Adidas Protex D20 & D30 Blades
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Topic: Adidas Protex D20 & D30 Blades
Posted By: yogi_bear
Subject: Adidas Protex D20 & D30 Blades
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 9:00am
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ADIDAS PROTEX D20 AND D30 BLADES http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cjtm77/media/Adidas%202014/20150411_122647_HDR_zpsrye2wtxv.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Adidas Protex D30 Blade Weight: 88 grams Head Size: 150x156mm Plies: 7 (fineline top plies + bluetex material) Hardness: Stiff Speed: OFF+ http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cjtm77/media/Adidas%202014/20150411_122635_HDR_zpsmxynucjg.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Adidas Protex D20 Blade Weight: 88 grams Head Size: 150x156mm Plies: 7 (limba top plies + bluetex material) Hardness: Medium Stiff Speed: OFF http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cjtm77/media/Adidas%202014/20150411_121933_HDR%20-%20Copy_zpsr52lsupr.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Sorry it took me so long to post my reviews. I was playing with these 2 blades for 2 weeks in total. I have been testing these 2 blades extensively as these blades are firsts of their kind within the brand. As expected, the quality of the 2 blades are nothing short but excellent. Adidas has painstakingly made sure that like the previous blades (hypertouch, radix series), the Protex blades have also very good quality. I am confident to say that Adidas blades are in the top when it comes to handle comfort. The handles are very smooth to the hands but not slippery.The blade surfaces of the 2 blades are also smooth. I was kinda disappointed because they covered the sides of the blades because the plies themselves give beauty to the look of a blade when they are glued with rubbers. I can't blame Adidas for this because they are trying to protect the composition of their blades for this series unless one buys a blade and dissects the blade cross sectionally in order to know the exact composition. Now about the blue texalium or what Adidas calls the bluetex (I am assuming this is texalium), a material combination of fiberglass and aluminum. People say that carbon fiber is lighter and still stronger than texalium. I tested the baldes using Tenzone Ultra SF DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial and P7 rubbers. Hardness: On a bare blade bounce test with a ball, the D30 has a higher pitch than the D20. When hitting your finger against the 2 blades, the D30 felt stiffer. The D20 cannot be considered soft or medium but mildly stiff. It has some flex but it feels semi hard. The hardness and feel of the D20 compared to other blades: D20>Adidas Hypertouch D20<Primorac Carbon D20=Tibhar Samsonov Pro Black Edition (more or less) D20> Stiga Clipper Wood D20<ALC The D30 is harder than the 2 Carbonado blades but still softer than a Schlager Carbon or Primorac Carbon blade. Speed: The D30 is a speedy blade. It was very bouncy in the sense that it almost feels like a carbon blade when smashing or loop driving but feels less hard. The D30 clearly outshines the D20 in the smashing and driving departments but the D20 is more friendly and forgiving. The D30 is as fast as a primorac carbon and sometimes faster but doesn't feel hard and has better ball feedback. The D30 is a medium to far distance from the table because of its long trajectory whereas the D20 is more on the middle to close to the table distance. Looping: The D20 is a great looping blade and balanced in terms of speed but its biggest asset is its ability for spinning either fast spin attacks or slow controlled looping. The D20 has a medium to high arc. I love the D20 because the limba gives a good feel to the hand when looping and at the same time it isn't to stiff. The blade has some flex which aids greatly in looping. The D30 is stiff and topspin shots that hit through the sponge and wood suits it more. The D30 has a low to medium arc when looping the ball but it has a longer trajectory. http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cjtm77/media/Adidas%202014/20150411_122034_HDR_zpsi3fgummc.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Short game: Both are very good in teh short game. Even the D30 being a fast and hard blade, I didn't have any problems controlling my dropshots or flick strokes. The D20 feels better on serves and spinny pushes than the D30 http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cjtm77/media/Adidas%202014/20150411_121903_HDR_zps0zbrpo3y.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Overall Impression: The Protex D30 gives a hard, solid and fast attack on your shots. It is impressive when you rely mostly on speed and power. Ideal rubbers for these are medium to medium soft rubbers to balance its stiff surface. Both blades feel very different from the Liping Ktex. The Ktex felt nothign special to me. It is medium fast has control but nothing more. The Joola Kool which is a thicker and lighter blade is truly fast but compared to the D30, the Joola Kool has this hollow feeling when hitting the ball. Sometimes the balsa core gives a limit on the power you can hit the ball with. With the D30, at a thinner blade thickness, you can hit the ball faster and better. The Protex D20 on the other hand is my favorite. I couldn't let it go and until now I still have the blade with me. The D20 is a good substitute for a viscaria or tb alc if you spin a lot or brush a lot on your strokes. I felt it was really good to spin when I used the 2 Adidas rubbers and much even better when I used the Provincial Hurricane 3 rubber. So I feel in love with the D20 it's not too fast and has this slight woody feeling which I am always looking for in a blade. http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cjtm77/media/Adidas%202014/20150411_122011_HDR%20-%20Copy_zpse2m0rrio.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 9:00am
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reviews to follow ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Blake
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 11:55am
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Thanks for all your reviews on this stuff, super helpful! Waiting excitedly for your pending review ------------- BTY Primorac FH: Sriver 1.9 BH: Sriver 1.9 Taming a new beast... Vega Pro FH: Rasant Grip Max BH: Tenzone Ultra SF Max |
Posted By: viva
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 12:18pm
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Cool pics, not a big fan of them painting the edges. ------------- My trade feedback here: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40170&title=viva-buy-sell-feedback |
Posted By: Bran
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 12:38pm
| I suspect they're not just painting them, but have them covered with a layer of protective wood, a bit like Nittaku's edge guard on some blades, like the Kiley. It doesn't look like the plies are exposed. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 1:12pm
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Boo to edge banding. Yay in advance for the reviews! Tell adidas to send you some e-razor too. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 1:43pm
| looks terrible |
Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 1:57pm
The edge paintover reminds me of the Andro blades. Can't see the individual plies  ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: Leftyy
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 3:30pm
| I dont like the look that much but really wants to try out some Adidas blades sometime. How are the quality compared to Butterfly? |
Posted By: Crowsfeather
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 10:09pm
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I just wonder, PROTEX, are they off or def blades ? PROTEX sounds like defensive name. ------------- I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud . |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/12/2015 at 10:39pm
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These are off blades to off+. The quality is top notch and the handles are one of the most.comfortabe among other brands. Yes the edges are covered so i can only tell the top plies. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: Crowsfeather
Date Posted: 04/13/2015 at 12:22am
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PROTEX D20 might have similarity of Mmaze and Fibertech power but with new fiber reinforcement ? I assumed...... Looking forward to you review.  ------------- I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud . |
Posted By: JaSports
Date Posted: 04/13/2015 at 10:57am
| need to know top ply of D30 blade. this should be interesting.. |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/13/2015 at 11:09am
I'm going with fineline for the D30 and ayous or limba for the D20.
------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
JaSports wrote:Posted By: Figueiredo81
Date Posted: 04/17/2015 at 5:28am
| Waiting on review... Protex D20 seems nice, I'm a Limba addict I must confess. |
Posted By: dajdosta
Date Posted: 04/17/2015 at 6:33am
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Head shape looks unusual. It looks short and wide to me. If that is the case then I am very interested because these should be balanced toward handle. Anybody knows the price?
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/17/2015 at 6:44am
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I think the D30 is €100, and the D20 is €90. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/17/2015 at 6:58am
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Ill be posting the reviews in a day or 2. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/28/2015 at 5:05am
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updated with reviews ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/28/2015 at 5:43am
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I really like the look of the D20. Yogi, how fast is it when compared to the Hypertouch? ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/28/2015 at 6:19am
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D20 is faster by a small margin and harder too eventhough Hypertouch's outer ply is koto ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/28/2015 at 6:38am
Thanks yogi! That RX-Carbon in the Hypertouch is a crazy, wonderful thing. ------------- This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated. |
Posted By: JaSports
Date Posted: 04/29/2015 at 11:50pm
| couldn't agree more with Andy. rx-carbon along with Koto was a superb feeling. this will be a long romance. |
Posted By: vic#74
Date Posted: 04/30/2015 at 4:50am
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After reading I got an impression - this pair of blades is seemingly close to Carbonado's blades. Am I right ? ------------- ITC Premier XR Nittaku Sieger Pk50 Tibhar Evolution EL-S |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/30/2015 at 5:49am
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No they are not. They have different feel and they have slightly higher throw than the carbonados ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: vic#74
Date Posted: 04/30/2015 at 8:41am
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What are the differencies in feel of those blades ? How do their feel compare to ALC or ZLC or ZL feel ? I mean both Carbonado's and Protexes blades. Thanks.
------------- ITC Premier XR Nittaku Sieger Pk50 Tibhar Evolution EL-S |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/30/2015 at 8:25pm
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wow that's a lot to answer. D30 is faster than the ALC but slower than an MJ ZL. same thing as the carbonados. D30 is harder than an ALC, hardness is between an ALC or ZL. D20 feels softer. ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: BarryB
Date Posted: 08/12/2015 at 10:29am
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Yogi, I'm currently playing with the Hypertouch which I really like but I can still feel it's a carbon blade and not an all wood. How does it compare to the Protex D20 an Acculum High Speed 5 in terms of playing characteristics/feel. You mentioned the D20 felt a bit harder despite the limba outer ply, but can you elaborate a little bit more? Hoping to find a nice deal when Adidas is stopping its tabletennis business. |
Posted By: Blake
Date Posted: 08/12/2015 at 12:27pm
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Addidas is calling it quits? ------------- BTY Primorac FH: Sriver 1.9 BH: Sriver 1.9 Taming a new beast... Vega Pro FH: Rasant Grip Max BH: Tenzone Ultra SF Max |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 08/12/2015 at 9:24pm
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Thank you yogi for all your fine reviews and effort!  Interesting blades, not crazy about the look but I'm sure they play fine.------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: _maddic
Date Posted: 08/13/2015 at 8:15am
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is there any online shop(non-eu) selling this for a decent price ? can't seem to find it on any of the japan online stores. thinking of getting this as a collector's piece |