change blade from viscaria for plastic ball
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Topic: change blade from viscaria for plastic ball
Posted By: kurokami
Subject: change blade from viscaria for plastic ball
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:22am
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I noticed a number of pros going to slightly slower equipment and i'm considering going to all-wood for increased control. I have less time to play now and fitness isn't what it used to be.
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Posted By: NoRema
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:34am
most of the vote choices aren't all wood though  ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70289&title=feedback-norema" rel="nofollow">  Click the picture for feedback ^ |
Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:44am
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yea i don't know much all-wood choices. my 2nd blade was composite. vis is my 3rd. i was reading more reviews and other nittaku (i like) suggestions were runlox, ludeack, adelie ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: The soul of rock
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:47am
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You may also consider the Stiga Rosewood XO. It's a tad slower than Viscaria but with better control. They feel cpose as well. ------------- Viscaria FL FH: Nittaku Hurricane 3 NEO BH: Tenergy 05 ------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69322&PID=841245" rel="nofollow - My feedback |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 12:06pm
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Perhaps you could go to slower rubber. |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 12:06pm
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Rosewood is always a good option, just so dang overpriced. I really liked Ludeack when I played it if you like nittaku. The headsize is a little weird though so if you have some viscaria cut rubbers they won't likely fit. It's wider than standard. But it's nice feeling. A little slower than Clipper, but good feel/control and still plenty fast. I would recommend lightly sealing it with something if you get it. I don't remember why I sold the thing. I think i just got a clipper CR instead. I always hear good things about runlox, but if I buy nittaku i usually like to stick to the japanese made stuff because the quality is so great, and runlox isn't japanese made.
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Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 12:10pm
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Stratus Powerwood not on your list but should be. |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 12:11pm
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Runlox is no longer available. AVX P500 is the same so a player can still get one. Correct me if I am wrong but I didn't see Runlox on the Nittaku website. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: roypnoy
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 12:30pm
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Posted By: The soul of rock
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 1:03pm
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I agree that higher end Stiga blades are way overpriced, but if money is no object, the the Rosewood XO is probably the best all wood alternative for the Viscaria. ------------- Viscaria FL FH: Nittaku Hurricane 3 NEO BH: Tenergy 05 ------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69322&PID=841245" rel="nofollow - My feedback |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 1:11pm
| Nexy Calix. More control in the short game, same power when looping or smashing, arguably better feel. |
Posted By: NoRema
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 1:32pm
+1 Calix is very thin so it has an all wood feeling but it still has a thin layer of carbon so you can extract the power needed from the blade. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70289&title=feedback-norema" rel="nofollow"> Click the picture for feedback ^ |
vvk1 wrote:Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 1:39pm
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Don't go too slow (like low OFF- or ALL+) so soon and don't buy expensive all-wood blades. Suggestion:
Clipper fills in all of the above boxes without too much of a burden on your wallet. PM me if you want a good deal on a 1-day old 86g Clipper Wood (Legend FL). My take: if that blade was good for many in the CNT (past or present), it is good enough for you. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Roger Stillabower
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 3:26pm
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Try a Stiga Offensive Classic Carbon, I think it is a very underrated blade that is very reasonable on price. ------------- Shifter |
Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:28pm
yea i was really considering Clipper CR. i'm about to make a tt11 order though and last time you said barwell was your favorite so i was thinking of getting that. however, i checked nittaku players and they all migrated from bf to acoustic. ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:35pm
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so you notice pro's now use slower blades for this new slower ball, how interesting ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:56pm
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yes bc slower ball properties ppl just hit harder. however, compensating for spin, ppl are moving to higher throw and slightly slower blades in general with few exception ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: NoRema
Date Posted: 03/24/2015 at 11:57pm
he said he doesn't play as much and fitness isn't what it used to be. That's the primary reason for switching, he needs control. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70289&title=feedback-norema" rel="nofollow"> Click the picture for feedback ^ |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 12:04am
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yes you know, when reading it looked like the third reason? Im just thinking out loud but will a slower blade make people move better just joshing ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: vic#74
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 12:13am
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Emmm....my fit is not a cake too so I was planning to move for a faster blade from Viscaria....may be Carbonado 190 or Nexy 4th wave....I can't hit harder than I can. And it's not enough w/ plastic ball. And I dont like Tenergy w/ plastic They multiplied my EJ result by zero with that innovation. ------------- ITC Premier XR Nittaku Sieger Pk50 Tibhar Evolution EL-S |
Posted By: NoRema
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 12:14am
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a slower blade will mean he wont have to move to position to do the "perfect stroke" it allows more room for error. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70289&title=feedback-norema" rel="nofollow"> Click the picture for feedback ^ |
Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 12:49am
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JM, it's faster than Viscaria and a bit more high-throw ------------- There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market. Falco is not a booster |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 3:06am
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I haven't tried Barwell nor Yasaka Extra Special, but these two look similar. YES is a bit thinner, like the old Clipper with walnut surface layers and three times cheaper than Barwell (YES is currently on sale at TT11, costs 30eur). ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: john18
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 5:30am
Sayaka Hirano said herself she moved from Rosewood V to Clipper CR - WRB because of the new ball. |
Posted By: patrick1v
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 5:35am
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why not an osp blade; virtuoso or virtuoso+ lots of reviews on these to blades on this website also tt11 have these for a really good price. |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 9:01am
I played BF with celluloid. Limba outers have better grip than Walnut. I personally would emphasize good grip for playing with the plastic ball (so, Limba outers in blades and rubbers like Chinese or MX-P or Rakza X on FH). I wasn't talking about Clipper CR (which is much faster at the table and more for hitting relative to the Clipper). I'm not a big fan of that UV finish on the CR. I think it is more for close to the table, women's style of play. You mean that the men's players have migrated to the Acoustic? I find that a bit odd (from what I know of the blade). Are you talking about the Japanese national team here? ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 9:08am
$86 for slow wood blade? something like P700, Rutis, Stradivarius, would be cheaper and better |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 12:29pm
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Heck, I'm bout to go to a faster blade >:D -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: patrick1v
Date Posted: 03/25/2015 at 6:15pm
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played with the strad and the p700 i much perferred the v+ and v- and they are not slow as you make them out to be.those other blades are stiff with less flex and feedback.i have no prob looping hard with these blades.like i said just read the reviews.also for a bit more speed the ultimate would be the one.even though i find the v+ plenty fast. |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 03/27/2015 at 6:14pm
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Not all wood but you should consider stradavarius. Its lighter weight compared to vis. Some have said its a touch faster. Its super controllable. IMO Slower equipment isnt the way to go. The plastic ball is made to slow the game down in the first place. We should try and go for faster equipment haha. ------------- "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/28/2015 at 9:45pm
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update: idk what it is. this week i made an effort to play almost every day. viscaria felt easy to control again. anyway... not so much needing it to be slower, but more grip and higher throw. i'm still interested in barwell. someone said mizutani has higher throw and easier control than viscaria despite being faster? since i already have mj, should i get barwell or are they so similar it's not worth buying another blade? ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 03/28/2015 at 10:00pm
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Viscaria has higher throw & better control than MJ. MJ has better grip (limba) & short game, is more powerfuland is better for serve / receive. Not sure if you're interested in Barwell or Barwell Fleet but both are pretty different from MJ. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 03/29/2015 at 5:38am
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Interesting comments about moving to a slower blade. I have noticed a
resurgence of Stiga wood blades. But it could be because of good
marketing. Other thing I noticed, was a drop in the number of users using Tenergy. Most players say it was to reduce cost. The elite still use their TBS + Tenergy or similar. ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: Leftyy
Date Posted: 03/29/2015 at 5:15pm
I have heard some people complaining that Tenergy don't work as good with the new ball as the celluloid, I did not noticed any big different myself compared to other rubbers when I tried it but that is also maybe a factor.
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Posted By: Leftyy
Date Posted: 03/29/2015 at 5:16pm
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Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/29/2015 at 11:57pm
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on a side note, no wonder i felt mizutani similar to a heavy viscaria. checking blade composition, they're both basically limba - kiri - limba with composites. (for the most part, i don't think soft koto top plies on vis do much except for touch shots.) ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: GSOM_GSOM11
Date Posted: 04/22/2015 at 8:19pm
| Barwell is a VERY picky thing for bh rubbers. It has a short, but powerful flex when you add power. When it adds up to the rubber`s own catapult, you get an uncontrollable cannon. Tenergy is not an option for Barwell, such a combo is very hard to control. Maybe Evolution EL-P, or Airoc M, or smth with even less catapult. T88-I is good, if you can handle those damn large pips. If there was a T88-I with smaller pips, it would be perfect. |
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 04/22/2015 at 8:30pm
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Perhaps a MJ SZLC? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |