . They sure know how to raise their price though ! ------------- if Life is short, play Ping Pong to make it longer :P |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 1:56pm
What blade is in the second pic?
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 1:58pm
No one should make a blade that makes you go wow unless you are an EJ. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: in2spin
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 3:53pm
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hadraw sr? :)
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Posted By: Leftyy
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 3:53pm
I can agree with that a bit, can be because they have so many blades now with pretty much the same names so it's hard to find one that is unique and like you wrote get that wow feeling. It's also hard to choose one since I don't have afford to try so many out.
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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 05/06/2015 at 7:15pm
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I have learned through the decades that if you find a certain model of BTY blade that you love buy 3-4 of them! Sure as hell BTY will discontinue it's production. So many fantastic blades gone forever...stupid BTY. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 05/07/2015 at 11:48am
so many blades so many missed out chances to try them. I kid.  ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 05/16/2015 at 11:43am
interesting....no more serial number on the surface of the made in japan blades? 
de.butterfly.tt/tischtennis-hoelzer/innerforce-alc.html de.butterfly.tt/tischtennis-hoelzer/innerforce-layer-alc.html ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: Vlad0
Date Posted: 05/16/2015 at 11:59am
| The blade i'am waiting for is still not invented. What a poor imagination. Even handles of the "new" innerfiber are the same - stupid rounded and thin. |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 05/16/2015 at 12:08pm
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www.dpin100.com/goods-4886.html
here i see the serial number but in the german butterfly homepage not the hadraw blades are quite interesting expecially the VR one  i want it
 ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: BB-Big
Date Posted: 05/16/2015 at 12:53pm
| I already own 2 of the new Hadraw VR blades. One bought from Japan and the other one from local supplier. Both of them have serial number. |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 05/16/2015 at 12:55pm
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can you put a review of the blade? ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: BB-Big
Date Posted: 05/16/2015 at 9:32pm
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I only played 1 session with Hadraw VR. I paired it with the max MX-P and HMP-beta(thick). Blade weight 92 g. Total weight 185-186 g. (MXP is too heavy) Its structure is very similar to Stiga hardwood blades except the Wenge outer plies. It would be nice to directly compare it with the Stiga Emerald VPS. Blade face seems great. Polished, smooth and easy to glue. Handle is smaller than the Emerald. It is made by using simple wood that looks like a raw handmade blade. Emerald or Darker handles are more beautiful and more polish. It is fast for 5-ply all wood blade. More solid and less vibration than the Emerald. I cannot say much on its playing characteristic at this time. All i can say is I have a lot of fun playing with it. Can't wait to play with it again next week. |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 05/17/2015 at 4:39am
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Thants a lot i don't like so much the new hardwood Stiga blades but i liked so much the HHao II blade that should be similar, except for Koto instead of Wenge ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 05/18/2015 at 4:02pm
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does BTY have any egg/drop shape blades? ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: Gerard_Taboada
Date Posted: 05/20/2015 at 4:52pm
| Does anyone know if the new " Timo Boll Offensive" is still OFF- like the old one? There is no info anywhere about its category. |
Posted By: Immortar
Date Posted: 01/09/2016 at 11:19pm
| Is it worth the price then?? |
Posted By: osmar92
Date Posted: 01/28/2016 at 4:47pm
| Is it a mistake OFF- for Hadraw VR, it has better reaction time and vibration vs, for example, t Korbel which rated OFF!? |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 04/14/2016 at 4:16pm
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Anyone tried any of the Hadraw blades in depth yet? ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: obesechopper
Date Posted: 04/14/2016 at 11:45pm
I've got the SR and SK so far. I plan on getting the V series as well, if that tells you anything! Very nice grips, wonderful appearance to the entire blade. Top notch butterfly quality. Playing wise... the SR is pretty stiff and solid. Softer than a Mazunov. Close to the Tibhar Samsonov Black Edition. Similar to the Ebenholz 7 in feel, though a bit softer still. Not as stiff as a Timo Boll W7. Harder/stiffer than the Liu Shiwen by far. Better feel than an Axelo, and higher dwell time. I'll throw out a bunch of blades here in case anyone has used any of them to compare, rather than "it's hard". The SK is basically the same, but with more control and a bit less speed. I prefer it over the SR for all-round play. The SK has a softer, 'noob-friendly' appeal. Maybe ALL+ in speed or so. More forgiving, with a strong jack of all trades vibe (leaning toward offensive play). While the SR seems more specialized for something like an Oh Sang Eun style of play, block oriented but still with enough feeling to loop when needed. If you like to loop more than drive/hit/block, then I don't think you'd enjoy the SR all that much -- unless you happen to prefer stiffer blades. My SR weighed in at 96 grams, so it is a bit heavier than the SK. Backhand flips/flicks all work VERY nicely on either blade. The SK works better for chopping as it isn't quite as stiff. Still, neither is overly chop friendly in comparison to something like a Defplay senso. I've got about 18 blades in my arsenal, and the hadraws are easily in the top 3. The handles are very smooth... perhaps too smooth for some! Once you get a bit of sweat going, they stick in nicely. I imagine the V series is similar, though a bit slower/flexier given the 5 ply. I myself prefer the sturdy feeling resulting from 7 ply blades.
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Posted By: Vlad0
Date Posted: 04/15/2016 at 2:53am
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The new Kenta blade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLt_2eWLOWU What he is talking about ------------- TB ALC 86gr + D09c/T05 |
no subs? Looks like the handle is thinner, but this interesting "thing" - some weight maybe like a balancer is interesting. Any way i'm waiting Freitas to introduce his blade.Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 04/15/2016 at 5:39am
I have VR. very nice blade |
Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 04/25/2016 at 1:38pm
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Hello, today i bought two new Butterfly blades: Innerforce ALC Layer FL 90g  After long time playing Viscaria is time to find out a more feeling blade Hier some pictures      Regards Carmelo ------------- Tibhar MX-P 50 Max| BTY Boll ALC FL | Tibhar MX-S Max an Italian playing TT in Germany |
Posted By: victorm
Date Posted: 04/25/2016 at 7:51pm
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Great looking blades!! |