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Topic: Stiga Mantra S,M,H RubbersPosted By: yogi_bear
Subject: Stiga Mantra S,M,H Rubbers
Date Posted: 01/28/2017 at 8:08am
Mantra S
Weight: 62 grams uncut
Speed: Off-
Spin: High
Mantra M
Weight: 63 grams uncut
Speed: OFF
Spin: Very High
Mantra H
Weight: 65 grams uncut Speed: OFF+
Spin: Very High
Stiga Mantra S,M,H
After several months of
waiting for the new Mantra rubbers, I finally came to get hold of the 3
variants in my hands. First of all, just to dispel the rumors about the recall
of the Mantra rubbers, it was not about the rubbers being defective or having
low durability. It was not the case but rather some sort of factory
“enhancement” that they had to do with the rubber which I know but do not have
the liberty to discuss.
I got the red Mantra S, M
and H versions and got paired with the Genesis rubbers and a DHS Hurricane 3
for the Carbonado 290 and 245 plus the Celero Blade. The 3 variants of Mantra have the same pimple
structure and sponge with only the hardness being different for each variant.
The sponge for the 3 rubbers all minute pores which are different from ESN
tensor sponges.The H version is like at least 47 degrees, the M is like 45
degrees and S version like 42 degrees in hardness.
The topsheet of the Mantra
rubbers are surprisingly different from what I have expected coming from a
Japanese rubber company who made it. Unlike the Airoc series, The new topsheets
have a very grippy surface and they don’t have this “plastic-like” texture. The
quality is also good and consistent upon inspection. Many people are asking,
what good are they and how do we know that these are just not marketing
gimmicks? Those are the questions I also asked myself when I tried to place
myself on other people’s shoes especially the doubtful ones and I do not blame
them for being doubtful.
Among the 3 Mantra
rubbers, the Hard version is the fastest one. It matches the speed if not even
faster than a Tibhar MX-P. The Japanese rubbers never had any problem with
speed. Actually they have plenty of speed but in the past they needed more
spin. The M version is also fast but on the level of an EL-S. The S version is
soft and slow. It is slower than an FX-P.
Now for the spin, the
topsheets of the 3 variants are very grippy. This is the first time that the Japanese
company producing the rubbers for Stiga have come up with such a topsheet. IN
the past, the Airocs were spinny but not on this level the Mantra rubbers have.
The closest topsheet characteristic I have felt for the Mantra rubbers are that
of the Haifu Shark 3 and Whale 3 which in the past were also tested here in
this forum. They are as grippy without the tackiness. The H version has almost
the same spin level as the MX-P but it has a sharper and longer trajectory. The
throw is low but when I used it with the 290 carbonado, it was accurate enough
just to clear the net. The M version is also very spinny. Actually both M and H
versions are spinny enough that they could pass as ESN rubbers but they have this
trajectory that makes them different from ESN rubbers. The M version has a
medium arc while the S version has a medium to high arc. The S version needs to
be hit through the sponge to produce more spin. This rubber is designed for
people who compress the sponge a lot when driving or looping. The Genesis
rubbers are initially more spinny but when you compress more on the sponge and
when you do very strong attacks, that is
where the Mantra H and M rubbers shine and you can feel the combination of the
speed and spin.
Which of the 3 variants? I
was really biased with the H version but lately I also like the M version a
lot. Let me explain why. The H version is
Mantra H version is one of
the most stable rubber I have tried in terms of attacking and blocking. Take
note that the H version was placed on a Carbonado 290 and the said blade is an
off+ very fast attacking blade. I had no problem blocking with it. It produced
a low return when blocking just an inch higher than the net which is sometimes
hard for opponents to attack back. It is very easy to block with both H and M versions
of the Mantra but the H version seems to be very potent. The H version’s very
low throw sometimes upsets players that I have looped with and the ones of have
tried the Mantra H with the Carbonado 290 all agree that the rubber has unique
attacking properties. The ones who have tried it were actively using Donic
P-series rubbers and some other guys have been using MX-P. The guys using the
Donci P-series rubber swear by it that it is a much better rubber and more
vicious in attacking while the guys using MX-P are greatly impressed by it due
to its sharp low arc and good spinning capabilities. The M version is the tamed
version of the Mantra H. It can do everything the M version can but on a more
tamed attack and easier to control. The 3 rubbers are never spin sensitive but
they spin great with serves and pushes aside from loops. The S version, I would
recommend it really for a backhand rubber or for developing players mostly. The
H and M versions are really the rubbers to buy.
------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/28/2017 at 11:11am
These are big rubbers for stiga. Need to get this release right, especially at the price they're asking.
Posted By: Reaper
Date Posted: 01/28/2017 at 12:38pm
if they sell it more expensive than the Tibhar Evo series, they're doomed... just like airocs
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 01/28/2017 at 12:44pm
Reaper wrote:
if they sell it more expensive than the Tibhar Evo series, they're doomed... just like airocs
This is a problem, although it depends on what Mantra brings to the table of course. But when you can get EL-S for $36 from ttnpp then it has some ground to cover.
Posted By: polbotinka
Date Posted: 01/30/2017 at 1:16am
I wonder what is the sponge hardness in degrees?
Posted By: Saitama
Date Posted: 01/30/2017 at 2:30am
Hope you can compare this with the genesis series
Posted By: carbon136
Date Posted: 01/30/2017 at 5:54am
I'm looking forward to your review :)
I'd like to know if they can compete with the Tenergies, as Evolutions are quite different (MX-P harder than T05, and afaik the others have low throw angle)
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 10:35am
updated with review
------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 11:39am
yogi_bear wrote:
First of all, just to dispel the rumors about the recall
of the Mantra rubbers, it was not about the rubbers being defective or having
low durability. It was not the case but rather some sort of factory
“enhancement” that they had to do with the rubber which I know but do not have
the liberty to discuss.
Hahahahaha. Bravo!
Great reviews, as ever.
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 11:57am
great reviews - had been waiting for them.
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 12:08pm
Sounds like it shares some characteristics with Nexy Karis, which is made in the same factory I think. Maybe a Karis on steroids.
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 12:47pm
and now the question that everyone is wondering about. Is Mantra H a good alternative to T05?
Posted By: Chicobo
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 1:02pm
Could you elaborate a bit more on the comparison against the Genesis rubbers? Might end up getting them since dandoy has a 3 for 4 deal on genesis.
------------- Stiga Genesis x2 on Nexy Rubicon Galaxy Moon/Air Illumina Alpha on Andro Temper Tech Off- USATT 1620...Learning to play vs long pips
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/09/2017 at 6:01pm
Karis still has the old topsheet so this has a new and better one.
Genesis is a dhs rubber so it plays differently. Genesis may be spinnier on slower loops and pushes but the stronger the attacks get, the better is the mantra h & m compared to genesis.
In terms of spin ni, t05 is still king. The mantra h and m however arealready in the level of esn rubbers and if you ask me they are better than the acuda p series
------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS
Posted By: GSOM_GSOM11
Date Posted: 02/11/2017 at 10:07am
So,good grip, speedy japanese sponge and low throw. Looks like it solves the great post-glue problem of finding a replacement for heavily glued Bryce?
Posted By: GSOM_GSOM11
Date Posted: 02/11/2017 at 10:59am
Yogi, could you please compare Mantra vs Acuda P (H vs P1 or M vs P2) in terms of hardness, throw, pips structure - which one has denser pips, and overall feel. Does Mantra behave more like Acuda P (or, maybe, T64) either like Bluefire (T05)?
Posted By: Makelele
Date Posted: 02/11/2017 at 6:28pm
May be a comparison of speed and spin between Mantras and Calibra LT and LT sound? Thanks!
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/11/2017 at 9:05pm
Mantra h os like a tamed version of mxp with lesser spin but with better control. Mantra h is faster than calibra lt plus
------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS
Posted By: Makelele
Date Posted: 02/21/2017 at 8:30pm
Baal wrote:
Sounds like it shares some characteristics with Nexy Karis, which is made in the same factory I think. Maybe a Karis on steroids.
Baal, in the Karis thread you said that you had bought the Mantra M. Did you have a chance to try it? May be a comparison with Evolution MX-P? Thanks.
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 02/21/2017 at 9:34pm
Just arrived today (Mantra M). Just glued them down on a Viscaria. Very nice packaging. (Note to self. Don't use Stiga attach glue again). Top sheet is brighter color than Karis, both red and black. Topsheet seems really grippy, will know more when I play, but like Yogi says, this topsheet looks really nice, I will be pretty surprised if this stuff is not super spinny. Sponge seems a little softer than Karis M. Inner pips seem relatively small in height but definitely longer than Karis, probably double the height (the pips on Karis are barely there at all). They are not very wide. Topsheet overall is considerably thicker than Karis, but still thin compared to many other rubbers. Not even the slightest hint of a booster smell. Not much curling when the rubber just lays there (less than I noticed with Karis). Can't say more until I play with it except that just bouncing ball on a blade suggests it will be a bit faster than Karis. Need to hit with it to be sure obviously.
I am comparing to Karis because they come from tbe same factory and I am using Karis M at the moment. After I play with it some I will try to compare it to T05 and MX-P.
Posted By: Makelele
Date Posted: 02/21/2017 at 11:21pm
I'll be reading.
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 02/22/2017 at 11:38pm
I wrote about Mantra M in the Karis thread. You will see why if you read it there.
They are surprisingly similar overall, about the same speed (I was expecting Mantra M would be faster but it is not), but Karis is more linear.
Mantra M is a good rubber. I very much wanted to like it. I am sticking with Karis M, though, even though the top surface of Mantra is very nice. (Rich and creamy, like a milkshake).
People coming from MX-P or Tenergy will want something faster than Mantra M, so maybe they should follow Yogi and get Mantra H.
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/23/2017 at 7:04am
Baal, i think the Mantra M is better for harder blades.
------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS
I've quickly tried Mantra H on a friend's blade. It's harder and faster than T64.
Mantra H will be even harder. Speed wise, I think Mantra might be faster (unboosted)
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 03/01/2017 at 5:08am
Thanks mate. On my current setup I feel I need something harder than my usual T64, but not slower by any means. So I thought about Mantra H as a possible contender
tried Mantra H FH on an Andro Wanok. Ren Off with ELS on BH. Not a lot faster than the ELS, good spin, great control. In combination with the top sheet , it didn't feel that hard. In summary a very good rubber. Possibly the best FH rubber for me.
In comparison to T64 (which I found to be suitable only on my BH) - from what I remember - a lot less bouncy.
Posted By: hidasjoki
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 5:13pm
Mantra H is a lot less bouncy than t64. It might have a similar top end speed but overall it is slower than t64.
------------- <3
Posted By: Kolev
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 7:34pm
Well, I bought Mantra H today and of course tried it immediately. It is one pleasent surprise.I put it on one of my balsa carbon and the combination doesn't feel hard at a!l. Super grippy top sheet, rather high throw and the excellent control makes it one of the best rubbers I've tried recently. I wouldn't call it a speed monster, but it is still in the OFF range. Not very different than my T64, although I haven't done very thorough comparison between both rubbers. I'll go in details on Monday when I'll have some more serious opponents
Posted By: Saitama
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 7:49pm
does it play like mxp?? speed and spin?? any comparison?
Posted By: Makelele
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 9:14pm
tom wrote:
tried Mantra H FH on an Andro Wanok. Ren Off with ELS on BH. Not a lot faster than the ELS, good spin, great control. In combination with the top sheet , it didn't feel that hard. In summary a very good rubber. Possibly the best FH rubber for me.
In comparison to T64 (which I found to be suitable only on my BH) - from what I remember - a lot less bouncy.
I know it's off topic, but only a question just out of curiosity - why you found T64 suitable only for your backhand?
Posted By: tom
Date Posted: 03/02/2017 at 11:27pm
My BH lacked speed. I found T64 could compensate till my stroke got stronger. My FH did not need that kind of help. I felt it would hinder full development of my FH.
Posted By: Makelele
Date Posted: 03/03/2017 at 5:29pm
Ok.Thanks.
Posted By: Believer
Date Posted: 03/26/2017 at 7:59am
Just saw a clip on YouTube showing Fan ZhenDong testing the Mantra rubber.
[URL= https://youtu.be/cZXb9adVxcs][/URL]
Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 03/26/2017 at 2:37pm
Hello friends, is upper layer of mantra rubbers thin like rasanters and select and prime? Thank you very much.
Posted By: neon
Date Posted: 08/27/2017 at 3:59pm
No one? Please help wiht some information. tks
Posted By: richrf
Date Posted: 10/02/2017 at 3:58pm
yogi_bear wrote:
Watch out for the mantra h. It is the rubber to watch. Topsheet is very grippy and spinny..
Thanks much for a really great review.
One quick question. How is the M or H when opening up against heavy underspin serve? Thanks again.
Posted By: p1ngp0ng3r
Date Posted: 10/02/2017 at 4:35pm
Playing with Mantra M couple of months now. The M is already pretty firm, at least more firm compared to other medium rubbers. Mantra H must feel rock hard I imagine.
I use Mantra M on Infinity vps, which is a flexible blade. This combo is very good for lifting underspin. If you pair Mantra M or H with a hard blade, not sure if it's a gpod combo for lifting underspin.
------------- Infinity VPS - Hybrid MK - T25 FX
Posted By: richrf
Date Posted: 10/02/2017 at 5:02pm
p1ngp0ng3r wrote:
Playing with Mantra M couple of months now. The M is already pretty firm, at least more firm compared to other medium rubbers. Mantra H must feel rock hard I imagine.
I use Mantra M on Infinity vps, which is a flexible blade. This combo is very good for lifting underspin. If you pair Mantra M or H with a hard blade, not sure if it's a gpod combo for lifting underspin.
Thanks much. This was the info I was looking for. Helps a lot.
Posted By: richrf
Date Posted: 10/02/2017 at 6:33pm
p1ngp0ng3r wrote:
Playing with Mantra M couple of months now. The M is already pretty firm, at least more firm compared to other medium rubbers. Mantra H must feel rock hard I imagine.
I use Mantra M on Infinity vps, which is a flexible blade. This combo is very good for lifting underspin. If you pair Mantra M or H with a hard blade, not sure if it's a gpod combo for lifting underspin.
One more quick question if I'm not imposing. Can you share with me whether you are using 1.9 or 2.1. I'm thinking of pairing it with Arctic Wood.
Posted By: p1ngp0ng3r
Date Posted: 10/03/2017 at 2:32am
richrf wrote:
One more quick question if I'm not imposing. Can you share with me whether you are using 1.9 or 2.1. I'm thinking of pairing it with Arctic Wood.
I'm using 2.1. for both FH and BH.
Haven't played with Arctic yet, but what I've read it would be pretty similar to Infinity, but a bit faster and stiffer. Maybe Yogi could comment on Arctic in combination with Mantra M.
------------- Infinity VPS - Hybrid MK - T25 FX
Posted By: richrf
Date Posted: 10/03/2017 at 8:24am
p1ngp0ng3r wrote:
richrf wrote:
One more quick question if I'm not imposing. Can you share with me whether you are using 1.9 or 2.1. I'm thinking of pairing it with Arctic Wood.
I'm using 2.1. for both FH and BH.
Haven't played with Arctic yet, but what I've read it would be pretty similar to Infinity, but a bit faster and stiffer. Maybe Yogi could comment on Arctic in combination with Mantra M.
Thanks again!
Posted By: Zwill
Date Posted: 12/20/2017 at 4:42pm
I've been a long time Stiga "sound" or soft rubber fan, I believe even back in the speed glue days, Neos sound, Almana sound, Carbo sound, loved them all, then when the speed glue ban came I still tried to keep the soft rubber feeling playing with Tenergy 05 FX and Andro Rasant Powersponge, Stiga Calibra Tour sound, Stiga Airoc Astro sound, lately I've been playing with Tibhar FX-S and I have to say all of them were pretty okay, FX-S was particularly nice. I was using all of these on a Primorac Carbon btw. Initially I've skipped the Mantra for Tibhar FX-S because I'm used to soft rubbers, but one thing all of these soft rubbers have in common which I despise is that on slow balls they catapult the ball way too much. Once there's some speed on the ball this effect is not dusturbing but during short play it was always an issue for me. The other problem is once I got a no spin pushed ball to my backhand unless I gave the spin to the ball or gave it the speed it would just fall in the net.
For counter topspining these rubbers give excellent feeling and control for me on both sides so I've kept using them until now. I'm just telling this so you can kind guess my preference and playing style. Btw I'm a mid distance attacker who likes to do 3rd shot loopkills on both sides if possible.
This monday I've put on two Mantra H versions 2,1mm on both sides on a Schlager Carbon light because I figured these hard versions will be much more faster and the Schlager Carbon light is a bit slower than the Primorac but have the same attributes pretty much. The Mantra H is certainly harder than MX-P maybe a bit faster too (less catapult on slow balls). One of my teammates plays with Mantra M and I would say the M version has a bit of a catapult effect on slow balls but the hardness difference is not much honestly, on my hard blade the H version almost feels softer. The H versions are very well driven I have no issuse on my backhand on no spin weak balls, 3 shot attacks can be very well executed. I my topspins are right on top of the net. Receiving service is very easy, much-much easier than with the mentioned soft rubbers. Underspin balls are also less of an issue than with soft rubbers which kinda blew my mind.
Blocking is very stable, generally close to the table play is excellent and they are not too fast, I'm considering glueing them on my Primorac carbon because I could accept a bit more speed.
Only place I've struggled with them is during counter topspinning far from the table, I'll have to adjust my style or I don't know yet, but I gained much more on close play and I can still work from behind it just takes more concentration and effort.
One more thing when in beginning of October I played against someone a match who used Mantra M I felt that after the ball tounched my side of the table it got a kick effect or some kind of weirdness to it, but I didnt gave it much thought then. Then one of my teammate have bought M version and I felt the same thing in training. I've hit a lot of edge balls and I could see that something is not right. Now that I've put the H on my blade my teammate can see the same effect and it is causing him issues during counter topspins. After the ball contacts the table it almost feels like it comes off a fast long pip with flow effect or I don't know how to say it but there's definietely some weirdness to the trajectory. I've never experienced it before with other attacking rubbers. (and Tenergy has a nice kick effect but this is different and actually much harder to adjust to)
Sorry for the wall-of-text I just want to create some momentum for the rubber if I can because I don't think it's very popular, maybe due to price or lack of reviews or both but as a soft rubber + hard wood lover I could adjust pretty quickly and so far I like the H version a lot. The soft version I have not tried yet. I tried the M version on a Boll Spirit and I'd say that it's not a good combo, didn't like it, and the M version on a Stiga allround blade and didn't like it either. Maybe the M version is also better on a hard wood but since it's not significantly softer I wouldn't bother.
Thanks to yogi_bear for the review, it actually gave me the courage to go for the H version and not chicken our with M or S.
PS: unboosted
Posted By: Forerunnerg34
Date Posted: 03/23/2018 at 11:55pm
Would you please provide your thoughts if any about Mantra vs MX-S ?
Thanks.
Posted By: pak abu
Date Posted: 04/13/2018 at 2:21am
Hi yogi..
how about direct comparison Stiga Mantra H with Joola Rhyzm (48 degree). intern of spin and speed and easiness to loop the back spin. Currently I'm using Joola Rhyzm..
Thank you.
------------- DHS TG 506+
FH: JOOLA Rhyzm (black, max)
BH: YASAKA Rakza 7 Soft (red,2.0mm)
Posted By: richrf
Date Posted: 04/30/2018 at 2:23pm
I finally received my Killerspin Diamond CQ blade and put a couple of Mantra M 1.9 rubbers on it. For me, the best combination of blade and rubber that I've tried. Immediately I was very comfortable unlike the feeling I get with ESN or Tenderly rubbers. Very linear and predictable. Nice spin, nice speed, great control and overall very enjoyable play. No pyrotechnics, huge catapult, big smell and done, just a great functioning rubber for modern play at a fairly reasonable price (TT11 has a 3=4 sale on it). This is a Japanese rubber so I expect it to wear and last like my Calibra LT, which means lots of life. I was going to try out Rozena, and I still might (I prefer predictable linearity) though I am very satisfied now so I might just wait and see what I'll put on my other Diamond CQ.
I want to emphasize that the blade/rubber combination is really important. I didn't like it in the Donic True Carbon. The Diamond CQ is an OFF- but I don't know the exact composition and Lupi couldn't tell me. All I know is that in general it blends well with the rubbers I put on it. And it has a 102mm handle which I love and really need.
To sum up, the Mantra M will work in tandem with your technique and give you all you need for a modern game without overdoing it. Clearly the Stiga rubbers for my game just fine.
P.S. Some Russian players I play with also have it a thumbs up. They are primarily Hurricane 3 players.
Posted By: shrisan
Date Posted: 03/06/2020 at 1:14pm
Has anyone played long with Mantra M and Mantra H. I have been playing with Mantra M (FH, BH) on Xiom Allround S since two months , really liking the combination for allround play with decent power . I was wondering if Mantra H would give me some more power without compromising the benefits of Mantra M in terms of control and spin.
------------- Never Stop Learning --------------------- Blades: Xiom Allround S, Xiom Offensive S Rubbers: Stiga Mantra M, Donic Coppa Gold
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/06/2020 at 5:41pm
Shrisan, I think the short answer is yes it will.
Posted By: shrisan
Date Posted: 03/07/2020 at 7:01am
Baal wrote:
Shrisan, I think the short answer is yes it will.
Thanks so apart from speed i can assume all other characteristics almost same between Mantra M and Mantra H ?
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/07/2020 at 9:17am
yes
Posted By: andzejgolot
Date Posted: 03/09/2020 at 8:14pm
No.
M has high throw.
H has low medium throw
I think H is slower and less bouncy
Posted By: shrisan
Date Posted: 03/10/2020 at 4:59am
andzejgolot wrote:
No.
M has high throw.
H has low medium throw
I think H is slower and less bouncy
I was thinking S is slower than M and H is faster than M
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/10/2020 at 10:47pm
shrisan wrote:
andzejgolot wrote:
No.
M has high throw.
H has low medium throw
I think H is slower and less bouncy
I was thinking S is slower than M and H is faster than M
That's how M and H feel on my blade. I never tried S. Yogi Bear wrote a review when they first came out. You can probably search for it or contact him.
Posted By: shrisan
Date Posted: 03/11/2020 at 11:14am
Baal wrote:
shrisan wrote:
andzejgolot wrote:
No.
M has high throw.
H has low medium throw
I think H is slower and less bouncy
I was thinking S is slower than M and H is faster than M
That's how M and H feel on my blade. I never tried S. Yogi Bear wrote a review when they first came out. You can probably search for it or contact him.
Thanks , which blade have you used them on. And yes i have read Yogi bear reviews and will check more with him
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 03/11/2020 at 8:19pm
Viscaria
Posted By: aerial
Date Posted: 01/29/2022 at 9:19am
i bought a sheet of mantra m 2.1 for my backhand, have been experimenting a lot with the backhand side. my base was xiom omega 7 euro and then i tried hurricane 3-50 and now mantra m. my backhand has always struggled generating a good driving pace on the ball but i could always spin relatively easy. third ball open up is spinny but then for the fifth ball i am bad at driving.
overall my first impressions of mantra m compared to o7euro and even h3-50 were underwhelming, the spin is noticably weaker when hitting with my return board in the basement but there is more speed so maybe it will work out for the best in match play and teach me to have a more open racket angle for the bh drive instead of being closed and spinning everything up