Rubber Protector Sheet Ruined my Rubber!
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Topic: Rubber Protector Sheet Ruined my Rubber!
Posted By: Uskglass
Subject: Rubber Protector Sheet Ruined my Rubber!
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 12:01am
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I use DHS TG3 Neo on my forehand and since this is a tacky rubber I always clean it with a bit of water and a soft sponge after use and put a rubber protection plastic film on there. Today I pulled up the film and saw that a 1" piece of the topsheet towards the center had pulled up from the sponge and now I had a big bubble on there. The rubber now has a big deal spot in it where the bubble is and I have to replace it. It's a bummer because usually TG3 lasts a long time, any way to avoid this happening in the future?
------------- Yinhe Earth.3 - DHS TG3 Neo/729 Aurora |
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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 12:30am
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The problem is not the protection sheet, it's the rubber sheet that's not glued well enough together. Although not using protection sheet may help, the top-sheet will dry out more quickly, so it will lose it's grip more quickly. Since the bond between topsheet must already be weak, it would probably be just a matter of time before it came lose thought playing anyway. Not a lot you can do about really...just hope the next sheet is better glued together. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 1:44am
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On another note, cleaning your rubber with a sponge isn't necessary and is a good way to deteriorate the top surface of the rubber. I cringe when I see people "cleaning" their rubbers this way and I can often tell they do by looking at the rubber. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 2:10am
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BTW was this an adhesive protective sheet? Because those should only be used on non-tacky rubbers. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 2:29am
That's just a myth. I've been using adhesive protective sheets on DHS H3 Neo for more than a year now. There is no observable detrimental effect on H3's tackiness, on the contrary, using the adhesive sheet between matches removes a lost of dust from the rubber. |
the_theologian wrote:Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 5:05am
Just a counterpoint to this - I ruined a sheet of Skyline with an adhesive protector some years ago. Put the sheet on for the first time after a match, came back to it a few days later and removing the sheet resulted in the sticky layer being left behind on the topsheet of the Skyline. So the protector ended up totally non-sticky, and the Skyline topsheet was a gummy sticky mush which was impossible to clean off. I know the Skyline topsheet has changed in recent years, and not all protector sheets are the same. vvk1 has had a good experience, which is nice, but I would still advise caution.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 6:56am
Good point - the type of protective sheet could very well make a difference. I've used Yasaka and Donic Formula rubber protection sheets (purchased from globaltabletennis.com). |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 7:41am
Hmmm, yeah. Mine was a KTL one.
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Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 8:49am
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Was the rubber boosted? Im putting my tg3 back on today. I have both plastic protectors and sticky protectors xiom made. The plastic protectors work great on the sticky surface (this thing got pretty sticky as i left it in a ziplock bag, picked up a tupperwear with only partial contact, im sure itll hold up a ball like Wang Liqin did in that video lol) perhaps if it was boosted, the stretch on the sponge would lead to stress on topsheet, hence resulting in an unfortunate event. Perhaps I will just use waxed paper instead of actual plastic protector to be safe. -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 9:49am
either it is a bad glue job or a bad TG3 - rubber protector is not to blame.
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Posted By: Victor_the_cleaner
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 10:04am
| no, blame the rubber protector! I am certain that rubber 'protectors' ruin hundreds of rubbers every year, maybe more. Clean your rubber and put it in a case. No need to stick a poop to the surface. I got all kinds of weird things happening to my rubbers with these 'protectors', even if rubber is completely dry when you put the 'protector' , the 'protector' still manages to screw it up with some kind of bubbles. |
Posted By: heavyforehand
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 10:39am
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So it is bad to use a sponge with water? I did not know this. I have a Nittaku sponge I use with water all the time and I have Donic protectors I put on after. I guess I am still confused on the best way to keep the rubber clean as I hear using water and your hand is bad because of oils from the hand. ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive (86 grams) FH : Joola Rhyzm Max BH : Joola Rhyzm Max Weight - 186 grams |
Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 10:42am
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I see no reason that a non-tacky plastic sheet wouldn't be better than open air. Cases aren't really airtight. ------------- Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b Please let me know if I can be of assistance. |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 10:42am
A few drops of revolution cleaner, squigi with your hand. Air dry. Nothing more. 2ND choice would be donic bioclean. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Uskglass
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 11:13am
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To confirm this was one of those non-adhesive plastic rubber sheets like EachEng gives out free with new rubbers. Rubber is non-boosted. I had been cleaning the rubber after each session by lightly wiping with a slight damp sponge and then waving it dry. Ping Skills and others have recommended this method and it's always worked well for other rubbers. I suppose it's possible that the topsheet was just poorly glued and it was inevitable but I'm pretty wary of using rubber protectors again. Is it bad to keep a tacky rubber like this free in the bat case?
------------- Yinhe Earth.3 - DHS TG3 Neo/729 Aurora |
Posted By: Crowsfeather
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 11:20am
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lot's of Asian player use their sweat to clean Chinese rubber and it is great. You should try. ------------- I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud . |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 11:57am
I heard it was good for the same reason. I use the water and hand anyways - works good for me and saves money. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 12:09pm
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Its the poor quality control on DHS chinese rubbers again. I use wet paper towels to clean my rubbers and store into a ziplock bag after air dried. no issues so far. ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 12:41pm
In fact, I know a lot of asian players use this to clean their tacky Chinese rubbers (rubbers will spinner )  Then, I find this two are good for cleaning non-tacky rubbers   ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 12:56pm
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I like Egghead's suggestion, I think not only it works - the rubber will smell good too. ================== One of our club members who doesn't buy any rubber cleaner nor use water. He "spits" (saliva) on his rubber and then uses his hand to wipe it dry. He said that's the best. (I don't recommend this. Hope they come up with a rule to make this illegal.) ------------- skip3119 |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 1:03pm
he must STANK! stay the heck away from him and his paddle/ball contacts ------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: ahsq
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 1:08pm
http://www.homedepot.com/s/natural%2520all%2520purpose%2520cleaner?NCNI-5 all these products should be great too? I searched "Natural all purpose cleaner"
------------- FS: Xiom Vega Pro ST 85 grams $80 shipped Donic Waldner Senso Carbo JO shaped ST $40 shipped |
Posted By: Chicobo
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 1:17pm
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For hand method, do you use palm or fingers? ------------- Stiga Genesis x2 on Nexy Rubicon Galaxy Moon/Air Illumina Alpha on Andro Temper Tech Off- USATT 1620...Learning to play vs long pips |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 8:13pm
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Cleaning tacky rubber with water and a sponge works perfectly well and is quite safe, I've been doing that for 20+ years, and I get more life out of them than anyone I know. Just don't leave the rubber wet, use just a moist sponge and wipe it down. I can also assure anyone that a plastic (non-adhesive) protection sheets WILL add life-time to a tacky rubber. If you let the rubber dry after cleaning, then squeeze the protection sheet on, the tack will be considerably higher than if you just left it in a case. I've compared this numerous times, as I sometimes forget to put the protection sheet on after cleaning, and the effect is quite noticeble. I would not recommend you use an adhesive protection sheet on a tacky rubber. It's not that it does not work, but it puts a lot of stress on the topsheet-sponge bond when removing, so you are more likely to dislodge the topsheet and get bubbles. ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 10/09/2015 at 9:59pm
Agree w you haggisv. Water and sponge cause no problems with the top sheet of all chinese rubbers I have ever used. I think the OPs problem is a bubble from bad QC of DHS. |
Posted By: heavyforehand
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 11:35am
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I put a Donic protector on one of the chinese rubbers on my backup blade (friendship 729) and when I pulled it off today there is writing from the protector sticking on the rubber. I use a sponge to clean and I dry the rubber as well. Any reason for concern? ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive (86 grams) FH : Joola Rhyzm Max BH : Joola Rhyzm Max Weight - 186 grams |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 12:21pm
The Donic rubber protectors are the worst for this. If you ever make a mistake and put a sticky side to the print side, it transfers easily and will be on your rubber soon. Toss Donic rubber protectors in the trash. The transferred paint can be cleaned off the rubber, but it's a chore. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: heavyforehand
Date Posted: 10/13/2015 at 1:13pm
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dammit! ok, thanks I had no idea. I thought they were supposed to be this way. ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive (86 grams) FH : Joola Rhyzm Max BH : Joola Rhyzm Max Weight - 186 grams |