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Topic: Cpen blade brands
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Subject: Cpen blade brands
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 9:48am
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It seems like the manufacturer make a ton of difference when it comes to buying a penhold blade, despite the built quality. For example, YEO Cpen is immensely popular than its shakehand version, some say that the shakehand just suck. I own a Joola Rossi Emotion Cpen and despite an excellent built quality, it just doesn't feel right. The head size is smaller than regular, not something you'd want in a cpen blade. So, which manufacturers make the best cpen blades? I can see that DHS, Yasaka and Nittaku are some. I'd like to hear a few opinions. ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
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Posted By: gnopgnipster
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 10:33am
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I make a c-pen in wood/arylate. The Valor FB- 515. I would put this blade up against any that have been mentioned so far. ------------- Hardbat: Valor Champion/FH/BH-Valor Premier-OX Regular:Valor Big Stick FH-Apollo II & BH-Globe 979 OX |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 10:46am
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First of all, I don't think YEO shakehand sucks. It is very well reviewed here on MyTT. About Cpens, the most used by Pros is Stiga, Yasaka, DHS.. Some brands just put a shorter handle on shakehand blades, so they feel unbalanced with wrong sizes and proportions. It could be the case of your Joola Cpen. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 12:29pm
Any idea about xiom cpens? Do they have the same "only shorter handle" difference than shakehand? ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
AMonteiro wrote:Posted By: khmd
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 12:41pm
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If you have a small hand, Stiga's CPen is not recommended since it is too thick to hold it comfortably. DHS, Yasaka, Avalox, Nittaku, and Butterfly handles are comfortable for small hand person. don't know xiom's. |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 12:47pm
Xiom Cpens are: 159mm x 150mm (shorter compared to Swedish made brands). Ps: Stradivarius Cpen is 163mm x 149mm Yasaka Cpens: 166mm x 150mm Stiga Cpens: 165mm x 151mm Donic: 164mm x 150mm Forgot about Avalox, they are good also.
------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: opinari
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 2:04pm
I don't think this is right - are you measuring from the top of the handle? My Stiga penhold blades (Intensity, Rosewood) were each just shy of 160mm (around 159mm) - the Intensity is so ever slightly longer, but only by a millimeter (and might have been QC related). My old Xiom penhold (Icarus) and my old Butterfly penhold (Chinese Real) are shorter than the Stigas. I agree though that Yasaka and DHS (Hurricane Hao) are the longest, as compared to folks who have those blades. The new Butterfly blades (starting from last year) are also 161mm and longer than my Stiga. ------------- Blade: BTY Zhang Jike ALC-CS FH: BTY Tenergy 05 BH: BTY Rozena |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 2:34pm
I have a joola kool! c-pen and a joola kool! sh... the head of the c-pen is bigger. ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 2:41pm
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i think you could find the c-pen you want here: http://www.tabletennis11.com/eur_eng/blades-penholder ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 4:58pm
Data from Yasaka/Stiga/Donic japanese catalog.. ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/03/2016 at 11:10pm
Some brands have narrow handles like nittaku and donic for cpens. I m looking for cpens with the same width as stiga |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 2:49am
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Cpen handle size is not brand specific. They all made small and big Cpen handles within each brand. Nittaku Septear is like a child play but Ludeack is real thick. Xiom V1 is normal in size but Strato is again huge. Donic Waldner WC89 easily got the thickest handle in my collection. Personally I like all DHS Hao's Cpen handle and blade size. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 11:12am
Is xiom v1 wide as stiga? |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 11:38am
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I found Xiom V1 has the same width as that of Stiga Intensity Cpen. But the plys of Stiga is thicker so the feel of V1's handle is thinner. Handle alone is pretty much the same. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: opinari
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 11:41am
Just as a FYI, I still don't think that's right - maybe it's older catalogs that used a different way of measuring. For example, latest Yasaka catalog states that Yasaka blades are 163 x 150mm (http://ta-q.jp/j/catalog/Yasaka_2016/P024.html). I would refer folks to the measurements on Japanese websites (e.g., Iruiru), which appear accurate and in any event match the actual measurements of the blades that I have in my collection. Butterfly (2015): 161 x 150 Yasaka: 163 x 150 Nittaku: Depends, some 161 x 151 (e.g., Acoustic, Violin), others smaller (e.g., Ludeack, Rutis) Donic: 162 x 150 Stiga: 159 x 150 DHS: 164 x 150 See also prior post on this subject (http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61930&title=cpens-that-have-big-head-dimensions). These days the shape of penhold blades are all starting to conform to the shape of Yasaka blades - elongated instead of a round shape. ------------- Blade: BTY Zhang Jike ALC-CS FH: BTY Tenergy 05 BH: BTY Rozena |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 12:50pm
 ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: opinari
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 1:47pm
For the benefit of anyone reading this thread, the info above is wrong. Interesting though - it contradicts the official Yasaka catalogs (see my post) and actual measurements for Stiga. Is that from a magazine or third party retailer? To my knowledge, there is not a "Yasaka / Donic / Stiga" catalog, but separate catalogs since they are separate companies. For example: Stiga: http://ta-q.jp/j/catalog/STIGA_2016/thumb01.html Yasaka: http://ta-q.jp/j/catalog/Yasaka_2016/thumb01.html ------------- Blade: BTY Zhang Jike ALC-CS FH: BTY Tenergy 05 BH: BTY Rozena |
Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 2:06pm
It's a catalog.. Anyway, I don't have time and will to scan and post all pages here.. Good luck to OP!  ------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR |
Posted By: xujinjiang99
Date Posted: 05/04/2016 at 2:33pm
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It's not uncommon for manufacturers go give wrong "official information". They do that all the time. When it comes to head sizes, it depends on specific models and even specific years. The head size information on the above pic, at best, applies to three specific models. By no means, it is true for all Stiga, Donic and Yasaka Cpens. Actually, I have never heard of any Stiga Cpen with such a big head. |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 7:57am
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What about yinhe/galaxy cpens? What headsize do they come in? ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: DLC1325
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 1:22pm
I'm curios about this as well. I really enjoy my shakehand E-1 for the money and have thought about getting it in Cpen. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75309" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: PierreAd
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 5:33pm
Waiting for a Galaxy W6 (and a DHS PG7 as well, but that's not the point ;) ). If you're still interested, I'll give you the dimensions as soon as the blade arrives, in about 2 weeks I think. |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 11:35pm
Yeah. I'd very much like that. Thanks ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: wanhao
Date Posted: 05/22/2016 at 11:56pm
| You guys should try using Sword..before it gets popular..lol.. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 12:34pm
What blade feels more solid and fast v1 or intensity? |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 3:11pm
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If you are a traditional penholder, get Taksim. If you use two rubbers and rpb, Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon. If you are combination player (short pips forehand, inverted backhand), then get Clipper CR. That's about everything one need to know about cpen blades. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/23/2016 at 11:03pm
Can you tell me where to find taksim? ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 05/24/2016 at 12:13am
I have not put rubbers on V1 yet so can't compare. My Intensity is light with a crispy and hollow feel. Fast for a 5 ply wood blade. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 12:53am
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What is the headsize of avalox cpen blades? ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 2:59am
Anybody knows if b777 has a thin handle like p700? |
Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 3:23am
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I dont know if it has a thin or thick handle but maybe you can use this pictures as reference http://s1108.photobucket.com/user/mizutani_jun/library/avx%20bt777%20cp%2090g?sort=3&page=1
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Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 4:26am
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I actually want to know the head dimensions of the blade. Handle thickness is not concern for me ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 7:36am
Just briefly tried my friend's V1 today and found it thin, flex and fast. Create spin easy. A perfect looper's blade. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 7:41am
I have a modern logo Yinhe Cpen D701 and the head size is 161x150. I have an old Galaxy Cpen somewhere but can't locate it now. Not 100% sure but I believe that one is smaller. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 7:45am
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Thanks TurboZ ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 1:46pm
How flexy? Like a yeo? i m looking for a xiom composite for short pips |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 6:27pm
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I found YEO pretty stiff with no vibration. I would say the flex of V1 is slightly less than Hurricane Hao series but faster. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: Ladon1997
Date Posted: 05/27/2016 at 10:59pm
| Butterfly Taksim ( shahehand called Viscaria) is the most popular CP blade. Unfortunately , due to monopoly policy for Butterfly China, it is not easy to have it outside the region. More than this blade, they have developed New Taksim called Kochoochcs . The other ALC series are Dedora , Supreme Speed. You can find hugh variety exactly same as Shakehand . It is really expensive and exclusive in China ...... Bizarre |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 12:42am
What do you mean by "monopoly policy"? ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 2:36am
Taksim is not the same as the Viscaria. Taksim is much thicker, much faster.
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Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 3:06am
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Why no cpen butterfly blades like szlcs outside china? ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 3:18am
Less of a market outside China (I would expect), and Butterfly restricts international shipping of Butterfly products, but other than that I can't really think of a good answer.
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/28/2016 at 3:24am
Chinese penhold is popular in China only. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: PierreAd
Date Posted: 05/31/2016 at 5:23pm
Received it yesterday, so here it is : 161x150mm (same as TurboZ's D701), and base (width right above the handle) is about 88mm. http://yattdb.pabuisson.com/#/blades/yinhe-%28milkyway,-galaxy%29/w6-cpen%20" rel="nofollow - You can see the detail here if interested. A bit smaller than the DHS which is around 164x150-151mm. |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 05/31/2016 at 10:05pm
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Thanks bro. That's smaller than yasaka as well ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 07/25/2016 at 12:14am
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Can anyone tell me the head dimensions of avalox cpen blades? I'm interested in getting a P700 ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: xujinjiang99
Date Posted: 07/25/2016 at 11:23am
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Once I had an Avalox P500 Cpen. It got a pretty big head, about 163-165 in length.
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Posted By: ronakvyas86
Date Posted: 07/25/2016 at 2:03pm
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I read on some post that it's smaller than stiga cpens. The comparison was between clipper and p700, and there was a mention of clipper having a bigger headsize ------------- Yasaka Goiabao 5 CPEN, Donic Baracuda MAX FH & RPB |
Posted By: Fcvyy
Date Posted: 04/20/2017 at 5:34pm
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wow, thats a great info. where can i read more about handle size, w/h . im looking at donic zhou yu 1,dhs 656,stiga intensity xx edition, but cant find a specifics
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Posted By: khmd
Date Posted: 04/21/2017 at 4:42pm
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My Avalox P900 Cpen (for 40+ ball) has 157x150 head size, and my clipper has 159x150. The handle is much thinner than clipper, like Butterfly innerforce layer zlc. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 04/21/2017 at 6:31pm
i bought a nittaku blade and the handle was thin like designed for a 11 year old |