999t review -Awesome $5 rubber
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Topic: 999t review -Awesome $5 rubber
Posted By: el luchador
Subject: 999t review -Awesome $5 rubber
Date Posted: 12/04/2016 at 10:13pm
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To keep things in perspective, Im a late 30s player with a current USATT rating of mid 1400s so my game is not advanced and my competition is not that advanced either. I played a tournament with tenergy and I was popping every thing up - serves, pushes etc. I also was not very confident at all of my attack and placement was not good. i decided then to slow things down. go as slow as possible and maximize confidence and control. the 999t is the slowest, and heaviest rubber Ive ever used. it is very tacky, and has a very hard sponge. but not the hardest ive used. I am now using a butterfly grubba pro all minus (slow) with 999t( slow, heavy, and hard) but with this combination in just a few days I am beating guys 3-0 who used to beat me all the time . why? the 999t is a confidence builder!!! -it does not catapult top spin serves that get killed back. with it you can keep most serve returns low and short! and generally control the game. -it can push till the cows come home and not pop a push up. matter of fact, it pushes so well that the push can now become an offensive shot. you can put some action on the ball -placement is great when pushing. it allows one to vary the push with high accuracy between long and short pushes. -it has GREAT touch. you can really decide exactly where you want the ball and it will go there. additionally looping with the 999t is great fun. Because its so slow, you have to really loop the ball just to get the ball spinning but now you are looping with effective technique so if you put some power behind it, it generates a lot of spin and the balls dive down hard. of course, the best thing is it only cost $5 per side so it feels kinda great to win against people using rubber that costs 15 times more. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
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Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 12/04/2016 at 11:14pm
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Is this the one that you are talking about? http://www.eacheng.net/999-999T-Allround-Attack-Loop-p10940.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.eacheng.net/999-999T-Allround-Attack-Loop-p10940.html ------------- skip3119 |
Posted By: ThePongProfessor
Date Posted: 12/04/2016 at 11:45pm
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Good for you !! IMO: Way too many people are playing with equipment that is way too fast and expensive. ------------- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ThePongProfessor http://mytabletennis.net/forum/feedback-thepongprofessor_topic69419.html" rel="nofollow - Feedback |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/04/2016 at 11:59pm
no, this one http://www.eacheng.net/999-999T-Type-p10927.html ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
skip3119 wrote:Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/05/2016 at 12:02am
Thank you. i basically noticed that every time I slowed down my combination, i got a bit better results. The faster rubbers are great when just practicing because everything is long and can be looped or counterloop. in a game scenario with short balls , underspin etc, not so much ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/05/2016 at 12:04am
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btw, here is a quick vid I made showing the tackyness levels. most of it is gone but it will still pick up the ball for a split second. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 12/05/2016 at 10:53am
1+++! |
Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 12/08/2016 at 5:34am
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There are many variations of 999 rubbers. If it not too troublesome can you update pictures at the logo? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28658" rel="nofollow - My Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=49585" rel="nofollow - My Misplaced Feedback |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/16/2016 at 3:23pm
sorry for the late reply. here is the image still using this rubber and still love it. control is amazing. a 2000 player at my club hit with it and his comments were 1. it absorbs incoming spin! 2. chop block is pretty awesome 3. great chopping rubber 4. ZERO CATAPULT! 5. has great control . with this rubber the player can do whatever they want ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 12/16/2016 at 8:44pm
Does it have the "super"、"999T" stamps? ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/16/2016 at 9:13pm
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yes, thats it. thanks for posting. have you played with it yet. I would imagine that for most euro oriented players that like fast blade and catapulty rubber that this will be like ball moving in slow motion but ive got several comments that my form has improved since using it because you cant use half form with this rubber. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 12/17/2016 at 2:33pm
Not yet, eager to try  ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/17/2016 at 2:34pm
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please post some thoughts after you do. thanks ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/18/2016 at 1:37am
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Ive started handing it to my opponents who are not as good as me to give it a try. When I play people who are obviously scared of their tenergy etc combos, cant keep the push going and basically half attack long placements, i'll hand it to them and say "here try this, and guess what the improvement is instant. you can pretty much see the look of revelation on their face like: so this is why this old,fat, slow guy is beating me - his racket has crazy control! ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 12/18/2016 at 6:54am
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Recently an older fella in my club asked me what I think of one his combos, so he gave a Primorac Carbon with the 999t......I was astonished how good the combination was. Long ago I used to play with this rubber, but on my blades and Ididn't like it-too slow, so I bought 999N and with speedglue it was WOW.....but the PC with the red 999t was/is WOW too even now with the new shitty balls Another proof how important the compatibility between rubber and blades is ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: edgy
Date Posted: 12/18/2016 at 8:05am
| Thanks for the excellent review of the rubber, OP! |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/18/2016 at 10:41pm
hey thanks for posting. I have moved mine from the butterfly grubba pro all- to a dhs tg7-al and its still great. the tg7al has a smaller head than the grubba so i was able to cut some weight there. its also faster than the grubba. i think all+?? anyhow, it still has a FANTASTIC short game but now I can blast balls past my opponents. It really funny the bewildered look on faces when Im playing a controlled short game then BAM fast shot with side spin.
------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/18/2016 at 10:45pm
You are welcome. I am about to order 10 sheets of this rubber and it will still be less than one sheet of tenergy. btw, recently I own and have used the following dhs hurricane 2 dhs pf4 kokutaku blutenkirsche japan super tacky 729 fx geospin tacky 729 fx-c (control) and I like the 999t better than all of them. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 12/19/2016 at 12:43am
You may want to try this rubbers or  ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 12/19/2016 at 3:25pm
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hi, tell me more about those rubbers? as I said, Im dropping an order for 10 sheets and what I want to do is use 6 sheets for three different blades and find the rubber/blade combo I like best and still have four sheets for tournament days ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Reaper
Date Posted: 12/28/2016 at 9:25am
Hello, can you tell me what color are the sponges on the Black and Red versions and if they had any text? also, did it had the corners trimmed like Egghead's photo or completely square?
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Posted By: Reaper
Date Posted: 01/03/2017 at 7:52am
Is this a special or factory Tuned Version?... or is this how it comes under the red packaging? sponge color?
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Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 01/03/2017 at 12:33pm
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I'll post a pic of the sponge a bit later. its cream colored i dont believe it has any tuning from the factory. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 01/03/2017 at 2:20pm
I think they are OEM or substandard version  ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 01/04/2017 at 12:37pm
here is what the sponge looks like. Im still playing with it and still enjoying the blend of control and power at the same time its training me to execute strokes better. now when i use a tenergy weapon its deadly. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 01/04/2017 at 4:42pm
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can anyone compare this rubber to hurricane 3 neo or hurricane 8 as regard durability ,speed ,spin ,throw angle ,...etc?
------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 01/04/2017 at 7:57pm
from what i remember read online (taobao and others), it is similar to the old H3. ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 01/04/2017 at 9:08pm
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u mean its speed is less than either h3n or h8? ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 01/04/2017 at 9:11pm
a friend of mine had h3 on a tg7 al, same blade as i use, and we tested it out. it is very similar to h3 but h3 is a little bit more lively. h3 I think is a little faster and per my buddy counterloops better, but at my level they were very similar.
------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 01/04/2017 at 10:36pm
============= If one is interested in, it doesn't cost much to try it out on your own blade. ------------- skip3119 |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 01/05/2017 at 5:40am
how about its durability ? ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 01/05/2017 at 12:50pm
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Very, very, very durable.As all 999 rubbers(including Juic) ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 01/05/2017 at 4:39pm
agree. Ive been using mine 4 days a week up to three hours at a time and its still in good condition. it has lost a little of its slowness that made it great for pushing but it gained a little speed that made it better for attack. still overall a very controllable rubber. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 01/05/2017 at 5:39pm
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i wonder if this rubber is placed on my blade (mj szlc) did the overall speed of the combo will be decreased alot compared to h8 or h3n on my blade (which i tried and its speed is very good not as the speed of euro rubbers but acceptable and satisfied me) as i noticed that someone mentioned in this post that this rubber is recommended to be placed on a fast blade . sorry for my bad language . ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 01/05/2017 at 7:40pm
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Yes , the speed will decrease, but maybe this is not that bad after all ------------- Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3) FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 01/08/2017 at 1:12am
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my buddy who uses h3 on the same blade compares the 999t to h3. As i used both to block i will say it was harder to block the h3 shots as they came with more spin and speed ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 01/08/2017 at 5:11pm
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game play. best sequence from 2:20 -2:40 Im the big guy(ok we are both big guys so Im the one wearing pants lol) match against a player rated 300+ pts higher than me. when i was using bouncy rubbers, I had ZERO chance against him. In this game he doesnt look like an attacker but thats because i tried to keep the ball out of his power zones. Without the tacky rubber control he would be wailing on the ball every single chance and putting me away easy. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 01/19/2017 at 3:27pm
 Still playing with this training rubber. I noticed when playing with better players like 1700+ it feels kinda slow so I decided to try to boost it. Well I couldnt find the bottle of paraffin oil I had bought some time back so I just put about 4 layers of wd40 on it. wow. the doming is dramatic. Red domes more than black. I will play with it tonight and report back on how it plays boosted ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 01/20/2017 at 10:35am
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boosting report: the wd40 really curled up this rubber  It wouldn't even stay on the blade I had to put it in a press  the good: the wd40 restored the original "deadness" of the rubber. Ie when you bounce a ball on the rubber it comes to rest after 2 bounces. It added a top end gear of speed. I didn't feel like the ball was in slow motion when I hit it. with a full swing the spin and speed surprised both myself and my competition. The bad: the rubber would not stay on the blade. by the 4th match, both sides were separating from the blade and I had to stop playing with it. I think I needed to let it dry some more. so note to self- 3 hours after boosting with 5 layers is not enough dry time for the rubber to stay on the blade. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 02/07/2017 at 7:04pm
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can u tell me your opinion about its durability till now ? did its tackiness lasts for long time? ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: DarkerMyLove
Date Posted: 02/07/2017 at 10:10pm
The above question was not directed at me so please excuse me for butting in...  My limited experience with it and noting that durability based on time is all relative to how you are using it. (Playing 2 hrs of matches and 2 hrs of multiball will wear out the rubber at different rates) educated estimates for about 4 weeks of use: 12hrs of multiball / ball machine / fast counter hitting or looping training 7hrs of match play or game type training exercises 5hrs serve practiceSo far the rubber is holding up great. Does not feel dead, no flaking on the edges. Tackiness is the same. On a clean rubber and a clean (used) ball it can hold up the ball for 2 seconds or longer. In some cases it is holding a ball up for over 5 seconds. (slight hand shake could account for the differences) Also I don't think there is a large "breaking in" period. I didn't feel a big difference after 1 hr of play. Plays very consistently as there is no catapult at all. (which is a good or bad thing depending on who you are or what shot you are playing) I'm thinking I might put on a new sheet at the 8 week mark unless it starts to go downhill before that. (i did not boost) Putting in a new order now. But I'm wondering if anyone has used the 999t-1 (loop type) or 999t-2 (speed type) which has different sponge thicknesses? (a google search came up with only stuff on 999t or globe 999t or 999t rubber on Cole's lemon sponge) I'm actually using 999t on both sides and surprisingly love it on my BH but wouldn't mind going down to a 2.0mm sponge or perhaps a touch of extra speed for the BH. They are so cheap I will probably buy a sheet of each to try out. PS. thanks to el luchador for posting this topic initially.
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Posted By: Shifu
Date Posted: 02/08/2017 at 5:36am
if i may tell you: instead of working a lot on your strokes, you should work on your footwork, it's basically non-existing. most shots you miss in that clip are not because of what your hand is doing, it's just that you are not standing where it's easy to make that stroke. try out the famous falkenberg drill for example or for multiball, try to move when getting the balls on your elbow. you will improve much faster than focussing on your strokes so much. edit: bend your knees, stay lower, stand on your forefoot, not on your entire sole. stand more on the backhand side when receiving. as a lefthander, put your left foot front when pushing. you can also flick/loop much easier when you are standing low.
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Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 02/08/2017 at 8:17am
------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: DarkerMyLove
Date Posted: 02/08/2017 at 10:32am
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I should preface all this by saying I work with a coach and also with a machine on my own so my footwork is probably above average, but I would say that H3 Neo is much more demanding than 999T. This is a very linear rubber-- so there is no "bounciness' to it or feeling like you need to hold back power. In fact I feel like this rubber really wants you to push as much power into it like a lot of china/tacky rubbers BUT it doesn't punish you for having your bat angle off just a little. In the short game/serving it really shines as well as looping underspin. Passive blocks will be slow so placement is key. But active blocks is great because you are not worried about the ball jumping off your rubber. You can confidently make a full active block. Looping (brushing and driving) is why I think I'm going to say with 999T long term. Most tacky chinese rubbers will be good with the short game and service, but for me I felt looping with H3 NEO or Skyline TG2 NEO I had to be really precise. I really need to take care of the bat angle and timing (ie footwork & hip rotation). My time with DHS really forced me to be better with footwork and brushing but it was just too unstable/demanding for me... so I went back to Euro/jap rubber...until I saw this thread and gave 999t a try. And looping with it is very stable and consistent. I'm not overly concerned about racket angle and of course you can spin for days...... 999t is less demanding because of the slowness. Slow rubbers have positives and negatives. What you will do is keep the ball on the table and have real confidence to just make the stroke you want and put the ball where you want. BUT.... at the upper levels your opponents will have the skills (footwork/anticipation/reflexes) to get the ball back in many cases, but as long as you keep them in a defensive position, utilize the spin potential especially with serve receive, and move them around you can have success. If you are using H8 this is going to be a slower for sure...whether or not that is a good thing for you is hard to say. For me going slower has been huge and a real eye opener at what is possible not only in seeing the ball stay on the table (and winning more matches) but also in terms of game tempo and strategy. EDITED: MAY 3RD 2017 Played with 999T on both sides for about 3 months and on the BH eventually moved back to Japanese rubber that was slightly softer. Then 2.5 months later I've gone back to Japanese rubber on the FH has well. The big problem with the rubber is passive blocking and also during very quick exchanges where you might be slightly out of position. The slowness and hardness of the rubber makes it a bit unforgiving in these two situations. After changing back to Japanese rubbers I played much more consistently during game play. So the positives of the short game and spin did not outweigh the flaws when playing games. I work with a coach twice a week so obviously I have been improving but you could consider 999T a potential 'stroke' improvement rubber. It really forces you to have extremely good form and full strokes on Every stroke. In reality, a mere mortal like me cannot attain that level of consistency. I need a rubber that is slightly more forgiving because in game play you will not always be in the correct position and be able to make an active block. (never tried boosting it)
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Posted By: Shifu
Date Posted: 02/08/2017 at 2:40pm
| Sorry, it was not clear to who I was talking to in my post, edited it and made it more clear. :) |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 02/08/2017 at 9:37pm
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as regards its weight and hardness is it heavier and harder than h8? also can anyone compare its tackiness to h8? ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 5:47am
I have not used H8 but 999T is definitely tackier than H3NEO, H2NEO, and TG3NEO. I have not used 999T as much so the tackiness may fade a little bit, but it would probably still be around or above the tackiness of said rubbers
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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 8:40pm
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Is there any way to check how much shipping cost from Eacheng to my place? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28658" rel="nofollow - My Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=49585" rel="nofollow - My Misplaced Feedback |
Posted By: DarkerMyLove
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 9:00pm
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You would have to register with the website and then put something (rubber/blade) in your 'shopping cart' and then put in your address. Once you put in your address it will show the shipping cost for those items. I live in Taiwan and strangely I couldn't do the order via the website. I emailed [email protected] and they were very helpful. Just placed a new order with them yesterday. But they usually take at least 3 business days to ship out. To taiwan via a shipping forwarder SF Express it took another 3 business days to arrive. Try to email them and they might be able to give an estimate for japan. But I assume it is only an estimate since many stores base costs on weight.
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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 9:15pm
Thanks for the reply. Ok i will register first and see. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28658" rel="nofollow - My Feedback http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=49585" rel="nofollow - My Misplaced Feedback |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 6:48am
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how about playing with this rubber in a humid weather ? did it deteriorate aggressively ? ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 02/10/2017 at 5:01pm
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Manraid, somewhere, I am almost certain it was at OOAK forum, I saw a thread where I remember it because it was in response to a comment I made about Nexy Karis M being the best rubber I had ever used in humid conditions, something I deal with a lot here in Houston on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico. I've never used that rubber myself, but will try to find the thread. ------ Here it the thread: http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=30932" rel="nofollow - http://ooakforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=30932 One of the guys who mentioned this feature of 999t lives in Malaysia where that is probably a big issue. You might want to contact BH-Man about this feature of 999t. |
Posted By: WingTT
Date Posted: 02/21/2017 at 7:27am
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So I bought a bunch of the Globe 999T and 999 branded Super 999T and a National version 999 from eacheng after encountering this thread in a quest to find the cheapest decent spinny rubbers I could find. Here is my conclusion: The topsheet and quality seem consistent but they are hard and dead feeling as some others have mentioned. They work decently on the forehand but definitely a no go on the backhand as the ball just dies when I try to block or flip with it. With the forehand I can compensate by having a long higher stroke but I can't do that with the backhand. The national version is surprising not tacky at all and works even better on my forehand as the sponge is a bit softer and it feels very controllable. It feels like a slightly slower but a spinnier Mark V. All these Chinese 999s are slower and less spinny than a Hurricane 3 NEO in my opinion and it is hard to generate enough speed and spin in loops to overpower some of my regular playing partners especially when I'm a 45+ overweight guy with limits I did not have when I was younger. I just get blocked down to death unless I can place it where they can't reach it. |
Posted By: DarkerMyLove
Date Posted: 02/21/2017 at 11:43pm
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That's too bad it did not work out. Good to hear your feedback though. Are you using all-wood blade or a composite? |
Posted By: WingTT
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 12:34am
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I'm using the Sword Blue Feather composite blade that is supposed to be a BTY ALC blade workalike. To clarify what I mean with I can't use it on my backhand, it is almost impossible to do close to the table wristy backhand loops/flip of underspin returns as there is just not enough pop from the sponge. Even with a worn Evolution MXP, my backhand opening loops against underspin is a weapon, with the 999 it's an absolute dud. |
Posted By: DarkerMyLove
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 3:33am
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bummer it didn't work out. I would think that blade if the same speed as Viscaria might be ok. (I never tried the other Globe 999 versions that you did) Hopefully it didn't break the bank for you...lol Definitely the big 'buyer beware' on the SUPER 999T speed is that it is SLOW. It's slow (slower than H3 neo for sure) but I think with the plastic ball the Mark V still is slower...but I don't have any scientific evidence : ) I have only hit with my co-worker's mark V which is on a Viscaria for his BH so maybe apples to oranges but I think the 999T is slightly faster. I'm using Darker 7ply hinoki-carbon and just got BBC Nine. But I'm not an EJ'er so maybe it is a dead sponge...but I have no problem with the feeling. It's just a hard "linear" rubber. You're not gonna get any "help" or bounce from this rubber. I have the benefit of coaching and 5-7hr of training per week (i'm getting close to 40yo though) but looping backspin on the BH or flicks is not a problem for me. But you need a strong full stroke for sure....which I guess also means you need good footwork. Maybe I have a few more good years left where my movement is still decent...haha Having said that, even my coach who is probably in the 2250-2300 range and uses DHS rubbers, feels that probably I would be better off with something a bit softer on the BH. Definitely not a BH rubber, but I'm still using it on both sides. Obviously if you are in the 1800-1950+ range I would not recommend changing equipment unless you are already using very slow equipment. Also if you are coming from tensors or any boosted rubber situation the 999T is not going to help you out unless you are losing matches because you cannot control your ball. Also if you have not spent more than 6 months with a tacky rubber you will need at least 4-8 weeks of play to adapt. And definitely you will need to use it on 'relatively' fast blade. Viscaria speed blade or higher. Otherwise it will be too slow. Also I tried it on my Barwell Fleet and it didn't work too well. The Barwell Fleet seems to have a low throw and I just couldn't comfortable with it. The Hinoki wood of my Darker and BBC Nine has a much higher throw and pairs well with the 999T
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Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 03/08/2017 at 2:21pm
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i tried the super 999 t on my friend's blade (yinhe y-13) which he put the rubber both on fh and bh and i compared it to our third friend who has both h3 neo on his blade (yinhe y-13 also) i concluded that : 1- super 999t is a bit faster than h3 neo and h8 on yinhe y-13 (this information was confirmed by fourth friend that was playing with h3n,h8 on his viscaria and confirmed that super 999t was noticebly abit faster than h3n and h8 2- it creates a very massive and huge spin and pushing with was a great pleasure more than h3n and h8 3- it has the best control i've ever seen it's control was alot alot better than h3n and h8 4- alot more forgiving than h8 and h3n(999t more forgiving than h3n and h3n more forgiving than h8 ) 5- it has more tackiness than h3n and h8 when new ( i lift the ball upward and recieve it on the blade with no bounce at all unlike h3n and h8 which bounce twice before stick to the rubber i bought a sheet and i'll remove my fh h8 2.15 mm rubber and i 'll glue it to my blade soon ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/08/2017 at 4:23pm
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Thanks for the review. I threw away my hurricane 2 because it was slow and flat AMD ordered 4 sheets of h3 . Well the h3 came and I was shocked how close it plays to the 999t.ie slow and no catapult. Good for pushing and blocking but no attack unless you are going all out. Wtf? My buddy has the same exact blade with h3 and his combo is an attacking monster. Well it turns out he uses the national version and it comes preboosted. He played with my racket and laughed at how dead it was and said in gonna have to boost the heck out of it to get it to be faster and have more spin. So I'm gonna say unboosted h3 and super 999t play very similar but 999t has a bit more short game control ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Jasonh
Date Posted: 03/08/2017 at 5:00pm
Boost it or play with it for a few weeks until the tackiness fades away a bit and the sponge is not that rock hard. ------------- Fly away! |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/08/2017 at 5:54pm
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Im gonna boost the heck out of it. someone needs to invent a rubber peening mallet for table tennis rubber break-in most recently Ive been playing with Sanwei t88-ii on my forehand which is basically a $10 tenergy and coming back to the dead sponge is like a rude awakening. It takes some getting used to. anyhow, the h3 is stewing in boost right now. Im going to do about 10 layers, wrap it in a trash bag for two days, and then try it out. I'll report back if it plays better boosted ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/09/2017 at 12:14pm
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ok , so I boosted the heck out of hurricane 3 and can report some differences. Im going to use hurricane 3 and super 999t on the same blade to do a better comparison. super 999t is $5 and hurricane 3 was $11, so not a big difference in price. unboosted I have to say super 999t is better. they are both dead slow but the sponge on the super 999t has a better feel. boosted they are very different. super 999t barely picks up speed, where hurricane 3 picks up a noticeable amount of speed and spin (but is still slow and non spinny compared to any European style rubber. both place a great emphasis on correct stroke particulary on the forehad and are great for training, and both have a great short game and dead block ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/09/2017 at 12:23pm
if you are looking for a cheap spinny loopy back hand rubber, try Sanwei t88-ii. I bought it from my coach who is a 1900 player and won and under 1900 tournament and $150 with it. so he upgraded his racket and blade and I bought his old stuff. it plays like a 3 month old tenergy 05. and it costs $10 bucks ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 03/12/2017 at 7:48am
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which has the more tackiness the red rubber or the black ?or both have the same tackiness? ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/12/2017 at 8:50am
I will answer that on Tuesday. Ill put a red sheet on the backhand. I played with the black sheet last night. I overboosted it a few days ago and then glued it on so it would say in a stretched condition for a day or two. Then I peeled it off, added one layer of boost only and glued it back on. (Party!!!). I have used a lot of tacky Chinese rubbers. Boosted H3 may be the best. It has amazing feel. I was blocking for a 1900 player like it was nothing,and it lifts under spin almost effortlessly ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 9:08pm
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can anyone explain this term " zero catapult " for me please? ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: JacekGM
Date Posted: 03/13/2017 at 9:28pm
Think of a very springy rubber... and then think of a complete opposite - that is it! ------------- (1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH. |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 9:05am
black is a little bit tackier than red. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 9:18am
zero catapult would be like playing with a wood blade. maximum catapult is a rubber where it feels like the tt ball is bouncing on a trampoline. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 03/14/2017 at 9:34am
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from what i see on my blade i conclude the following facts: 1- 999t has more obvious control than h8 and h3n 2-999t is a bit faster than h8 due to its softer sponge 3-999t is bouncy on my blade and this is due to the blade not the rubber itself my blade is very very bouncy and if u misread the incoming spin or misjudge your angle stroke u will be punished but still 999t less bouncy than h8 on my blade 4-its tack is a bit higher than h8 and its spin is a bit higher 5- the red rubber is softer than the black rubber 6- the weight of my blade while having 2 h8 was 215 gram now it is 195 gram so 999t is lighter than h8 that's my observation till now it is the 2nd day of practicing with it ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/15/2017 at 8:35am
very acute and accurate observations. I dont know what I was thinking when i thought h3 was better. I played h3 back and fore on monday night, peeled both off and played super 999t backhand and forehand tuesday night( last night) so i could have a true back to back comparison. I was lost but now Im found. boosted, super 999t is softer and has better feel, way more spin than h3, especially the red sheet, a little bit more lively than h3. the only place where h3 wins is it blocks better. I found two important things that made me appreciate this rubber better(super 999t) 1. the red side is simply phenomenal. I had been using the black side for my forehand and that was a mistake. the red side is tackier, and the rubber swells more when boosted, and it is livelier. its almost sad that the black side doesnt play as well. on the forehand the red side is a beast. 2. this is a very low throw rubber. you have to think "aim high" when lifting under spin or attacking. 3. this is a very low throw rubber. that bears repeating 4. finally, I found that this rubber plays best closer to the table. so, for close to the table play, super 999t, especially the red side, is a beast. and it only cost $5. my buddy and i switched rackets, and he has andro rasant on his forehand. way more expensive than super 999t. it was unboosted. boosted 999t has more spin than unboosted andro rasant ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 03/15/2017 at 12:50pm
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on my blade which i think is medium to med-high throw angle the 999t is not a low throw rubber at all except when lifting underspin and to overcome that u must brush looping the ball with the blade angle upwards otherwise into the net other than lifting underspin it isnot low throw rubber at all (on my blade) away from the table it perform absolutely wonderful (and this is due to my blade also which have a huge power away from the table ) ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: coffeeholic
Date Posted: 03/15/2017 at 1:00pm
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how does this rubber play unboosted? ------------- Tibhar Samsonov Alpha | Yasaka Rakza 7 | Xiom OmegaIV Euro Rubbers don't offer control. YOU are the control! |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/16/2017 at 10:10am
what blade do you play with. I may have to try it if its not very expensive. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/16/2017 at 10:11am
hi, it plays like most other tacky chinese rubbers unboosted. ie, dead and very very low spin but a very high amount of control ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 03/16/2017 at 6:04pm
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my blade is mizutani super zlc and it is very expensive (375 usd new and around 250-270 usd for used i think) ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/16/2017 at 11:45pm
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ouch! well i put the rubber sheets on a timo boll spirit and it did improve the throw. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: dmoney
Date Posted: 03/17/2017 at 12:58am
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I just got mine and put it on an old pre-assembled double fish blade I got a while back. Other than this paddle I have a Ma Lin Extra Offensive with Mark V on both sides. It was really fun to experiment with something different. I might start to experiment with some more Chinese rubbers. I like the lack of trampoline effect. It just seems to have a much more rational direct cause and effect when hitting the ball. This is coming from a relative noob, so take it for what it is worth. Still a long way to go on my TT journey. :) ------------- Thanks! |
Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 03/17/2017 at 8:07am
if you want my advise try there rubbers on yinhe -mercury y-13 blade this blade with chinese rubbers have a great harmony i tried 999t on this blade and it was waoooo and btw it isn't an expensive blade it costs around 13 usd only ------------- MJ SZLC ST FH Hurricane 8 2.15m Black BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/18/2017 at 8:20pm
welcome!!!! experiment away.one thing I like about chinese rubbers is they are cheap. there is a huge thread on ooakforums about the cheap chinese rubbers that you might look into. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Audrey17
Date Posted: 03/20/2017 at 7:32am
| The best value you can get in table tennis rubber. Tons of Spin, many gears, easy blocks and all that for 5-6$. on a faster all wood or carbon blade it has absolutely sufficient speed for mercyless attack. If you like Spin and Control without any trampoline effect in the sponge, try that Rubber! But Careful,I don´t talk about GLOBE 999T. |
Posted By: pgpg
Date Posted: 03/20/2017 at 8:47am
This is lifted verbatim from tabletennisdb review here: http://www.tabletennisdb.com/rubber/999-super-999t.html Audrey17 reminds me of recent 'Susanne' chatbot from TTD forum... ------------- USATT: ~1810 Butterfly Defense Alpha ST - H3 Neo - Cloud&Fog OX |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/20/2017 at 10:22am
good catch. I wonder why they would do that. funny enough is at a tournament this weekend I got to play a guy who had globe 999t on his blade. the tackiness was the same and the sponge had the same color. so I wouldn't be surprised if globe 999t and super 999t are the same thing. I'll have to order some globe 999t to compare. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 03/20/2017 at 11:01am
 , does it mean it plays like shxt on an all- blade? I just bought some and wanted to put on my def blade, may be I should get Xushaofa 999 LSZ instead.  ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 03/20/2017 at 11:15am
I think 999 is an oem company; there is "XuShaoFa 999" too  ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/20/2017 at 4:01pm
it plays great on an all- blade. the first blade I put mine on was my grubba pro all- man it had a ton of control especially because it was still super tacky. only thing is when it comes time to attack, just know that you have to swing hard. REALLY HARD ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: dmoney
Date Posted: 03/20/2017 at 4:50pm
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This what I love about this rubber! ------------- Thanks! |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 03/25/2017 at 10:33pm
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Finally, I glued the rubber (put one very thin layer of booster on sponge, just in case) to my all+ blade, and had a hitting session with my hitting partner. The rubber has enough speed and spin, not as much as H3 or TG3 though. However, men, I believe all of us shall have this rubber on one of our used blades, and we use it to have a 5 mins fh / bh warm up before training, tournament ... etc. Unlike tensor rubbers, this rubber will force you to have correct strokes and techniques. If your stroke is no good, the ball will hit under the net. No kidding ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: CyberInferno
Date Posted: 03/25/2017 at 11:36pm
| I'm really enjoying this rubber. Finally generating the spin I want. Thanks for the recommendation. |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/26/2017 at 12:24am
lol. my thoughts exactly. even if not using this for tournament play its is definitely a great training rubber because correct form must be used. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/26/2017 at 12:25am
youre welcome buddy. Im just happy seeing people try the $5 rubber and not automatically dismissing it for being too cheap. ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 03/26/2017 at 1:47am
bro, cannot use this rubber in tournament, nothing to do with speed / spin (it has more than enough), this rubber cannot help you when you are in tight spot
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Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 03/26/2017 at 7:31am
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lol. yep I used it backhand and forehand in an under 1500 tournament last weekend and got eliminated in the quarter finals by a player who had some heavy pushing going on that I did not have an answer for. had I been using tenergy though I wouldnt even have gotten to the elimination round  ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 03/26/2017 at 1:18pm
hmm, tenergy ???? it sounds like you hit the ball very hard (not a really problem). You may want to add some more spins into your strokes to bring the ball down or not hit so hard when you use tenergy next time ya, that 999t needs you to hit hard ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: Reaper
Date Posted: 04/30/2017 at 7:27pm
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my review is a little bit disappointing, i'm a big fan of sticky rubber and i finally used this rubber thinking it would suit my style, but didn't perform well. I have been using a 3 year old 1.5mm DHS PF4-1 that i removed from a cheap premade, my BH flips were deadly because of the tacky rubber and slow speed and my chopping was very controllable and got me some points... eventually the sponge flattened and i had to find a replacement. I got the Super 999T in red and the topsheet is extremely see-through (doesn't seems promising but we'll see), it's not as tacky as it claims to be, doesn't pick any ball at all. it's 2.2mm 44° and the bounce is null, even a 1.5mm from a premade had more bounce, it is useless in blocking anything. I do like slow rubbers but i'm struggling with this one. I couldn't score many points with the backhand flick, it was so unpredictable, sometimes the topsheet wouldn't grab or simply the incoming ball would just not bounce off of it. The chopping went better but nothing out of the ordinary Maybe i got one from a bad batch but I was expecting so much more from this rubber claiming to be a super tacky rubber with controlled speed.  ------------- Neottec Magic Control -CN : Nexy Karis M / 61second Kangaroo Revoldia clone -ST: Hurricane 9 green / 61second Eagle Donier Defensive -ST: Sword Long Can / 61second Eagle |
Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 04/30/2017 at 8:47pm
Hi Egghead I searched for 999T on Taobao but I didn't find the rubber. There are some 999Ts but doesn't seem to be the same one of this thread. Does someone know if this rubber is still on taobao?
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Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 04/30/2017 at 8:53pm
ya, couple stores have 999T  https://world.taobao.com/item/15692601418.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.CFodxE#detail https://world.taobao.com/item/40036206178.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.CFodxE#detail ------------- Aurora ST: Rhyzm / Talent OX |
Posted By: shinshiro
Date Posted: 04/30/2017 at 9:33pm
Wow, thank you very much! I need to learn how to search better on Taobao haha Edit: Does anyone know how this rubber compares to reactor corbor?
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Posted By: el luchador
Date Posted: 05/01/2017 at 8:16pm
hmm. sorry about the experience. interesting that it had no tack. may we ask where you bought it from? thanks ------------- Do or do not, there is no try- Yoda |
Posted By: rossicarbon
Date Posted: 05/02/2017 at 4:51pm
| I am currently using a globe 999T blue sponge version which was given to me by a friend. This version is far more better than the globe999 blue sponge version that claimed to be the national version. The globe999T blue sponge version is more lighter and bouncer and the weird thing about the rubber when it you cut a new sheet the Topsheet looks very dull similar to Antispin rubber but the more you play and the more you clean after every session, it becomes shiny and sticky. |
Posted By: DarkerMyLove
Date Posted: 05/02/2017 at 10:42pm
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(I edited my original February post with the below comments just now) Played with 999T on both sides for about 3 months and on the BH eventually moved back to Japanese rubber that was slightly softer. Then 2.5 months later I've gone back to Japanese rubber on the FH has well. The big problem with the rubber is passive blocking and also during very quick exchanges where you might be slightly out of position. The slowness and hardness of the rubber makes it a bit unforgiving in these two situations. After changing back to Japanese rubbers I played much more consistently during game play. So the positives of the short game and spin did not outweigh the flaws when playing games. I work with a coach twice a week so obviously I have been improving but you could consider 999T a potential 'stroke' improvement rubber. It really forces you to have extremely good form and full strokes on Every stroke. In reality, a mere mortal like me cannot attain that level of consistency. I need a rubber that is slightly more forgiving because in game play you will not always be in the correct position and be able to make an active block. (never tried boosting it)
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